Muad'Dib 2,059 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 There's a motif I believe has been discussed about, but I just want to make sure. For example, it can be heard on the "Finale" cue. It reminds me of the Carnivore Motif from TLW. It's that the Unicorn Theme perhaps?
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 There's a motif I believe has been discussed about, but I just want to make sure. For example, it can be heard on the "Finale" cue. It reminds me of the Carnivore Motif from TLW. It's that the Unicorn Theme perhaps?That's just Snowy's Theme again - I'm telling you - its all over the score, but sounds different every time!The theme I am referring to that I think might be for The Unicorn is heard in the "Secret of the Scrolls" sample, from 0:02-0:10
Muad'Dib 2,059 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 That's just Snowy's Theme again - I'm telling you - its all over the score, but sounds different every time!The theme I am referring to that I think might be for The Unicorn is heard in the "Secret of the Scrolls" sample, from 0:02-0:10Whoa, that's very impressive! But right, I forgot... This is John Freakin' Williams we're talking about. If there's one guy who knows how to play around with a theme it's him.Does Sakharine have a theme? I think it's the only important character we don't know much about yet.
Romão 2,473 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 SPOILER WARNING!!Since Sakharine is a descendant of Red Rackham (they are even being played by the same actor), chances are their themes, even they do exist, might be connected somehow
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Merkel, I put a spoiler warning on your post. That is a plot detail that viewers - even those who have read the comics - might not want to know until they discover so while watching the film
Romão 2,473 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 So very sorry, I forget at times many posters are not familiar with the albums. Won't happen again. Again, I'm not sure what I wrote happens in the movie, but seems a very safe assumption
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 But in the comics, Sakharine is NOT a descendant of Red Rackham! That was invented for the movie.The Bird Brothers are behind everything in the comics.
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 You mean you don't have the OST already? Man, we've all been enjoying it for days. Where have you been?
fommes 165 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 That is a plot detail that viewers - even those who have read the comics - might not want to know until they discover so while watching the filmIndeed. Too late for me unfortunately.
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Shut up! I won't give in! I said I'll wait for the OST, and I'm sticking to the plan!Well now you've gone and done it - now we're on page 10!That is a plot detail that viewers - even those who have read the comics - might not want to know until they discover so while watching the filmIndeed. Too late for me unfortunately.Really? Wow, sorry about that. I edited his post the second I saw it!
Romão 2,473 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 But in the comics, Sakharine is NOT a descendant of Red Rackham! That was invented for the movie.The Bird Brothers are behind everything in the comics.They have to be related. They look exactly the same, just like Haddock looks just like Hadoque. I don't remember if this was adressed in the comics or not, but it was always my clear impression
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Who is Hadoque?And no, the comics never say that Sakharine is a descendant of Red Rackham, unless I am simply not remembering that. He's just a collector that likes the Unicorn model from what I remember reading.Maybe BloodBoal can set us straight?
Romão 2,473 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Who is Hadoque?And no, the comics never say that Sakharine is a descendant of Red Rackham, unless I am simply not remembering that. He's just a collector that likes the Unicorn model from what I remember reading.Maybe BloodBoal can set us straight?Hadoque is the Captain of the Unicorn, the ancestor of Captain Haddock. He has a portrait of him in his house, and even Tintin remarks on their likeness. Likewise, Sakharine looks exactly like Red RackhamAnd Fommes, I am trully sorry for the spoiler, really
Brónach 1,330 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Hadoque is Sir Francis the Knight of Hadoque.In the comics, Sackarine and Rckham's designs are actually different but a bit similar. But I think they'll be made to look the same in the film just like Sir Francis/Haddock!
fommes 165 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 And Fommes, I am trully sorry for the spoiler, reallyNo worries! I'll try to forget it again
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I have to say, I'm REALLY enjoying the sample of The Milanese Nightingale, perhaps the most out of all the samples. It's just so.... I dunno how to describe it - refreshingly fun?I like Williams classic adventure themes more than anyone, but that little bit is just gorgeous.
Incanus 5,890 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I have to say, I'm REALLY enjoying the sample of The Milanese Nightingale, perhaps the most out of all the samples. It's just so.... I dunno how to describe it - refreshingly fun?I like Williams classic adventure themes more than anyone, but that little bit is just gorgeous.Yeah the violin solo is so wonderfully glamorous and romatic Golden Age in style and then switches gears with French sounding accordion.
Luke Skywalker 2,385 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Hadoque is Sir Francis the Knight of Hadoque.In the comics, Sackarine and Rckham's designs are actually different but a bit similar. But I think they'll be made to look the same in the film just like Sir Francis/Haddock!French (original) version= Chevallier François de HadoqueEnglish Version=Sir Knight Francis HaddockI think.
Brónach 1,330 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Hadoque is Sir Francis the Knight of Hadoque.In the comics, Sackarine and Rckham's designs are actually different but a bit similar. But I think they'll be made to look the same in the film just like Sir Francis/Haddock!French (original) version= Chevallier François de HadoqueEnglish Version=Sir Knight Francis HaddockI think.I'm starting to get everything mixed up.
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 So here is my updated list of themes. All times come from the mp3s you can download directly from the german website (see this post)Unknown Theme 1 (Unicorn theme? Mystery theme?)03 The Secret Of The Scrolls 0:02-0:10Main Theme (possibly also referred to as Snowy's theme - unverified)07 Sir Francis and the Unicorn 0:02-0:0808 Captain Haddock Takes the Oars 0:00-0:13 [not sure about this one]11 The Flight to Bagghar 0:05-0:1415 The Captain’s Counsel 0:08-0:1917 The Return to Marlinspike Hall and Finale 0:03-0:10 and 0:18-endUnknown Theme 2 (Sir Francis' Theme? Red Rackham's Theme?)07 Sir Francis and the Unicorn 0:14-endPiratey adventure melody appearing only in 1 cue, but reprised in the end credits:09 Red Rackham’s Curse and the Treasure 0:26-end18 The Adventure Continues 0:06-endHaddock's Theme10 Capturing Mr. Silk 0:19-endThomson and Thompson's Theme(does not appear in any samples)Unknown Theme 3 (Omar's theme? Sakharine's Theme?)(does not appear in any samples)Does anybody else notice any melodies that sound like they could be a character theme?Does anybody else notice any melodies that appear in more than one sample?
Jacob 1 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 So, am I the only one who haven't (and won't) listened to the samples? What about all those people who pretended they'll wait till the soundtrack is released to listen to it in its entirety? You guys are weak!I'm still hanging in there.Semper fi, BloodBoal! Semper fi!
Brónach 1,330 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I find skipping samples after years of waiting to be too much.
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Listening to the samples now does not have a negative impact on me enjoying the OST later
Luke Skywalker 2,385 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Hadoque is Sir Francis the Knight of Hadoque.In the comics, Sackarine and Rckham's designs are actually different but a bit similar. But I think they'll be made to look the same in the film just like Sir Francis/Haddock!French (original) version= Chevallier François de HadoqueEnglish Version=Sir Knight Francis HaddockI think.I'm starting to get everything mixed up.they just translated the name, like the thompsons, and marlinspike hall.
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 ButI'm correct that in the comics, Sakharine is NOT related to Red Rackham, right?
Jilal 681 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I think "Introducing the Thompsons" and "Snowy's Chase" are joined at 4,60 of track 4.
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I think "Introducing the Thompsons" and "Snowy's Chase" are joined at 4,60 of track 4.What kind of timestamp is "4,60"?
Jilal 681 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I think "Introducing the Thompsons" and "Snowy's Chase" are joined at 4,60 of track 4.What kind of timestamp is "4,60"?Oh sorry, i meant 4 seconds and 60 hundredths.
Jilal 681 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Just open the sample of track 4 in Audacity and go to "4,60". 4 seconds, and 60 hundredths.
Jay 46,244 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Oh, I getcha. Yes, you can definitely hear where "introducing the thompsons" ends and "snowy's chase" begins in the sample from the german websiteIn fact, I think you can hear the segue begin two cues in the German website samples of:04 Introducing The Thompsons and Snowy's Chase07 Sir Francis and the Unicorn09 Red Rackham's Curse and The Treasure
Jilal 681 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Where is the cue that plays before "Old Enemies Meet" in the sample of 07 Sir Francis and the Unicorn supposed to play?
gkgyver 1,647 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Just open the sample of track 4 in Audacity and go to "4,60".4 seconds, and 60 hundredths.Go open a "Tintin: Secret Of The Unicorn Unreleased Music Resource" thread.
MSM 194 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Any themeless Williams underscore would already be fine for me!
Eraisuithon 0 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 After many years absent from this board, here i am again. What made me come back? No other reason then the excitment for what i have been listening from the samples of Tintin. It sounds fresh, in a way i think KOTCS failed to be.I apologise for any mistake since english isn't my first language.Nice to be here again! Carlos Caldeira
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