I knew about the expanded score this week... someone has more information? See the link: Jane Eyre - 75th Birthday Expanded
Is it legal??
Jane Eyre Expanded Score
Started by Jarbas, Mar 23 2011 06:07 PM
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Posted 23 March 2011 - 06:07 PM
"John Williams is capable of writing anything, from neo-Romantic to avant-garde. He also writes a better melody than anybody else writing film scores right now. There is an emotional depth to the thematic content; he doesn't just write good themes, he also comes up with amazingly complex harmonic structures to go with them." Royal S. Brown
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Posted 23 March 2011 - 06:10 PM
Nope.
EDIT - neither, it appears, are many of the CD's this retailer is peddling.
EDIT - neither, it appears, are many of the CD's this retailer is peddling.
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Posted 23 March 2011 - 06:17 PM
The 33 minute OST is the only legal release of Jane Eyre music.
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Posted 23 March 2011 - 09:09 PM
The 33 minute OST is the only legal release of Jane Eyre music.
And brilliant it is too!
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Posted 23 March 2011 - 10:37 PM
Actually, it was reissued in 1999. So there are two legal releases of Jane Eyre.The 33 minute OST is the only legal release of Jane Eyre music.
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Posted 23 March 2011 - 11:01 PM
What about the Heidi release by Label X?
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Posted 23 March 2011 - 11:02 PM
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Posted 23 March 2011 - 11:09 PM
Nice key art on that boot.
What's holding back a legit release?
What's holding back a legit release?
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Posted 23 March 2011 - 11:24 PM
I knew about the expanded score this week... someone has more information? See the link: Jane Eyre - 75th Birthday Expanded
Is it legal??
This CD has no more music than the Silva Screen release. The additional music is taken from the re-recordings by Gerhardt and Williams himself. Also, the period music is not from the actual film. A couple of the tracks come in fact from Williams and the Pops "Pops Britannia" album.
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Posted 24 March 2011 - 12:18 AM
yeah I figured that boot was padded with concert performances from Pops Brittania and not unreleased music
Is there unreleased music in this score?
Is there unreleased music in this score?
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Posted 24 March 2011 - 12:36 AM
I think the entire thing is technically unreleased since the soundtrack consists of album recordings. In terms of material not featured on the recordings we have, I don't know.
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Posted 24 March 2011 - 09:02 AM
Gerhardt recorded music from Jane Eyre!?
Yep, he recorded the "To Thornfield" scherzo--he even tacked it at a very fast tempo. You can find it on the Hollywood Memories album (a.k.a. The Prince and the Pauper and other classic film scores). It also includes a selection from The Reivers.
Is there unreleased music in this score?
Yes! Here's what I wrote in an old thread:
[The film recording] has several differences compared to the OST album re-recording. In fact, several pieces were expanded in a concert-like fashion as JW did many times:
. "To Thornfield" doesn't appear anywhere in the film, so I guess Williams composed it just for the album (or maybe it was written for a deleted scene).
. "Restoration" is a concert arrangement of the theme for the character of St. John Rivers.
. "Trio - The Meeting" is another concert arrangement which has no relation with any cue heard on the actual film recording.
. "String Quartet Festivity at Thornfield" doesn't appear in the film, but there's another string quartet piece playing. I don't know if it's from classical repertoire or if it's composed by Williams (I guess the former).
As for the score as heard in the film, there are some lovely cues that remain unreleased: the girls coming out of Lowood and going to the church, the actual first meeting between Jane and Rochester, the scene where Rochester's actual wife tries to kill Jane while she's sleeping and the cues for the scenes where Jane is at the Moors and is courted by St. John Rivers. While the OST album is an excellent and beautiful listening experience, I'd love to see the original film recording released. However, I suspect this is impossible, since it seems the original tracks are apparently forever lost or destroyed.
The stunning concert suite that Williams recorded on the Pops Britannia album was actually created from scratch. Apparently, all the printed scores were lost or destroyed, so Williams had to re-write the pieces taking it down while listening to the OST record! Strangely, he renamed the St. John Rivers' theme (aka "Restoration") as "At Lowood", while "To Thornfield" was furtherly expanded in a more rounded and developed symphonic scherzo. The most radical departure from the original score is that he eliminated completely the piano part. In the film, it's quite prominent (and in a couple of scenes, Jane actually performs the main theme onscreen on piano), while in the concert suite Williams preferred to emphasize woodwinds.
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"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 24 March 2011 - 10:46 AM
Apparently the Gerhardt Jane Eyre track can be downloaded as part of the Reader Digest album "Hollywood's Forgotten Gems".
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Posted 24 March 2011 - 03:30 PM
I knew about the expanded score this week... someone has more information? See the link: Jane Eyre - 75th Birthday Expanded
Is it legal??
This CD has no more music than the Silva Screen release. The additional music is taken from the re-recordings by Gerhardt and Williams himself. Also, the period music is not from the actual film. A couple of the tracks come in fact from Williams and the Pops "Pops Britannia" album.
Thanks for that, Miguel. I've never seen that particular boot, but I do have the extra tracks. Do you have a complete track listing for "Pops Britannia"?
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Posted 24 March 2011 - 04:59 PM
Thank you for all the information! I hope to have the official expanded release someday.
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Posted 24 March 2011 - 05:56 PM
Yep, he recorded the "To Thornfield" scherzo--he even tacked it at a very fast tempo. You can find it on the Hollywood Memories album (a.k.a. The Prince and the Pauper and other classic film scores). It also includes a selection from The Reivers.
Thanks. Never heard of that.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 03:38 PM
Yep, he recorded the "To Thornfield" scherzo--he even tacked it at a very fast tempo. You can find it on the Hollywood Memories album (a.k.a. The Prince and the Pauper and other classic film scores). It also includes a selection from The Reivers.
Thanks. Never heard of that.
It's one of the lesser-known Gerhardt/NPO albums, but it's as beautiful as any other they did. It has a very broad and diverse selection, including pieces by Delerue, North, Rozsa, Michael J.Lewis and a wonderful suite from William Walton's Henry V:
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=51920
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"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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