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"Siegfried" would like a word with you (Great example from Meistersinger, though) There's a nice talk by Leonard Bernstein on the Topic:
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Official JWFan mock ups and fan-made recordings thread!
ChrisAfonso replied to Jay's topic in General Discussion
I finally got to watch 1917 recently, and this cue/scene left a lasting impression... Mainly did it as a (notation) transcription exercise, but I also tried to create a passable mockup. -
First of all, great to see more expanded/complete(?) Star Wars scores released! Here's hoping for more, in the proper format. I have mixed feelings about this score, for various reasons... The inconsistency of Giacchino applying the Williams template (for me) is nicely demonstrated by these two contrasting passages: (1:30 - 1:38) The strings are very busy here creating a ramp-up of tension, but somehow the actual notes sound kind of random to me, and in the end it lands in exactly the same harmonic place as it started, making it feel kind of static. Compare this: (0:41 - 0:51) Here, the climbing string lines have an actual purpose and reach a new target at the end, modulating to a new key (twice!) - nicely adapting the sound of ANH's Imperial Attack escape sequence. I actually really like the climactic combination of Vader's theme and Death Star motif.
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There's hardly another JW score that has risen from the "hardly ever listen" pile to the inner circle of my all-time favorites as much as this one -- admittedly, it took finally watching the (superb) movie to provide the context needed for me to fully appreciate the diverse kinds of music (sentimental, harrowing, or over-the-top) and their place in the narrative. Where before I found the exuberance in the prominent concert setpieces hard-to-stomach clichés, their innocent naiveté now moves me to tears. Highly recommended to anyone who doesn't have it yet!
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I think it says "Record (...)". The cue is 9m2 "The T-Rex Chase". Above his finger you can make out "Ripples", the 2nd and 3rd staves contain the signature ripple-like deep woods figure, and at the start of the bottom half of the page you can see the frantic flute shrieks starting that come in when the rex appears. This is a fascinating picture - an intimate peek into the magic book!
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Official JWFan mock ups and fan-made recordings thread!
ChrisAfonso replied to Jay's topic in General Discussion
That sounds great! But the horn line seems to be a fifth too high? -
Steven Spielberg’s West Side Story (2021)
ChrisAfonso replied to mrbellamy's topic in General Discussion
Just saw the film yesterday. Originally, when it was announced, I was indifferent to the concept (and in the "sure go ahead, but why remake a classic?" crowd). Approaching the release, I got a bit more excited about a new take on the material, especially after the reviews started coming out overwhelmingly positive. But I was not prepared how much a story (and score!) I know very well for a long time, would keep me anchored in my seat gripping the armrests, and needing quite some time to collect myself afterwards. A real masterpiece with quite a number of really inspired choices for a new perspective on the material that work really well (standout: "Cool"). The sheer visceral quality of the filmmaking is amazing (and a real departure from the '61 film, as far as I remember it). I get Karol's view that the raw realism and the heightened musical drama sometimes don't completely mesh successfully (and occasionally thought so myself during the film), but IMHO that's a very minor point of concern - both the "movie" and the "musical" work so well, that it immediately pulled me back in each time I got momentarily tripped up by the contrast. -
INDEPENDENCE DAY in Full Score - David Arnold
ChrisAfonso replied to chrissiddall's topic in General Discussion
Great book, Chris! This score had a significant place in my discovery of film music, being one of the first non-Williams soundtracks I got. Awesome to have the full score to study. Already the first cursory thumb-through yields lots of interesting details to discover (alphorn, wtf :D). Reading along with the recording, there seem to be a number of podium changes that are not reflected in the score (like the horns in Firestorm, bars 25-26) - do you have any insights on that? -
Though it does go against the copypaste-principle, I can't hold this instance against him - while it starts as a direct lift, he continues the cue in a different way and leads into this glorious brass finish (and as both scores involve aliens, a case could be made for topical appropriateness)
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Thanks again Maurizio and Tim (and Sarah) for this very entertaining and enlightening interview! I was a bit confused about her comment about the E.T. horn part not having the "Bells up!" in it, as I remember it being in the Signature edition score - turns out, while it's in the "Adventures on Earth" S.E., it's missing in the otherwise identical ending in the "Flying Theme" S.E. (which was performed in Berlin)...
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Steven Spielberg’s West Side Story (2021)
ChrisAfonso replied to mrbellamy's topic in General Discussion
Very possible, but I'd throw in that this may differ a lot based on where you are - e.g. in my surroundings, the WSS film was at least as well known as SoM, if not more. -
Steven Spielberg’s West Side Story (2021)
ChrisAfonso replied to mrbellamy's topic in General Discussion
I hate to be this type of guy, but The Sound of Music isn't a Hollywood musical, but Broadway musical theatre first -
Classical music that quotes national anthems?
ChrisAfonso replied to JJA's topic in General Discussion
Ernö Dohnanyi's magnum opus "Cantus Vitae" contains quotes from the "Marseillaise" as well as the "Internationale", both fighting it out in a sort of "battle of ideologies". Thrilling piece - sadly there isn't an official recording available that I know of... Puccini quotes the (beginning of) American anthem a few times in "Madama Butterfly". -
Not at all, it has been performed here multiple times, and is one of JW's most cherished compositions, same as elsewhere. The film, like others (e.g. Downfall, The Pianist, etc.) that depict this period in a serious way, is well regarded. It's the comedic handling of the subject matter that makes us squirm uncomfortably in our seats, like buddy-Adolf in Jojo Rabbit. And the story made it into the Berlin programme booklet at least, as the final punchline of the text
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John Powell's Perfect Time For A Spring Cleaning (2021)
ChrisAfonso replied to Jay's topic in General Discussion
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Most of this has already been mentioned, but I have to second the strong recommendation for the 1999 "Glöckner" cast album. Sure, the German vocals need some getting used to, but musically it's just so far superior to the reworked '15 version of the show! I was hugely excited when the US cast album got released (finally, the musical with its original lyrics!) and then quickly deflated when listening to it and noticing that a) many great new songs from the '99 version were cut or lessened, b) the orchestra sounded a lot smaller, and c) they tried to make up for that by amping up the drum kit and piano, which (at least for me) makes it sounds even smaller and "poppier". The incredible ending to Quasimodo's "Wie aus Stein" (Made of Stone) alone makes it worthwhile, no comparison. I haven't heard the 2017 German album, but have seen the new show in Berlin - musically it's the same as the 2015 US one. A good musical in its own right (and some of the new songs are worthy additions), but the '99 version is just so much better. (on the original topic: mightily looking forward to the Legacy Collection )
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I'd argue that the answer greatly depends on how you define "elegant" - if you mean "refined and colourful, ever changing orchestration and subtle motivic integration", this would fit more with Williams's output. But if you define it as "use the simplest fitting means to achieve maximum effect" (a.k.a. the Mozart way), this fits better with the music of Goldsmith. (Or as he is reported to have answered the question of how to write good music: "You put something on the top... something on the bottom... and something in the middle.")