Pieter Boelen

Question: The Episode II score: is it really so bad? Answer: No, it's not.

Raiders March, anyone? :roll: Pretty hard question, really. There are so ridiculously many good themes. Most of them written by good not-so-old John Williams.

No, I indeed am not. I never listened to it in it's entirety, so it's either Willow or nothing. I can't really make proper judgement. I could also say that John Barry's King Kong is my favourite score from 1976 because that is the only 1976 score I have on my HD, but I never listed to it at all. :roll:

Woops. I knew something was wrong. Thanks for correcting me. I changed my list now.

1940 The Sea Hawk (Erich Wolfgang Korngold) 1958 The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (Bernard Herrmann) 1962 Mutiny on the Bounty (Bronislau Kaper) 1975 Jaws (John Williams) 1976 Nothing that I know of 1977 Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (John Williams) 1978 1. Jaws 2 (John Williams) 2. Superman: The Movie (John Williams) 1979 Star Trek I: The Motion Picture (Jerry Goldsmith) or The Great Train Robbery (Jerry Goldsmith) or 1941 (John Williams) Not sure 1980 Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (John Williams) 1981 Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (John Williams) 1982 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (John Williams) 1983 Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (John Williams) 1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (John Williams) 1985 1. King Solomon's Mines (Jerry Goldsmith) 2. Back to the Future I (Alan Silvestri) 1986 Nothing that I know of 1987 Empire of the Sun (John Williams) or The Witches of Eastwick (John Williams) Not sure 1988 Willow (James Horner) Not sure 1989 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (John Williams) 1990 Back to the Future III (Alan Silvestri) or Home Alone (John Williams) Not sure 1991 Hook (John Williams) 1992 Far and Away (John Williams) 1993 Jurassic Park (John Williams) 1994 Stargate (David Arnold) 1995 1. Cutthroat Island (John Debney) 2. First Knight (Jerry Goldsmith) 3. Waterworld (James Newton Howard) 1996 Independence Day (David Arnold) 1997 1. The Lost World: Jurassic Park (John Williams) 2. Air Force One (Jerry Goldsmith) 1998 1. Mulan (Jerry Goldsmith) 2. The Mask of Zorro (James Horner) 3. Godzilla (David Arnold) 1999 1. Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (John Williams) 2. The Mummy (Jerry Goldsmith) 3. The 13th Warrior (Jerry Goldsmith) 2000 1. Dinosaur (James Newton Howard) 2. The Patriot (John Williams) 2001 1. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (John Williams) 2. The Mummy Returns (Alan Silvestri) 3. Atlantis: The Lost Empire (James Newton Howard) 2002 1. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (John Williams) 2. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (John Williams) 3. The Scorpion King (John Debney) 2003 1. Sinbad, Legend of the Seven Seas (Harry Gregson-Williams) 2. Children of Dune (Brian Tyler) 3. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Howard Shore) 2004 1. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (John Williams) 2. Hidalgo (James Newton Howard) 3. Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (Edward Shearmur) 2005 1. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (John Williams) 2. Kingdom of Heaven (Harry gregson-Williams) 3. King Kong (James Newton Howard)

It used to be available for download from a site, but it was removed from there a long time ago, because of space reasons. For my own enjoyment, I have compiled a soundtrack from this game. I tried to order the tracks in such a way that it more-or-less tells the story of the game. The game is an open-ended RPG game, so the tracks are basically underscoring for walking around the towns/jungles, fighting with enemies and sea battles. Naturally, this doesn't make for very Williams-like music. Many of the tracks might not be as piratey as you'd expect, but I still like them and there are some tracks that either are really nice or contain really nice parts. A lot of the tracks aren't actually used in the English version of the game and I took several tracks from Sea Dogs as well. Sea Dogs is a game PotC is a "sequel" to and which is said to have better music. I can upload this soundtrack for you somewhere. I will PM you the link. If anybody else is wanting to give it a listen, PM me as well. I am interested in what you people think.Edit: I have uploaded this soundtrack, so if you would like to give it a listen, PM me for a link. 1 - Opening Theme Sung in Russian. Not used in the English version of the game 2 - Oxbay Harbour From Sea Dogs 3 - The French are Coming! From Sea Dogs 4 - Escaping the Attackers From Sea Dogs 5 - Sea Battle near Redmond 6 - Redmond Port Not used in the English version of the game 7 - Robert Christopher Silehard 8 - Sailing the Archipelago Not used in the English version of the game 9 - Douwesen Island 10 - The Dutch Shipyard 11 - Encounter with the Mefisto 12 - Saving the Animists' Captives Not used in the English version of the game 13 - Isla Muelle 14 - The Local Pub 15 - The Spanish Governor 16 - Sea Battle with the Portuguese From Sea Dogs 17 - Caribbean Hurricane 18 - Walk to the Smugglers' Lair 19 - Fighting for a New Ship Not used in the English version of the game 20 - The Incan Treasure Not used in the English version of the game 21 - Sinking the Black Pearl 22 - End Credits Bonus: Yo, Ho! Yo, Ho! A Pirate's Life For Me! Not used in the English version of the game Bonus: Yo, Ho! Yo, Ho! A Pirate's Life For Me! (Instrumental) Not used in the English version of the game

Thanks a lot all. Especially thanks a lot Vosk for taking the time to post your tracklist!

I make a point in collecting all piratey/seafaring music that I can possibly find. I have the following scores in my collection: - Captain Blood (Erich Wolfgang Korngold) Pretty good, but the sound quality is CRAP. - Cutthroat Island (John Debney) Absolutely awesome; no doubt about that. The 2-CD edition contains an inordinate amount of great music. Excellent sound quality as well. - Hook (John Williams) Absolutely great as well, although some parts are not entirely piratey/seafaring. - Jaws (John Williams) Lots of seafaring music. Plus a great score too. - Jaws 2 (John Williams) Good one as well with more salty music. - Muppet Treasure Island (Hans Zimmer) Probably one of the nicer scores by Hans Zimmer. The main theme actually sounds properly piratey. And I believe this is actually the first and only time I have heard actual trumpets in a Zimmer score. The songs are pretty funny. - Mutiny on the Bounty (Bronislau Kaper) Another great score. You can almost hear the salt in the music. - Peter Pan (James Newton Howard) A bit piratey at times, but not very much. Fun, but not excellent. - Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (Klaus Badelt) I used to like this score quite a lot, but after hearing Cutthroat Island, my interest dropped... completely. It's not bad, according to me. It's fun, but faaaaar from great. - Pirates of the Caribbean: PC Game (Yuri Poteenko) I might actually prefer this over the movie soundtrack. This music has got nothing to do with the movie at all, but it's very good nonetheless. Nice sailory tunes, as well as nice battle music. It was written for a PC game, so there is no thematic development. I haven't even been able to find true themes at all. - Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (Harry Gregson-Williams) Great fun, absolutely excellent. Lots of good action music, good thematic development. Great score. - The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (Bernard Herrmann) I haven't listened to this in full, but it sounded pretty good. Very nice main theme. - The Golden Voyage of Sinbad (Miklós Rózsa) The sound quality is not very good, but the music is (although I haven't listened to this in full either). - The Buccanneer (Elmer Bernstein) I didn't listen to this one in full either, but what I heard didn't sound very piratey really. - The Goonies (Dave Grusin) Contains some more-or-less piratey music at points. Nice score. - The Plymouth Adventure (Miklós Rózsa) Apart from containing themes based on psalms, this also contains pretty good seafaring music in parts. - The Sea Hawk (Erich Wolfgang Korngold) The score that started it all. Although I like Cutthroat Island better, this one is certainly excellent. - The Sea Wolf (Erich Wolfgang Korngold) Didn't sound very seafaring or piratey to me. - Treasure Planet (James Newton Howard) Apart from including moderny influences like electric guitars, this score also contains a fair amount of good piratey music. Skip the songs though.

Hello all, I was wondering what sound effect free expanded or complete scores exist from the Star Trek movies. I'm trying to get some, but I don't know for which version I should look. :?

I have found a file on the internet that is said to be Alan Silvestri's rejected theme for Pirates of the Caribbean. If you'd like to hear it, drop me a PM. It sounds pretty interesting, though not exactly piratey. I wonder if this actually IS Alan Silvestri's rejected theme or if this is a fake... :?

The opening of Cutthroat Island and the entire Battle and finale. Also the battle scene in Mulan and the finale.

Of course I indeed AM being very premature. I admit that. I was just so utterly disappointed with Doyle's Goblet of Fire that I was really hoping that someone I know to be good would do OotP. GoF is OK, but the more times I see the film, the more I find that it is most sincerely lacking a John Williams score. I really like Harry Potter (the books more than the films, but still...) and I really want the best for the Harry Potter films. Maybe Hooper actually WILL do a good job; I really hope so. I am looking forward to being pleasantly surprised, but I don't dare hope for it. My hopes have been thwarted once with GoF; there's no reason to assume it won't happen again... BTW: I really don't like the PoA film either. I like the PoA book best, but the film had too many parts missing and had to many "What the heck???"-moments. The absolutely awesome music by John Williams saved the film; otherwise it would've been a rather bad failure in my book. I liked GoF much better. But contrary to PoA, here the reasonably good film makes up for the rather bland score. I still consider CoS and PS better films. These both were good films that really felt like the books were coming to live right in front of your very eyes. PS had the better score, though the themes of CoS were excellent as well. And I really liked the humour in CoS: "Follow the butterflies" and "Can we panic now" are two of my favourite jokes.

According to Mugglenet.com: Nicholas Hooper to score OOTP Nicholas Hooper, one of the UK's leading media composers, is set to compose the soundtrack for the Order of the Phoenix movie. In 2004, he won the Best Original Score BAFTA for The Young Visitors and was nominated several other times for the prestigious awards. My comments: WOW! This is SO IMPRESSIVE! They went from Mr. The Very Best (John Williams) to Mr. Not So Good (Patrick Doyle) to Mr. Just Plain Nobody! They really don't give a damn about who composes the music, do they? :cry: * Is VERY disappointed indeed *

NICE! I have a couple of questions about the complete and extended editions of the Star Wars Prequel music: So far I have not managed any proper edits on this, but one day I'll make a good version. Luckily I managed to download some reasonably good versions from the internet. Based on those I have a couple of questions: 1) Is Yoda's theme from RotS available anywhere? I want Yoda's theme in my RotS extended edition; otherwise RotS will be the only soundtrack without it (apart from ANH, but Yoda isn't IS ANH, so that doesn't matter). 2) Is the subdued version of Lament that is played when Anakin chokes Padmé available anywhere? 3) There is some trade federation action music available and all versions I downloaded place this piece of music during the Battle of Naboo. However, according to your list, it's supposed to be during the Droid Invasion. It is supposed to be in the Droid Invasion, isn't it? I admit I do like it very much in the Droid Invasion. 4) The action music in OST track 11 "Anakin Defeats Sebulba" actually IS supposed to accompany the podracing sequence, isn't it? But why do people keep putting it in "The Gungans Retreat"? What music IS supposed to accompany "The Gungans Retreat"?

Does anyone know if and when the last part of the Phantom Menace editing information will be done? Just wondering...

I most certainly am not happy about it. Memoirs of a Geisha can be ridiculously good, I still would've preferred a Williams score for Goblet of Fire. But that is because I very much like Harry Potter, so naturally I would want the best possible score for a Harry Potter film. And Doyle's score most certainly is not, in any way, the "best possible score for a Harry Potter film".

This is great! I am downloading straight away! I listened to your previous prequel suite again a few days ago and really liked it. Very good job. I am very much looking forward to your new version. I downloaded Qui-Gon Jinn's theme from your site quite some time ago, but haven't yet commented on it, so I will now: Very impressive indeed! If I finally manage to edit a proper complete version of TPM, I will add all concert suites to it, including yours. Yours will probably be the best edited track on my complete version; I am no great music editor myself, so the rest of the tracks won't be quite as good. I usually make a small cover picture for all music I have on my HD, so when I downloaded your first suite, I also made some cover pictures for it. In case you'd like to see them: Prequel Trilogy cover Original Trilogy cover Please note: I didn't actually make the pictures themselves; I just added the text. I found the pictures somewhere on the internet. If you like, I can send larger versions to you. I have them in MS Word format, so you can easily edit them, change the text or add some more text.

So there is nobody wanting to help me? Shame. 8O You are right, Stefancos. The 3 CD release contains plenty of music to keep most people happy. I just wished those two parts were on there as well.

Is there anybody here who likes the choral Force theme renditions in the final duel in RotS? I personally do like them pretty much. Plus I agree with all the other ones posted above.

Hello all, When I watched the movie to Cutthroat Island some time ago, I noticed that there is some music in the movie that isn't on Prometeus Records' complete edition. "Dawg's Plan" in track 16 "First Kiss/Love Scene/Dawg's Plan" features choir in the movie, but not on the soundtrack. Also: Track 23 "Discovery of the Cave" is greatly extended in the movie with some quite nice music. I have found a DVD rip of those tracks and they are very low on SFX. I would like to make a truly complete edition of the soundtrack by adding those two parts into the official complete edition. However, I suck at music editing, so I would need some help. If anybody is wanting to give me a hand, drop me a PM or send me an e-mail at pieter_boelen@planet.nl .

Scores that are certainly as good: Cutthroat Island (John Debney) First Knight (Jerry Goldsmith) Independence Day (David Arnold) Other scores that I personally consider to be just as good: Kingdom of Heaven (Harry Gregson-Williams) Mulan (Jerry Goldsmith) Mutiny on the Bounty (Bronislau Kaper) Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (Harry Gregson-Williams) The Mummy Returns (Alan Silvestri) Up for debate: Atlantis: The Lost Empire (James Newton Howard)

I get the point. I suppose there's no need for me trying then. My music editing skills are truly horrid.

The theme is certainly good. Only when I heard it there the first time, it made me jump, because I was expecting it to go like the OST version. I'm going to try to edit the OST End Credits to be after your Finale if I can.

Thanks for the heads up on this one. I got it and am very impressed with it. Great job! A lot of music that I was terribly missing from the OST is there, especially including the actual finale. Thank you ever so much! Just one little question: On the version I have, the End Credits contain the Brittish fanfare (from the finale) between Willy's theme and the final Indy march. Did you put it there or do I have a slightly different version than the one you made? I thought maybe it was like that on the DVD, but I checked it yesterday and it wasn't there.

It looks like it's probably a compilation based on the OST and the bootleg. I made something very similar for myself as well.