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Tritones are part of the classical musical language since mit 19th century. If something does not qualfy as a motif or theme because it is based on or containing a tritone, then you could claim the same about anything containing a major or minor chord. Or another interval. The argument does not hold. A tritone is just an interval, an musical building block for Motivs an Themes, and has been used by many other composers. The crystal motif is constructed from this interval, forming a larger entity. in contrast, Horners danger Motiv, that he stole from the beginning of Rachmaninovs 1st symphony, is constructed from minor seconds.
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Ah, right, in English it is called a „b“. So „ f b f“ or „f c flat f“. A Tritone is defined by 3 whole tones. So there is no major or minor tritone, just a tritone, the „diabolus in Musica“. I do not hear this, at least not prominently, in the other examples you mentioned (sorry, have no score for those). I think the „call of the crystal“ theme consists of 2 parts: first the mentioned rising tritone motiv, second the slithering clarinet phrase that follows. He uses these components in a very thematic fashion in the score.
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Great interview! I was surprised to learn that not only they made a new recording of Long Goodbye, but JW played himself! All the details in the interview IMO devaluates the „autopilot“ meme that was as usual thrown around. One can say to not like the soundtrack, to find it not different enough, but obviously he spent a lot of time and work into crafting the best possible soundtrack. As often, the genius lays in the detail and emerges only with time and repeated listening. Same with TinTin and BFG IMO. People said the same about Beethovens 8th and the Brahms symphonies. History has proven them wrong.
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The Next Matessino/Williams/Spielberg Expansion
Gurkensalat replied to crumbs's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
Yes, it should. Of all those soundtrack I would be interested most in a expanded/complete Tintin.- 182 replies
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Speaking of thematic connections, people have remarked that Rose Theme resembles Anakins Theme. In fact the first 3 notes are the same. But I find the similarity to the force theme much more obvious: the first 6 notes are identical except that the 2nd note is shorter and it is in major instead of minor. Coincidence?
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The Last Jedi THE LAST JEDI - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album
Gurkensalat replied to Jay's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
I can´t tell if this is irony, but if not: Do you know all states in Germany like Bavaria or Hessen? All Kantons of Switzerland like Aargau or Schwyz? This would be the equivalent to the states of the USA. -
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - La-La Land MUSIC Discussion
Gurkensalat replied to Jay's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
Mine hopefully too, but until then … CD! -
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - La-La Land MUSIC Discussion
Gurkensalat replied to Jay's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
For the car. -
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - La-La Land MUSIC Discussion
Gurkensalat replied to Jay's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
If you use a 800 MB CD R it even fits with the Dialogue and some source material! -
Monsignor is VERY Good, IMO
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Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 2017 2-CD La-la Land edition!
Gurkensalat replied to Jay's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
Well , I never had a problem playing those over 80 min discs, even to the last track. Where do you have this time information, it is new to me? -
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 2017 2-CD La-la Land edition!
Gurkensalat replied to Jay's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
There are several CDs with longer running time than 80 min, e.g. "La Spagna" from BIS. So technically, there is no reason to move tracks. -
As far as I´m aware, that was the original plan, but somebody who looked up the original handwritten score found out that every cue has been written by Williams handwriting, and there are citations that Williams sent in new music still during recording. So I think that Ross only conducted and made the usual necessary changes during that process.
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JW's discovery kit for a classical music lover?
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JW's discovery kit for a classical music lover?
Gurkensalat replied to Bespin's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
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It is not unusual for movie titles to be translated and/or changed in Germany. Most people watch the movies German dubbed. Sometimes the title are completely changed. "Once upon a time in the west" changed to "Spiel mir das Lied vom Tod" ("Play the song of death to me"). Captain america 2 was "The Return of the first Avenger" in Germany which is especially funny since they changed an English title to another English title!
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And Hedwigs Theme for Harry Potter
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War Horse is not somehow worse than Tintin, but if I had to chose, I would take the latter for its higher repeat value.
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I don´t understand the aversion in this thread. Tintin is a brilliant score which showcases the orchestration palette and intrinsic motiv construction of John Williams at his best. The main titles track alone with its combination of element of totally disparate musical styles is genius. The only thing missing is a knockout longdrawn theme, but nothing is perfect and it would probably not fit the style of the film. Tintin is one of the few Soundtracks i can listen over and over and never get tired of it; always discovering new small interesting details.
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What Is The Last Film You Watched? (Older Films)
Gurkensalat replied to Mr. Breathmask's topic in General Discussion
How to train your dragon 2 in 3D. Surprisingly good movie even for adults, has everything: action, humor, drama, ethical themes. Even better than part 1.