Delorean90 42 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 I'm curious as to what exactly puts Zimmer over Williams and Goldsmith in your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 3. Nobou UematsuIs he a film score composer?1) John Williams2) Bernard Herrman3) Jerry Goldsmith4) Erich Korngold5) Danny Elfman6) Miklos Rosza7) Michael Kamen8) Eric Rogers9) Maurice Jarre10) Franz Waxmanscores:1) The Empire Strikes Back2) ET3) Raiders of the Lost Ark4) Star Wars5) Jaws6) Psycho7) Vertigo8) North by Northwest9) The Witches of Eastwick10) Superman: The Movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 3. Nobou UematsuIs he a film score composer?Heh, I was wondering when someone was going to pick up on that. Can't believe it took two pages. Five points, James. Techically I suppose not. There's Advent Children (which has only a few really good cues and is overall a real disappointment), but other than that it's just games. But that's how high a regard I have for him and there was no way I was leaving him off. I'm sure those that have Giacchino on their lists are thinking more of his non-film work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 I'm curious as to what exactly puts Zimmer over Williams and Goldsmith in your opinion.I bet you are. And it's not in 100% order, that would just be ridiculous. I listen to music for fun, not to rate them in the order of greatness. I like what I like, I don't feel the need to rank them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 My son has a few of the Final Fantasy CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 3. Signs (James Newton Howard)I'm going to see Signs soon, and I'm really looking forward to both the movie and the score. I'm glad that most people here consider it among the best of JNH.Sings is a magnificent score and an excellent film, Shyamalans best IMO. The acting, writing, it's all really well-made. The score is perfectly constructed, I love the scene where Phoenix's character is talking to the army officer, the music Howard put up for that scene matches the tone of his voice flawlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Heh, I was wondering when someone was going to pick up on that. Can't believe it took two pages. Five points, James. Hehehe. I got my points! So he did the Final Fantasy game scores then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Yep, up through IX on his own, then with co-composers on X-XII, though with lesser and lesser involvement. I don't know if he's working on XIII at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I didn't think he had any involvement with XII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I think he wrote the main theme, and nothing else. I've never played any game later than IX since I don't own a PS2 (and XI was MMO and I don't bother with those) so I'm not familiar with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I am the one who also picked Uematsu. Tough he doesn't compose to film (or very seldom), his scores for video games (FF series in particular) are classics. His FFVII is good enough (a masterpiece IMO), I keep enjoying it despite the horrendous sound quality (it was performed on some old midi-like synth). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 leave those stupid video games scores out of the discussion, they are insignificant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 But of course they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 leave those stupid video games scores out of the discussion, they are insignificant.Do not judge that which you don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 They are not film scores. That much is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 True, but they don't get much respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Oh, they have their following amongst gamers. I don't know any FFers who don't know and love Uematsu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Nice list, Rob, it's the only I might agree with so far.Me too. It's somewhat sad to see how many people here are missing some of the GREATEST film music ever written (i.e. written prior to 1977). Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that in a snobbish way... but it's kind of pitiful that in a John Williams board a lot of people doesn't seem to enjoy the music of Korngold, Waxman, Rozsa, Newman, Herrmann and North. Try to put aside some of your Zimmers, Powells and Howards sometimes... and listen to some of the good old great composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Be careful Lord Maurizio or you'll end up offending a bunch of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Try to put aside some of your Zimmers, Powells and Howards sometimes... and listen to some of the good old great composers.Why is Howard included with those two?Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted October 23, 2007 Author Share Posted October 23, 2007 Try to put aside some of your Zimmers, Powells and Howards sometimes... and listen to some of the good old great composers. just because a composer is new, it doesn't mean they're bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 leave those stupid video games scores out of the discussion, they are insignificant.The sole FFVII has more great themes than JW has composed for let's say last 15 years. Since Uematsu writes also for the movies (though very seldom) he can be called film composer. For me a score is a score - whether it's for the TV, game or a movie it doesn't matter, besides if a game has in-game movies (and FF series have), then scoring them makes the composer's name elligible to appear in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 just because a composer is new, it doesn't mean they're bad!Of course I'm not saying that. What I meant is that it's a bit sad many people seem to avoid or ignore some of the finest film music composers. If you like John Williams, it's very likely you'll end up enjoying composers like Steiner, Korngold, Waxman, Herrmann, Newman and Rozsa. There's always the matter of subjectivity in these kind of polls and lists, so you can put whoever you want in your list and I'll leave that to you.Try to put aside some of your Zimmers, Powells and Howards sometimes... and listen to some of the good old great composers.Why is Howard included with those two?That wasn't meant to bash any of those composers. I'm not the greatest fan of neither of them, but there's nothing wrong if you like them. I just find a bit strange that a lot of people here seem so involved and engaged by current film music, where there's a treasure of amazing film scores and composers from the past that need to be more carefully listened and enjoyed. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Different strokes for different folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Me too. It's somewhat sad to see how many people here are missing some of the GREATEST film music ever written (i.e. written prior to 1977). Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that in a snobbish way... but it's kind of pitiful that in a John Williams board a lot of people doesn't seem to enjoy the music of Korngold, Waxman, Rozsa, Newman, Herrmann and North. Personally I find a lot of the older film music not quite as engaging as more modern music written since 1975 or so. With several of the old scores I like parts, some parts even very much, but not the whole thing so much. Examples would be Erich Wolfgang Korngold's pirate scores: I like the main themes, but I find the rest of the music to be less interesting than, for example, Cutthroat Island. Then I like the Main Title to How the West Was Won a lot, but I haven't heard anything quite as interesting in the rest of the score. This, of course, has to do with the style of the music and the style of the films in those days. Usually I find myself liking the main theme and the first tracks, but then I tend to somewhat lose interest. I wonder if that has to do with the fact that most of these films are hardly ever shown on television, nor are they readily available on DVD, so I have trouble understanding what film they were written for. I like to see the films music is written for, even if the film is not very good, just to get a better understanding for the music. But with these old scores I am virtually unable to do that, which is unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Nice list, Rob, it's the only I might agree with so far.Me too. It's somewhat sad to see how many people here are missing some of the GREATEST film music ever written (i.e. written prior to 1977). Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that in a snobbish way... but it's kind of pitiful that in a John Williams board a lot of people doesn't seem to enjoy the music of Korngold, Waxman, Rozsa, Newman, Herrmann and North. I see a lot of Korngold, Rozsa and Herrmann in peoples lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Merkel wrote that before most of the lists that contained composers before 1990 started appearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Merkel wrote that before most of the lists that contained composers before 1990 started appearing.I see. In that case he did a good job in getting people back on track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookFanRH 0 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 My Favorite Film Composers + Scores Not listed in a Definite Fav # 1-10 but a definite Top Favorites.Favorite Film composers:1. John Williams2. Hans Zimmer3. KAORU WADA4. Eliot Goldenthal5. Alan Silvestri6. David Arnold7. Klaus Badelt 8. Howard Shore9. Brad Fiedel 10. Jerry GoldsmithFavorite Film Scores:1. Star Wars (esp Revenge Of the Sith), Hook, Jaws, Jurassic Park (John Williams)2. Pirates of the Caribbean 2+3: (Hans Zimmer3 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (Klaus Badelt )4 Batman Forever (Eliot Goldenthal)5. Predator (Alan Silvestri)6. Inuyasha (Anime) - (KAORU WADA)7. Die Another Day, Independence Day (David Arnold)8. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Howard Shore)9. The Terminator (Brad Fiedel)10. The Mummy (Jerry Goldsmith) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Nice sig, man.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Try disturbingly huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 What was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 Try disturbingly huge.What did it say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Try disturbingly huge.What did it say?Nothing, it was a big, ENORMOUS picture from Hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 3. KAORU WADAWho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Gee John you need to brush up on your anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Too wierd for me. I can handle Japanese video games just fine, anime is a whole other universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 You're not missing much. Most of it is bad, with a few brilliant works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Kaoru Wada is great though. He was a disciple of Akira Ifukube, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I like Akira Yamaoka. He did the Silent Hill game scores. Some of it is really good, but most of it is sounds and freaky noises, which fits the game perfectly but doesn't do well on its own. The theme and Promise are really good.I don't know why he didn't do the movie, considering the score was just ripped from the game, especially Promise, that was used throughout. It's even more puzzling that Yamaoka produced the movie and yet did not do the score.Norihiko Hibino is really good too, he did the first Metal Gear Solid, and has been collaborating with Harry Gregson-Williams on 2 and 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookFanRH 0 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Nice sig, man.Ray BarnsburyWhy Thanks:)Sorry Every One I did not Realize it until i saved it that it was THAT HUGE. I know there is online a smaller pic of that image (which is the one i wanted) for my sig. I'll keep serching for it and when i do find it Victory will be mine. I'm glad some of you guys like Kaoru Wada/Anime For those who haven't heard his work or like Anime, do so - you may like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Kaoru Wada is great though. He was a disciple of Akira Ifukube, after all.Really? Hmm I may have to give him a listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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