Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 So, recently i acquired soundtrack to 'The Queen' by Alexandre Desplat and I had a question about Track 3, "The People's Princess I" and track 14, "The People's Princess II". Now, both of these tracks have the length of 4:08 and i can't notice any difference. Does anyone know any difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I am fairly sure there is no difference between the two tracks. I have no idea why they would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Perhaps he's just following Williams' example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Carl Orff did it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Is there are difference between "The Patriot" and "The Patriot Reprise"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No, nor is there a difference between Angela's Ashes and the Reprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What a waste of space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Not really. I don't think it's put in instead ofsomething else, mroe like it's added on, for esthetic reasons that only John Williams truely seems to appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I guess...After all, JW knows all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 I guess...After all, JW knows all.even the meaning of life!? but of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Is there are difference between "The Patriot" and "The Patriot Reprise"?Yes, the latter features an extended drum/fife coda. That makes it my preferred version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Ray explaining the difference between both Patriot cues seems to be one of the board's most recurring situations (out of the many). It almost beats Marc's Jurassic Park story or Joe making a coarse sex joke out of nowhere.There's no place like home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I'm sorry, but I've never bought the "listening experience" argument for why a track appears twice. It seems more an act of laziness than anything else, even if there are minor alterations. Something like Across the Stars isn't quite as bad as The Patriot and The Patriot Reprise, since the end credits suite on AOTC is quite long and has a very different ending, but I still don't like it. Give me fresh music!Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I'd say Across the Stars is even worse. Because it takes (more or less) the climax of the whole work and puts it at the beginning. No wonder people hardly listen to full albums anymore, when it can only go downhill after the highlights at the beginning of the CD.Carl Orff did it first.Not really, since O Fortuna usually gets *recorded* (or performed, for that matter) twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Ray explaining the difference between both Patriot cues seems to be one of the board's most recurring situations (out of the many). It almost beats Marc's Jurassic Park story or Joe making a coarse sex joke out of nowhere.There's no place like home.Hey, I like to help out where I can...it's not my fault if people can't listen to the damn thing themselves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I'm not sure I can hear a difference. Can you explain it again, Ray?Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Smart-ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I'd say Across the Stars is even worse. Because it takes (more or less) the climax of the whole work and puts it at the beginning. No wonder people hardly listen to full albums anymore, when it can only go downhill after the highlights at the beginning of the CD.Carl Orff did it first.Not really, since O Fortuna usually gets *recorded* (or performed, for that matter) twice.But I bet he didn't hand-write it twice! He probably just told the orchestra to turn back to page 3, or made his poor copyist do it! If he'd had Sibelius or Finale that would have been a classic cut-and-paste job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 What a waste of space!You'd know a lot about that, wouldn't you? Mother says "Hi". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Ray explaining the difference between both Patriot cues seems to be one of the board's most recurring situations (out of the many). It almost beats Marc's Jurassic Park story or Joe making a coarse sex joke out of nowhere.There's no place like home.You're making me look like an old git telling the same story about "the old days" over and over again.Whippersnapper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Can I help it if the Internet doesn't reflect the niceness and warmth of my post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Ray explaining the difference between both Patriot cues seems to be one of the board's most recurring situations (out of the many). It almost beats Marc's Jurassic Park story or Joe making a coarse sex joke out of nowhere.There's no place like home.Hey, I like to help out where I can...it's not my fault if people can't listen to the damn thing themselves! I like both. No, I love both. The Patriot, is one of Williams finest moments. You, disagree, moron? well eff you dipgarbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I agree that the concert work is one of his finest. The score as a whole doesn't grab me the way those 7 wonderful minutes do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 That's a good way of summing it up, Ray. The concert suite is very good, as is the piece for Ann and Gabriel (the love theme). But much of the actual underscore for the film is pretty standard stuff. Although I must admit, Tavington's Trap has some furious, low-tone action writing the likes of which Williams rarely goes for nowadays.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I think the concert suites reprises work very well in Angela's Ashes and Seven Years in Tibet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Marc's Jurassic Park story...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 No, I'm not going to tell it now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Oh my God, what have I done?I should have used Morlock's repetitive praise for the calypso beats in the raptor scene of the Lost World for a better example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I should have used Morlock's repetitive praise for the calypso beats in the raptor scene of the Lost World for a better example. Wow, I wasn't aware my opinions were that well known! Morlock- who hasn't talked about it all that much, and in general, quotes Jeff Bond about The Lost World calypso stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Are you kidding? I have yet to read a post by you about The Lost World that doesn't feature the word "calypso" - and "raptors" very near to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I think the concert suites reprises work very well in Angela's Ashes and Seven Years in Tibet.It only works when they run out of score cues to put on the c.d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Well, it is one of the most delightful thing about the project. So sue me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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