Trent B 337 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 For file 4B60538F_F540F6676BBCB39E there should be a small statement of the Separatist' theme (with the timpani roll) around the 28 second mark. You can clearly hear it was edited out but with some good editing it can be possible to replicate it with no sfx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,423 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'm slowly but surely continuing to work on the AOTC editing guide. I'm currently stuck on "The Meeting With Fett". There's a piece towards the end of the cue that I have clean from my previous edit (with DVD rips) and I can't for the life of me remember where I found it. It's an important piece too...Try TFU2 - 134.oggorBattlefront 2 - chase_coruscant_2Joe had to do a mockup to get a clean ending as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Stuck on yet another cue, "The Spare Canister Caper". I know that one of the two TFU games had the previously unreleased material for when Obi-Wan is flying over head and seeing all the Federation battleships landed. However, I'm not finding it on the lists. Can someone help me out here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 File 166.ogg of the TFU2 rip - it also contains a portion of TPM's Tentacles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Ah yes thanks ggtuck! Shit it was on my list after all and I just breezed right by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Have you found the missing Separatist statement of Meeting With Fett yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 No but with some clever editing it'll be possible to replicate it. I have included instructions on how to replicate it in the guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Figured as much. Ah well, as you said, the timp roll can be gotten off the DVD pretty cleanly, and it's easy enough to create a convincing version out of the OST Arrival at Tatooine separatist theme and the Zam is Eliminated one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Please dont get angry...but can someone explain why is better to do a piece of music editorially instead of having a DVDrip in a fan edit that contains other DVD rips?I mean i understand the use of DVDrips but creating a completely 'fake' cue is creating your little piece of UE material into your complete edit... ruining the essence of doing a complete edit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,423 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 To get rid of sound effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 i got that...but creating a piece out of similar pieces...i wouldnt include it in the set. its redundant music isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It's no different IMO to including mockups. If it's in the sheet music, then if we can't find it in the files, we will either mock it up using VSTi or recreate the piece using similar-sounding bits. This specific bit sounds believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,423 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 We're talking a few seconds here Luke, and we're talking music that is intended to be there to bridge two other musical ideas together. The alternative is to fade out, have silence then fade back in. Or keep the sound effects. or this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Or mock it up using VSTi (which isn't always the best option, BTW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Its lying to yourself.If there are sfx in the set already, a few seconds more dont matter.I think including a mockup is better than an edit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,382 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Ahem, if the notes are same music, and sound barely different, it is no different than in Man Against Beast with the same note repeated for 6 seconds, and is no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,423 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 i thought it was the entire sepparatist motif we were talking about.Anyway.. to each his own...PD: GL had a great idea of not letting Williams re-record the Main titles for AOTC and ROTS, i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Or they planned on using the recording from TPM anyways - it's been reported that Lucas and Williams agreed after TPM was recorded to track music from TPM into the following movies. Obviously, Williams felt the title didn't need re-recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,382 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 PD: GL had a great idea of not letting Williams re-record the Main titles for AOTC and ROTS, i suppose. Great Idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 irony...Or they planned on using the recording from TPM anyways - it's been reported that Lucas and Williams agreed after TPM was recorded to track music from TPM into the following movies. Obviously, Williams felt the title didn't need re-recording.Yeah so williams just did feel to end the tradition of making one different orchestration for every SW film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,423 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It's unfounded speculation that it was Williams who decided to not re-record the main titles for AOTC and ROTS. It could have been Lucas or any of the Producers on the film's decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It's unfounded speculation that it was Williams who decided to not re-record the main titles for AOTC and ROTS. It could have been Lucas or any of the Producers on the film's decision.Exactly. All I said was that Lucas and Williams had agreed to use music from TPM in its sequels. AOTC used a lot of TPM's music, especially in the latter half of the film. ROTS depended less on tracking than AOTC did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I think Williams was forced. or he agreed in this humble way. and did it because he know music was going to be tracked anyways.Heck he even composed a finishing fanfare for ROTS. The man wanted to do a variation for each film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Regarding the piece from "The Meeting With Fett", as I said for the instructions on how to basically replicate it you will NOT be able to tell the difference between the two. You have to use a tiny bit from a section from "The Library Scene", the timpani roll from the DVD (which is completely clean) then a bit from "Obi-Wan Eavesdropping". As I said there will be NO difference in telling the two pieces apart.As Jason said it was necessary to have this piece in order to bridge the missing gap. The edit in the TOR material is jarring and horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Regarding the piece from "The Meeting With Fett", as I said for the instructions on how to basically replicate it you will NOT be able to tell the difference between the two. You have to use a tiny bit from a section from "The Library Scene", the timpani roll from the DVD then a bit from "Obi-Wan Eavesdropping". As I said there will be NO difference in telling the two pieces apart.As Jason said it was necessary to have this piece in order to bridge the missing gap. The edit in the TOR material is jarring and horrible.I personally used a piece from Zam is Eliminated instead of The Library Scene. Same effect, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 The material from "Zam Is Eliminated" sounds different from the orchestration point of view. The piece from "The Library Scene" that I listed in the editing guide sounds nearly identical to the one used in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 As a general FYI, I'll have the editing guide for AOTC finished tomorrow. I was gonna try and finish it tonight but I'm getting pretty tired (after 12am here). I just finished up "The Senate Scene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 My new theory is that Williams scored the clones reveal with the Trade Federation March because he didn't understand who the fuck was who in this movie. He probably thought the people on Kamino were the Trade Federation guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Well, he wasn't the only one then. I too got headache the first time I saw the film.Take also into account that the rough cut Williams was provided was likely just actors in front of green-screen and a few animatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 The cost of modern movie-making...well, that plus an incongruent "plot."I am genuinely impressed with you guys ehobsort through all the ptewurl message. I really appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,423 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Could somebody with the sheet music for AOTC tell me how close have I got this to being right?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2zcpsU2JFgI'm sorry I haven't had a chance to reply to you about this. I was at work when you posted it and I keep forgetting when I am at home. I should get to take a listen tonight or tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted account 108 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Is there some sort of guide to the files in TOR? Like a table of contents or something? I don't mean an editing guide - Trent's doing those and they are awesome. I mean like an index. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,423 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I don't think anyone has made that, no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted account 108 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Wow, so you guys are just plonking through each track figuring out if it's from one of the film scores or written specifically for the game? Impressive...EDIT: I just found this page, which seems to have what I was asking about...http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19075&st=240&p=775489entry775489 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Alright everyone...the long nearly week torture is over. Here is the editing guide for Attack Of The Clones. This was harder to do than TPM and ROTS, as this score was A LOT more complex than those two.The hardest cue to really edit was "Yoda Strikes Back". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Thanks,I know I'm missing bits of AotCI don't really feel like doing the duel vs Dooku either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 That's just being lazy and missing a rather important piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,382 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Alright everyone...the long nearly week torture is over. Here is the editing guide for Attack Of The Clones. This was harder to do than TPM and ROTS, as this score was A LOT more complex than those two.The hardest cue to really edit was "Yoda Strikes Back".Does this mean you had to edit the score, to make sure you had your guide right (so you knew what cues you needed to use for short bits, and which ones not too)? and does that mean, when you finished your guide, you finished editing too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Well duh. If I wasn't finished I wouldn't have put it up on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Oh wow - so great - amazing how you managed to make a sense out of those bits and pieces!Thank you so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 LEGO Star Wars II and III have the actual clean opening for the TPM/AOTC shared End Credits, just so you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 LEGO Star Wars II and III have the actual clean opening for the TPM/AOTC shared End Credits, just so you know.I don't have those files.Republic Commando also has it...hence why I changed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,382 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 LEGO Star Wars II and III have the actual clean opening for the TPM/AOTC shared End Credits, just so you know.I don't have those files.I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 LEGO Star Wars II and III have the actual clean opening for the TPM/AOTC shared End Credits, just so you know.I don't have those files.Republic Commando also has it...hence why I changed it.I do. Check your PMs shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Okay I'm going to say this once... there's only a very few people whom I'm going to share my AOTC edit with. Everyone else that has the capability of making their own edit IE: Faleel, KM you can do it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,382 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Just curious, if I get all of the gamerips needed for editing, how many GB would that take up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 My Star Wars Resource folder (where I keep everything that's not from albums - game rips, DVD rips, other audio files etc) is currently as 21.4 GB, with over 5,000 files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,382 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hmmm,... I have 89 GB... I should be able to wing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 There are things called terabyte external drives. They go for great prices on Amazon, Newegg.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now