Jonesy 55 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Do you know which file in Galaxies features the elevator music?In this file: mus_kashyyyk_oktikuti_city.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 too bad we never got it in better quality than 128k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yea, I thought I remembered that to be the case!Essentially I could buy this used for $3, pop it in my computer, and rip it like a CD to get those two bits, right?http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000065EUJ/I have that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Because I am a neat-freak, I'd love the cue list for the Phantom Menace, the proper one (timings and all). We only have a handful of cue titles and numbers for it, and it would make my TPM edit look much more coherent with my Revenge of the Sith and Attack of the Clones edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yeah, I will be very, very pleased if and when the original cue titles for TPM become available, especially if it's an official cue sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 It's definitely the Rosetta Stone needed to figure out the biggest mystery of the prequels, but sadly I don't know ANYBODY that has it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 TPM is probably very complex because some parts were re-scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Yeah, TPM is quite a puzzle. Despite the fact that this is one of the scores I've been most interested in editing for quite some time, I'm going to continue to hold off on that until we have really solid information on what music goes where. I know that a lot of the theories are very, very solid, but this is such a complicated editing situation that I want to be really, really sure before I even think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordskylark 1 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Two questions in regards to the cue sheets:Ep2--Any idea about what 2M4 would have been?Ep3--Is 1M1 Main Title (tracked) & 1M2 War Drums or was something else intended?Thanks,Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 For AOTC, since 2m4 doesnt appear on the cue list, that means it wasn't ever spotted. Sometimes numbers get jumped like that. It could also be for a scene deleted before the spotting sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Two questions in regards to the cue sheets:Ep2--Any idea about what 2M4 would have been?Ep3--Is 1M1 Main Title (tracked) & 1M2 War Drums or was something else intended?Thanks,AndyNot sure about what 2M4 would have been. It's quite possibly a numbering error made either by Williams or whoever noted down the cue numbers.1M1 is Main Title, it is tracked from the Phantom Menace. 1M2 is Boys into Battle. "War Drums" is something that was recorded separately along with most other percussion in Revenge of the Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Ep2--Any idea about what 2M4 would have been?Sometimes they just skip numbers if there's a long part of the film with no music. Ep3--Is 1M1 Main Title (tracked) & 1M2 War Drums or was something else intended?We don't really know, sadly. 1M3 is of course "Boys Into Battle", and it was always intended to be edited to segue from the tracked Main Title exactly as heard on the OST, so it's not like there would have been music in between. Maybe the Fox logo music was 1M1 and the Main Title was 1M2? Seems like it'd be a weird choice, but this actually isn't the first Star Wars score to have a situation like this. ANH has the cue "The War" (the first part of "Imperial Attack") numbered as 1M3, and that of course comes right after the main title, just like "Boys Into Battle." So who knows...In any case, I strongly doubt there was ever a separate "War Drums" cue. (And if there were, it would have been called something like "1M3 Percussion Overdub.") The percussion was simply recorded separately, apparently with some alterations from how it was originally written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 e don't really know, sadly. 1M3 is of course "Boys Into Battle", and it was always intended to be edited to segue from the tracked Main Title exactly as heard on the OST, so it's not like there would have been music in between. Maybe the Fox logo music was 1M1 and the Main Title was 1M2? Seems like it'd be a weird choice, but this actually isn't the first Star Wars score to have a situation like this. ANH has the cue "The War" (the first part of "Imperial Attack") numbered as 1M3, and that of course comes right after the main title, just like "Boys Into Battle." So who knows...In any case, I strongly doubt there was ever a separate "War Drums" cue. (And if there were, it would have been called something like "1M3 Percussion Overdub.") The percussion was simply recorded separately, apparently with some alterations from how it was originally written.This is what I believe also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordskylark 1 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 This is what I come up with then:EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE CLONES 20th Century Fox Fanfare1M1 1:25 Main Title1M2 1:27 The Arrival at Coruscant1M3 3:45 Thwarted Attempt1M4 1:18 The Meeting of Anakin and Padme1M5 0:51 She Hardly Recognized Me1M6 3:43 Zam's Dirty Trick1M7A 3:32 Zam Chase Pt. 11M7B 3:09 Zam in Pursuit2M1 3:58 Zam is Eliminated2M2 4:32 Palpatine's Plotting2M3 1:33 Departure2M4 [uNKNOWN TITLE - DEX'S DINER (SOURCE)]2M5 1:14 The Library Scene2M6 3:43 Yoda and the Younglings2M7 2:20 Approaching Naboo Palace3M1 1:31 Finding Kamino3M1 0:19 [uNTITLED - 3M1INSERT]3M2 0:47 Visiting the Prime Minister3M3 1:54 The First Kiss3M4 1:45 Interior Tipoca City3M5 2:26 The Meadow Scene3M5R 2:27 The Meadow Scene (Rev.)3M6 2:42 The Meeting with Fett3M7 3:44 The Dinner Scene3M8 2:34 Rainy Ramp and Anakin's Nightmare3M9 1:28 [uNTITLED]4M1 3:40 The Jango Fett Fight4M2 0:43 Watto Describes Mothers Fate4M3 2:15 The Spare Canister Caper4M4 3:11 The Arrival at Tatooine4M5 2:33 Obi-Wan Eavesdropping4M6 2:39 Rescuing Mother5M1A 1:43 Carrying Mother Home5M1B 2:25 Anakin Changes5M2 3:40 Smee's Funeral5M3 1:00 The Commerce Guild Prepares for War5M4 3:24 [uNTITLED]5M5 1:32 Finding the Conveyor Belt5M6 2:55 The Conveyor Belt5M6 0:03 [uNTITLED - 5M6INSERT]5M7 1:46 The Senate Scene6M1 2:37 Love Pledge6M2 0:06 Sweetener6M3 4:55 [uNTITLED]6M4 5:27 [uNTITLED]6M5 2:02 Padme Falls6M5 0:19 [uNTITLED - 6M5INSERT]7M1 2:21 Dooku Versus Obi-Wan7M2 2:18 Yoda Strikes Back7M3 5:23 Finale7M3 0:38 [uNTITLED - 7M3INSERT] 6:02 End Credits 6:02 End Credits - CD Version 6:02 End Credits - Gelb Version 5:38 End Credits - Updated Gelb VersionEPISODE III: REVENGE OF THE SITH1M1 [TRACKED -- 20th Century Fox Fanfare or Main Title??]1M2 [TRACKED -- Main Title or War Drums??]1M3 2:51 Boys into Battle1M4 1:42 They're Coming Around 1M4A 2:06 "Get 'em, R-2!" 1M5 3:24 The Elevator Scene 1M6 0:45 Count Dooku's Entrance 1M7 2:14 The Death of Dooku 1M8 [TRACKED -- Going Down]2M1 3:22 [uNTITLED -- Grievous and the Droids] 2M2 [TRACKED -- Coruscant's Warm Welcome]2M3 0:35 Another Happy Landing 2M4 1:54 Revisiting Padme 2M5 1:49 Grievous Travels to Palpatine 2M6 5:40 Scenes and Dreams2M7 1:31 Be Careful of Your Friend 3M1 4:10 Council Meeting3M2 0:39 Hold Me3M2A 1:35 Palpatine's TV Set3M3 3:33 Palpatine's Big Pitch3M4 [TRACKED -- Battle of Kashyyk]3M5 2:30 Goodbye Old Friend 3M6 2:13 Going to Utapau 3M7 1:28 Riding the Lizard 3M8 0:15 Obi-Wan Faces Droids4M1X 0:07 Drawing Swords4M1 [TRACKED -- Fighting with Grevious]4M1A 0:20 Good Guys Arrive 4M2 [TRACKED -- A Plot to Destroy the Jedi]4M3 2:37 Palpatine's Seduction 4M4 0:54 Rolling with Grievous 4M4A 1:32 Fighting with Grievous 4M5 1:26 Dialogue with Mace 4M5A 1:20 Padme's Ruminations 4M6 6:40 I Am the Senate 5M1 1:51 Palpatine Instructs Anakin 5M2 [TRACKED -- Execute Order 66]5M3 4:16 Lament 5M3A 0:30 Bail's Escape 5M4 2:39 Swimming, Droids and Yoda Farewell 5M5 2:00 News of the Attack 5M6 4:12 Moving Things Along 5M7 2:13 Anakin's Dark Deeds 6M1 4:58 It Can't Be 6M2 0:51 A Moody Trip 6M3 5:02 Padme's Visit 6M4 4:31 Heroes Collide 6M5new 1:27 Duel of the Fates (Choir Only)6M6 0:50 Yoda Falls 6M7 2:04 The Boys Continue 6M8R 0:29 Yoda to Exile (Rev)6M9 2:37 Revenge of the Sith 6M9 3:00 Revenge of the Sith (DVD Version) [battle of the Heroes?]7M1 2:20 The Immolation Scene 7M2 2:01 Anakin Crawling 7M3 2:26 The Birth of the Twins 7M4 1:58 The Death of Padme 7M5 1:37 Plans for the Twins7M6 1:07 Padme's Funeral 7M7 1:20 A Home for the Twins7M8 11:00 End Credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 From the official cue list for ROTS:1M1 Fox Fanfare (The Empire Strikes Back Recording)1M2 Star Wars Main Theme (The Phantom Menace Recording)2M1 Grievous and the DroidsAlso, 6M6 0:50 Yoda Falls is 15 seconds long, not 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Which official cue list are you referring to? Because 2M1 was definitely untitled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Which official cue list are you referring to? Because 2M1 was definitely untitled.Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 It was? i was referring to the cue list apparently released to Hyperspace members. Curious... maybe people had added a few titles of their own in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Well, its untitled on Williams' original sketch, the fully orchestrated sheet music, as well as the cue list PDF that Phoenix posted to this thread a few pages back.Of course, since it was called "Grievous and the Droids" on the OST, that name is the best name to use for it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sido-Dyas 0 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Ep2--Any idea about what 2M4 would have been?Based on the final film, I would guess that 2m4 is the source music for Dex's Diner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 D'oh! Of course. I'm sure you're right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Of course we know that John didn't compose the source music for TPM and AOTC but rather his son. I could see why it would be missing from the sheet music and cue list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordskylark 1 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I saw that hyperspace cue list for Ep3 -- I don't believe that it listed ANY of the tracked music cues, including 1M1 and 1M2.But anyhow, I updated the lists with the Dex's Diner marked now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hey guys I don't think this was ever discovered in the PC rips of TFU 1. File 340 - PC_mxFE2_jwSusState01_lp is the ending for "The Spare Canister Caper".Edit: Also file 374 - PC_mxRX1_jwTransition09_nl has the portion of "Grevious Travels To Palpatine" with out the choir. You can replicate the ending from "Reel 4 Deconstruction". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I'm sorry, but file 374 does not contain Grievous Travels to Palpatine without the choir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Trent said file 374 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Neither does 374. 374 contains a portion of Fighting with Grievous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Some interesting discussions about the AOTC score over here.Up until today, its still kinda unbelievable how badly edited the score for AOTC was: the looping, the tracked music on places where it wasnt needed at all. The edit during the 2nd part of the meadow picnic is quite absurd and I still dont get it why they didnt use the original transition from the fire place scene to the rainy ramp scene.I have another question. In the movie, the transition between Visiting prime minister & first kiss contains some tracked music form the beginning of that cue. Could it be that the original transition is heard at the beginning of the extended Naboo arrival deleted scene? It contains some music I cant really place and continues with the music heard at the island retreat balcony. Ive been wondering this for some time.Indeed, i think that is the original cue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I must have a different rip for the TFU PC files then than what you two got but I heard it last night when I was listening to the files.Edit: Crap I was wrong it's file 372 - PC_mxRX1_jwTransition07_nl. My bad on that fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Just listened to the file, there's nothing there that isn't on the Album (it's actually the bit that is prior to the choral kicking in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Just listened to the file, there's nothing there that isn't on the Album (it's actually the bit that is prior to the choral kicking in).Ah okay by the way file 81 from TFU 2 contains the clean opening for "Carrying Home Mother" from AOTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 By the way is there a clean ending for "Extracting Revenge"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I think you mean "exacting" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I think you mean "exacting" Ah right, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Sadly not - I just use a feigned ending with samples (although it doesn't sound as good). We do have the clean opening though (from TFU2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Can anyone please tell me how to assemble "7m1 Dooku Versus Obi-Wan"? I'm completely confused.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 The bottom line is that no one knows for sure. =/ We don't have any solid information on what exactly goes where, and we don't know how much music is missing, if any. Hopefully that information will become available eventually, but for now...it's anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 I think I've nailed it down but it's too hard to type up in words on what to use and such. Just be patient and wait to see if we end up getting the sheet music for that cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Well, ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krang 1 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Are we expecting any unreleased cues to be found in the new Star Wars Lego video game coming out next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 No, not really. LEGO Star Wars has a history of using album-only material, and they'll probably be using mostly music from the TV series, although never say never (since we get some AOTC levels) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Can anyone please tell me how to assemble "7m1 Dooku Versus Obi-Wan"? I'm completely confused....I gave up a long time ago and just use someone elses edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 No, not really. LEGO Star Wars has a history of using album-only material, and they'll probably be using mostly music from the TV series, although never say never (since we get some AOTC levels)And possibly, music will contain SFX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 yes, they always have embedded sound effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I think the fact that Attack of the Clones is such a mess in presentation adds to its desirability. I want to hear how it was supposed to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 There's a bit mixed in with the Conveyor Belt tracks in Bounty Hunter that I first thought was a few notes from Zam in Pursuit. But on closer inspection it's definitely not (similar notes but they lack certain instruments over them), and it's definitely not the music composed by the game's composer, so that got me thinking. What if that small brass section is actually the 3-second 5M6 insert? Sadly, it's not useable because whoever mixed the game placed percussion all over the track, ruining the piece, and I haven't yet found a way of removing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Thanks for pointing that out ggtuck. Even though that section does have the drums or whatever overlayed on it I'm still going to use it, simply because on the OST it's edited to hell and there's no way to get an accurate edit of it and the TFU material. If we're using the OST time for track 14, I think that 5m6 insert would go about 0:50 into the cue then the rest would be "The Conveyor Belt". It would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Yup...I'm working on trying to remove the percussion from the file (since it's looped from a certain point). At the moment the primary problem is finding the right point to mix in a reversed wave version of the percussion, and finding the right volume to mix it in at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Actually I'm wrong, since "The Conveyor Belt" according to the PDF time is 2:55 it should start at 0:46 from the OST time with those string notes under the trumpet notes. Then the insert would go before that point. So the insert I do believe is in the correct place in the Bounty Hunter file. The clean ending for "The Conveyor Belt" would be file music_CSDQ_FUM01 from the PS2 rips of TFU 1.Edit: Gah I was right the first time "The Conveyor Belt" I do believe would start at 0:50 into the cue from using the OST time for track 14. Also interesting enough the material on the OST in order to match the Bounty Hunter material for the "clean" ending needs to be pitched up by 102.5%.Double Edit: Now that I think more about it, I wonder if that insert was meant to go at the end of the cue. The way how it ends in the Bounty Hunter file is exactly how that unused ending begins before they cut it out. If you also listen closely to the original ending before the trumpet portion kicks in, it sounds a lot like the horn bit from that insert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Aha finally someone listened to me! I knew there was unreleased material in the bounty hunter file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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