Jilal 569 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I just uploaded a video of the Obi-Wan vs Jango Fett fight on youtube, and it showed me this:Your video, Obi-Wan Vs Jango Fett HD , may include content that is owned or administered by these entities:* Entity: Warner Chappell Content Type: Musical CompositionMaybe Warner Chappell now has the rights to the music? Is this a sign that complete releases are going to be released?Did it block it?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 They own the rights to all of the music of Star Wars, I think. I believe we have discussed this before in this thread.Actually Sony is the one who owns all the rights to the Star Wars music. If another company has it it's possible they may release the complete scores for the Prequels.Now let's hope they use an easy convertable sound format!It seems we will have the quiet part from dooku vs obi-wan which was featured in bounty hunter.What file are you talking about for the Bounty Hunter that has that part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I'm sure I read somewhere they administer the music. It might have been in a video game manual (because it was mentioned alongside Bantha Music). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I'm sure I read somewhere they administer the music. It might have been in a video game manual (because it was mentioned alongside Bantha Music).The Force Unleashed says:Original Star Wars musiccomposed byJohn Williams (P) and © LucasfilmLtd. & TM.All rights reserved. Used unerauthorisation. Published by BanthaMusic (BMI).Administered by and/orco-published by Warner-Tamerline Music PublishingCorp. (BMI)That's not Warner Chappell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 No, it wasn't in there. For some reason, I seem to be remembering it being in The Phantom Menace manual, or one of its derivative games. in any case, they're both owned by WMG anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 No, it wasn't in there. For some reason, I seem to be remembering it being in The Phantom Menace manual, or one of its derivative games. in any case, they're both owned by WMG anyways.everygame lists bantha music group (a warner company) to be the owners of the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krang 1 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Alexander, I would try uploading something from either TPM or ROTS just to see if it says anything different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Well in the EP I UE it says... "All music published by Bantha Music (BMI), Admistered by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp. Used by permission./ and SONY CLASSICAL Reg. U.S.... etc.Distribution Sony MusicEp II also mentions Warner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 So, according to this, SONY serves only as the distributor, IE the soundtrack-release holder. The master rights belong to Bantha Music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 in fact Warner Chappel lists 800+ John Williams "songs" incl all the Star Wars stuffwhat does that mean?http://www.warnerchappell.com/B2BSongSearchAction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 It probably means they own a lot of Williams masters (and note they actually list the masters of the film soundtracks too). Shame we can't even see a list of track info there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krang 1 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Perhaps the change in copyright status on youtube has something to do with WMG being sold to Access Industries this month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 "A Knife at Gunfight" is also listed there.. isn't that an unreleased INdy IV Track??Could we find some missing cuetitles in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 btw, i received that itunes message when i uploaded videos of live concert of music fron all star wars films, and Catch me if you can 'escapades for saxo and orchestra'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 "A Knife at Gunfight" is also listed there.. isn't that an unreleased INdy IV Track??Could we find some missing cuetitles in there?A Knife to A Gunfight you mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 yes that's what I meant . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I'm inclined to believe that the cue titles on this page are all legit, or very close. All of the original cue titles that we do know are correct there, and the rest are pretty consistent with Williams' idiosyncratic style of naming cues. FWIW, it lists that cue as "A Knife at a Gunfight." The second "a" could have either been accidentally added here or accidentally omitted from that other list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 well it was not omitted.. only by me - it says A Knife at a gunfight.http://www.warnerchappell.com/B2BSongSearchAction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I'm inclined to believe that the cue titles on this page are all legit, or very close. All of the original cue titles that we do know are correct there, and the rest are pretty consistent with Williams' idiosyncratic style of naming cues. FWIW, it lists that cue as "A Knife at a Gunfight." The second "a" could have either been accidentally added here or accidentally omitted from that other list.jason can tell us where he got those track names and confirm its 'officiality' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 So, most of the ROTS percussion was recorded seperatly? The sheet music does not have the snare drums in Boys Into Battle. That would explain why the tracked intro from Boys Into Battle in Good Guys Arrive has no snare drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Actually, the snare drums (and/or field drums) are referred to as "deep drums" in the score. That's something Williams has especially tended to do in recent years...I'm not sure why. But the percussion indeed seems to have been recorded separately, since there are multiple instances of the percussion being dialed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Such as the tracked bit of Boys Into Battle, the looped portions of I Am The Senate, and on the album, the Elevator Scene (track 1) and Enter Lord Vader (track 11). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Music Vol.1 on the Star Wars soundboard..... perhaps something good will turn up in vol.2?(http://starwars.com/games/playnow/soundboards/#/?theme=68) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Yet again it's all in mono, although that's no surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 The sound quality is beyond awfulIt's almost a joke to even put it up in such degraded quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 It would be better than SFX ridden DVD rips, or nothing (If of course they do ever put something good on Vol. 2, which I doubt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 The only thing they put up when they had the music for the mashups was the missing note of Droid Fight, and I think these days such a thing could easily be made with a sequencer anyways - the rest of what was there was already available from the games. AOTC and ROTS had mono versions of the album music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 What do i need for editing Goodbye Old Friend? I've made a list myself, but i do not know if it's complete:Battlefront IIGalaxiesThe Force UnleashedBy the way, you can also easily edit out the editing from the Galaxies 'Arrival At Utapaue End' file. They combined the beginning ostinato with the end of the cue. If you use the rear channels for that bit you can make a nice edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Actually, the snare drums (and/or field drums) are referred to as "deep drums" in the score. That's something Williams has especially tended to do in recent years...I'm not sure why. But the percussion indeed seems to have been recorded separately, since there are multiple instances of the percussion being dialed out.They used the percussion (and piano) track of "Rolling with Grievous" for the Fuel Chamber Escape deleted scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Yup, that's another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Wasn't sure if this had been posted but its an AMAZING read:http://www.starwars.com/media/general/moswros_thefinalchapter.pdfDay 1: Wednesday, February 2, 20056M3 Padmé’s Visit (reel 6, cue 3 for that reel) 1M7 The Death of Dooku 6M4 Heroes Collide 4M3 Palpatine’s Seduction Day 2: Thursday, February 3, 20056M9 Revenge of the SithRevenge of the Sith DVD Version3M5 Good-Bye, Old Friend2M5 Grievous Travels to Palpatine5M7 Anakin’s Dark Deeds2M3 Another Happy Landing6M6 Yoda Falls5M1 Palpatine Instructs Anakin4M1x Drawing SwordsDay 3: Monday, February 7, 20055M3 Lament7M3 The Birth of the Twins7M4 The Death of Padmé7M6 Padmé’s Funeral3M2a Palpatine’s TV Set1M4a Get ’em, R-2!7M7 A Home for the TwinsDay 4: Tuesday, February 8, 20056M7 The Boys Continue7M2 Anakin Crawling4M4a Fighting with Grievous7M5 Plans for the Twins4M5a Padmé’s Ruminations 7M1 The Immolation Scene 4M1a Good Guys Arrive Day 5: Wednesday, February 9, 20052M1 [no title]5M4 Swimming, Droids, and Yoda Farewell5M6 Moving Things Along3M3 Palpatine’s Big PitchDay 6: Saturday, February 12, 20051M3 Boys into Battle2M6 Scenes and Dreams3M7 Riding the Lizard6M2 A Moody Trip6M8 Rev. Yoda to Exile3M8 Obi-Wan Fares [sic] Droids5M5 News of the AttackDay 7: Sunday, February 13, 20053M6 Going to Utapau4M4 Rolling with Grievous3M2 Hold Me2M7 Be Careful of Your FriendDay 8: Monday, February 14, 20051M4 They’re Coming Around3M1 Council Meeting4M6 I Am the Senate1M6 Count Dooku’s Entrance5M3a Bail’s EscapeDay 9: Thursday, February 17, 20051M5 The Elevator Scene6M1 It Can’t Be7M8 End Credits4M5 Dialogue with MaceNot Assigned2M4 Revisiting Padmé6M5 **Choir Only**callout 009Note: The Star Wars theme will not be re-recorded; a preexisting version will be used for Revenge of the Sith. Additional days 10 and 11 are scheduled for February 18 and 19, if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTallJodie 59 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 "...and George says that even Francis Ford Coppola, who is usually not enthusiastic about Star Wars, actually likes this one."They shoulda put that quote on the poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 GM I do remember that being posted a couple of years ago but it's been long since buried. Nice finding it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 How did you get the ROTS taiko drums? The front channels have this hum from the republic attack cruiser, and the rear channels sound bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 GM I do remember that being posted a couple of years ago but it's been long since buried. Nice finding it again.i think i posted it again a few months ago.eveytime it reads and 'news' i dont know why we forget it existence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Does anybody know what "6M7 Revisions" is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 The melody of Battle of the Heroes got changed slightly, and Williams went back and revised many statements of the theme accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I'm aware Williams wrote different introducing and ending sections for Revenge of the Sith, for use as the Battle of the Heroes concert suite, but I was unaware that the actual piece itself was modified. So because of these modifications, the Battle of the Heroes motifs in the cues that preceeded it - Heroes Collide and Boys Continue - were changed? Were these changes made pre-recording or post-recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 how does these intros and outros sound?first time i heard of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I'm talking of the final intro and ending to Battle of the Heroes, as heard on the album. Williams allegedly wrote a different intro for the film version, and of course, we know that it had a different ending (as heard in the End Credits suite).Is it possible that the End Credits Suite has a rendition of the original opening after Leia's theme, or was that another revised bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I'm aware Williams wrote different introducing and ending sections for Revenge of the Sith, for use as the Battle of the Heroes concert suite, but I was unaware that the actual piece itself was modified. So because of these modifications, the Battle of the Heroes motifs in the cues that preceeded it - Heroes Collide and Boys Continue - were changed? Were these changes made pre-recording or post-recording?That's correct - the melody itself was altered slightly, apparently before any recordings were done. The original version was retained in some places as a variation on the theme (e.g., the very first horn statement of the theme in the final version of the concert suite).There seems to be some confusion about the intro, too. The cue "Revenge of Sith" (remember, there's no "the" in the cue title) was written for use in the film, and it starts exactly as heard in the film, with the buildup before the first big choral statement of the theme. It also ends as heard in the film. Then Williams also wrote "Revenge of Sith (DVD Version)", which was largely identical, but featured an extended intro and a coda at the end. At some point, the intro was rewritten; the original version was similar but a little longer, and the melody was rather different. I believe the coda wasn't rewritten. Anyway, the DVD version with the coda, the rewritten intro, and the revisions to the melody throughout the piece was released as the track "Battle of the Heroes."As for the credits, I think they just reused the same recording of "Revenge of Sith", since that part of the credits was written to be completely identical to that cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 so it is not like JP theme?BOTH concert version being the film cue recording with added intro and coda?I'm sorry ggtcuk, i understood you as is there had been written several versions of the intro and coda. my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 That's okay, I think I confused myself there too.Are the taiko drums mixed into the album version of Boys Into battle? At first, I thought not, but I turned the volume up really loud and I could swear I heard traces of them hidden in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 It's not entirely clear, Luke. IIRC, they seem to have used the same recording of "Revenge of Sith" for the DVD version, too, but I can't check right now.But yeah, there definitely was another version of the intro. It probably wasn't ever recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Are the taiko drums mixed into the album version of Boys Into battle? At first, I thought not, but I turned the volume up really loud and I could swear I heard traces of them hidden in there.we have been discussing this form the very beggining XDit's proof that the taikos were intended to be there.Maybe the OST have smaller drums to give tempo and/or know exactly where to mix the 'sepparately-recorded-film-version-taikos'or its just the echo of the drums, and they were recorded in a sepparate booth and dialed out, like in giacchino's scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 The taiko's are only supposed to play untill the force theme shows up, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 the fanfare also has its drums? not the rithm, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 The fact that they appear solo after the main title (in the film) proves that they where recorded separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 they could have recorded them sepparately when they decided they were not going to use the new ending to the main titles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 the fanfare also has its drums? not the rithm, thoughThey play up untill the force theme appears, like i said before. But originally the rythm they played was a bit different.the fanfare also has its drums? not the rithm, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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