Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Depends. If Bond directors start realizing they can negotiate their composer we might get some nice variety finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I'm ok with variety (Hamlisch and Conti's scores are great), but the series should have a somewhat consistent sound, and for now that sound is David Arnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 This was Thomas Newman. I'd like to see his cousin Randy score the next Bond movie. Maybe we can get a song of lost friendship and suppressed man-love to play over a montage of James and Q examining their new toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Spy people got no reason to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I'm ok with variety (Hamlisch and Conti's scores are great), but the series should have a somewhat consistent sound, and for now that sound is David Arnold.Arnold has scored enough Bond movies. Time for someone knew to take a stab at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I'm ok with variety (Hamlisch and Conti's scores are great), but the series should have a somewhat consistent sound, and for now that sound is David Arnold.Arnold has scored enough Bond movies. Time for someone knew to take a stab at it.I disagree. He just established his own voice for Bond with his last two scores and really set up the new sound for Bond after just adding a bunch of electronics and renditions of the Bond theme in the Brosnan era and calling it a day.As for Skyfall, I'm still waiting for the CD to listen to it on its own, but after seeing it last night after plunging through that nor'easter, I was happy. It was hard to tell the music a lot of the time because of how loud the sound system was, but I never really disliked what I heard. One of my favorite bits though when Bond gets the upperhand on Silva after their first encounter, is apparently not of the CD from what I've been told which is disheartening. Also, I wish he would have done a better job of setting the music to the gunbarrel at the end. Of course, if it was in its proper place at the beginning it probably wouldn't have been a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I'm ok with variety (Hamlisch and Conti's scores are great), but the series should have a somewhat consistent sound, and for now that sound is David Arnold.Arnold has scored enough Bond movies. Time for someone knew to take a stab at it.If that means more like Skyfall, I can safely say that this will have been the last Bond score I bought on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I'm ok with variety (Hamlisch and Conti's scores are great), but the series should have a somewhat consistent sound, and for now that sound is David Arnold.Arnold has scored enough Bond movies. Time for someone knew to take a stab at it.I disagree. He just established his own voice for Bond with his last two scores and really set up the new sound for Bond after just adding a bunch of electronics and renditions of the Bond theme in the Brosnan era and calling it a day.Scratch that. Reverse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Anyone else having a hard time finding the pressed CD in stores? I've only been able to find the Adele single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Anyone else having a hard time finding the pressed CD in stores? I've only been able to find the Adele single.That's all you need. That orchestral bullshit used in the rest of the movie is just boring filler, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 691 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Haven't listened to the score on its own yet, but having seen the movie twice, my impression is that the score is good; unspectacular, but good. Never at any point does it hurt the movie, and there are times -- such as the arrivals in Shanghai and Macau -- when it helps it quite a bit. There were lots of other scenes, though, where I found myself thinking that any one of a dozen other composers I could think of would have been able to do a much more interesting job.If Newman were to come back, I wouldn't despair, but all in all, I think I'd rather Arnold come back. Or maybe let someone like Giacchino or Murray Gold take a stab at it.Really, though, if the movie is as good as this one, I can live with a mediocre score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,939 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Giacchino could do great Bond, as he did with the two M:Ibut i want arnold to continue if he wants, let other people when he quits. MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Haven't listened to the score on its own yet, but having seen the movie twice, my impression is that the score is good; unspectacular, but good. Never at any point does it hurt the movie, and there are times -- such as the arrivals in Shanghai and Macau -- when it helps it quite a bit. There were lots of other scenes, though, where I found myself thinking that any one of a dozen other composers I could think of would have been able to do a much more interesting job.If Newman were to come back, I wouldn't despair, but all in all, I think I'd rather Arnold come back. Or maybe let someone like Giacchino or Murray Gold take a stab at it.Really, though, if the movie is as good as this one, I can live with a mediocre score. I agree with the first statement (it absolutely does its job) but after listening to several Arnold and Giacchino action scores, i'm quite sure i don't anticipate their future involvements. It's like hoping one buttered toast will be a delicious meal because another one tasted square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 In this case, Newman's score is a piece of toast, untoasted, with no butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It's definitely burnt, but if you take the edge of a knife and scrape the blackened layer away, you find... ah, what the hell, just chuck it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 In this case, Newman's score is a piece of toast, untoasted, with no butter.I'll mail Thomas' office a request for a SKYFALL complete promo to Bamberg immediately! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 No thanks, I have my 2 minute long highlight suite already. It's called "Breadcrumbs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 God, this discussion is making me hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Giacchino could do great Bond, as he did with the two M:Ibut i want arnold to continue if he wants, let other people when he quits.So composers should keep composing for a franchise as long as they want to?Change is a good thing, especially after 5 films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I speaking in the sense of film scores. How many franchises that contain 5 consecutive films scores by the same composer are all great scores?I can't imagine how mundane Potter 8 would have been if Williams stuck around for the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 The Bond franchise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I don't know yet I haven't listened to the samples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Anyone tried to figure out the track order for the Skyfall score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I speaking in the sense of film scores. How many franchises that contain 5 consecutive films scores by the same composer are all great scores?From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Diamonds Are Forever.All six by John Barry, all six great, and even with ascending quality if I may add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 For once I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I wouldn't call all of those great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 At least he stopped short of naming MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,939 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I wouldn't call all of those great.because they are not zimmer or morricone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 At least he stopped short of naming MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.The Man With The Golden Gun was written by John Barry in two weeks and still radiates more of a classy aura than Newman's lukewarm Bourne/Arnold copy.I wouldn't call all of those great.Of course not, you consider GoldenEye one of the series' best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Right after On Her Majesty's Secret Service! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Moron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 The guitar line from Grand Bazaar, Istanbul is stuck in my head. That's a pretty good sign, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 A pretty good sign that you're insane? Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 So what else is new?----Ya know, for once, I'm ok with Adele's song not being here. 78 minutes of Newman's own is ok by me. HEY-OH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Anyone tried to figure out the track order for the Skyfall score?Got this off of CommanderBond. Don't know how accurate it is but at least it can serve as a temporary list.Sequence OST Track Title1 1 Grand Bazaar, Istanbul2 14 The Bloody Shot4 2 Voluntary Retirement5 15 Enjoying Death6 3 New Digs7 5 Brave New World*8 30 Adrenaline*9 10 Day Wasted*10 6 Shanghai Drive11 7 Jellyfish12 8 Silhouette13 9 Modigliani*14 17 Close Shave15 13 Komodo Dragon16 12 Someone Usually Dies17 4 Severine18 16 The Chimera19 11 Quartermaster20 18 Health & Safety21 19 Granborough Road22 20 Tennyson23 21 Enquiry24 22 Breadcrumbs25 23 Skyfall26 24 Kill Them First27 25 Welcome to Scotland28 26 She's Mine29 27 The Moors30 28 Deep Water31 29 Mother32 31 Old Dog, New Tricks**Old Dog, New Tricks is apparently not in the film. Also, Arnold's "The Name's Bond...James Bond" was re-orchestrated and used at the end but also unreleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,428 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 They skipped 3 and ended up with 32 tracks instead of 31 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Looks like 3 is the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,428 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Ah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Yeah, I just figured I'd post it to help those concerned. I don't have the CD so I have no way of knowing how accurate it is. There was a better list that actually had the breakdowns of scenes and what bits were missing (like Bond capturing Silva on the island) but I can't remember where I found it. If I do, I'll be sure to post it for whomever's interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 What do the asterisks signify? If you find that other list please post it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Yeah, please do. I was upset that silva's escape wasn't on the OST. That was a great cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I'm ok with variety (Hamlisch and Conti's scores are great), but the series should have a somewhat consistent sound, and for now that sound is David Arnold.Arnold has scored enough Bond movies. Time for someone knew to take a stab at it.I disagree. He just established his own voice for Bond with his last two scores and really set up the new sound for Bond after just adding a bunch of electronics and renditions of the Bond theme in the Brosnan era and calling it a day.Arnold is Brosnan's sound and Newman's is Craig's. Letting sleeping dogs lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 691 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Arnold's sound matches Craig fairly well, I'd say. Newman did nothing Arnold couldn't have done as well, so why not stick with Arnold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 468 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I think Newman's score for Skyfall works just fine in the movie. It's not Arnold for sure, but there's nothing offensive about the score. It suffers from temp-track syndrome, particularly Zimmer's Dark Knight score and Arnold's previous 007 outings in places, but it works in the film. When Newman's allowed to do his own thing, recalling The Debt and Adjustment Bureau, it's quite beautiful and hypnotic for the more technology-savvy Bond.The movie is good enough to carry the score by itself. Roger Deakins' work is beyond reproach here, as well as the editing. Never once did I notice a strange or jarring cut... it flowed beautifully from start to finish. Newman's score could've been much better, but it works in the film and I can't complain about that. Whether it's a good listen on CD is a different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 It also works well on CD. I'm really enjoying it. I agree that Arnold's style works for the Craig movies. He actually adjusted his "Bond sound" a bit when Craig took over. Some moments is Skyfall do have an Arnold ring to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,520 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Who would have thought you'd be this score's strongest advocate on this forum, Stefan? Unexpected, but pleasantly so.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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