#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 True, but none of the new themes in DoS have that "hummability" factor of The Fellowship Theme/Rohan/Gondor either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 *Insert joke about hummed House of Durin Theme* Smeltington and ChrisAfonso 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It would be interesting to hear PJs and Shore's reasoning for dropping The Misty Mountains theme out of the movies completely in DoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Hopefully we'll get something in the upcoming vlog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,223 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It would be interesting to hear PJs and Shore's reasoning for dropping The Misty Mountains theme out of the movies completely in DoS.It would be interesting to overhear a private conversation between them on the matter. My vision of it has Shore in Paul Giamatti mode ("I'm not gonna drink any fuckin' merlot!"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It would be interesting to hear PJs and Shore's reasoning for dropping The Misty Mountains theme out of the movies completely in DoS.Indeed. Even after the breaking of the fellowship their theme was still used throughout in LOTR.But...while I found it surprising the theme wasn't used at all, I can't say I've missed it at all. It was never part of the fabric of Shore's score as much as The Fellowship theme was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It would be interesting to hear PJs and Shore's reasoning for dropping The Misty Mountains theme out of the movies completely in DoS.Indeed. Even after the breaking of the fellowship their theme was still used throughout in LOTR.But...while I found it surprising the theme wasn't used at all, I can't say I've missed it at all. It was never part of the fabric of Shore's score as much as The Fellowship theme was.Well that is true. This film focuses on the journey and the set pieces in its themes more than giving the company an overearching idea, until the final section where the House of Durin rises to be the main theme of defiance against Smaug. That said the Woodland Realm's themes (I consider Tauriel's themes an extension of that world) become surprisingly prominent after they are introduced as the elves start to mettle in the affairs of the mortals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Oh I think The Laketown theme is eminently hummable, and a few others aren't far behind.I don't think we've seen the last of the Misty Mountains theme. As I said before, I could see its return being linked to that song they sing inside Erebor at night, which features the same melody.I really can't wait for Shore's music for the Five Armies. The potential for all manners of themes intertwining is tremendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Well that is true. This film focuses on the journey and the set pieces in its themes more than giving the company an overearching idea, until the final section where the House of Durin rises to be the main theme of defiance against Smaug.That's why I wonder if Shore would have featured such an obvious theme for The Company if he had not been asked to use the Plan9 theme. He might have wanted to take a slow burn approach, and work his way to a triumphant development of the Dwarrow-ish material over time.Oh I think The Laketown theme is eminently hummable, and a few others aren't far behind.If I had not listened to the score before the film came out, I think the Laketown theme would have been the only new theme I'd be able to hum after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 BB nice to read your initial thoughts, but upon subsequent listens I am sure you'll find it fits in with AUJ and the LOTR scores more. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This been posted yet?http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2013/12/13/howard-shore-hobbit Incanus and Glóin the Dark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Interesting, no big revelations though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Wait? Shore is being given his own production diary? We will be able to hear him talk about his music? See him write? Or will it just be Pope and PJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 No one knows yet, but surely we can expect it soon. I can't see it all being about the music though. They'll probably include the premiere shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I think we all do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I'm assume none of that was ever recorded, or only as synth demo's for the directors approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 With more disgust and disdain Alvar!Think "herd".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?guest=99810433&do%3Dpost_view_flat%3Bsb%3Dpost_time%3Bso%3DDESC%3Bpost%3D683531=View+Flat+Mode#683531The trailer music better than Shore? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Well, at least he didn't use the E word anywhere in his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 The opening of #HowardShore's first #Hobbit score combines the melodic shape of the House of Durin theme (as heard in #DOS) ... (https://twitter.com/DougAdamsMusic/status/411611706201079809)... with the #4-5 harmonic resolution of the History of the Ring theme (as heard in #LOTR).http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2013/12/13/howard-shore-hobbitLooking forwards to the production diary too.Nice to see this confirmed Hidden connections like these are what helps making these scores special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Well, at least he didn't use the E word anywhere in his post.... Erebor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Epic. It pains me to even type it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Shore didnt really vary the theme much throughout AUJ I thought.What about in Moon Runes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 What about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 ....NVM then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 How dare you undermine what I believe to be true with facts? Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 So, is there any chronological order editing guide forthcoming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Considering the amount of intercutting within individual tracks, it's going to be hard to get very close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I have a pretty good idea of the order after seeing the film once (it helped that I listened to the OST probably 30-40 times before seeing the movie)... I have to write it all out to till though. And I might see the movie again tomorrow to confirm things. But yes, Shore definitely seemed to have combined cues from different places of the movie into single tracks this time, so the chronological order will require splitting tracks up. BTW, is this the very first LOTR/Hobbit score without an appearance of Nature's Reclamation, Isengard, Lothlorien, or any of Gollum's themes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Or any of Gondor or Ringwraith themes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 It kind of has Nature Reclamation as the fundament for Beorn's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 It kind of has Nature Reclamation as the fundament for Beorn's theme.Well that isn't exactly the clearest possible reference even though it might a connection to that particular theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Also, it seems that some of the tracks (like The Forest River) are multiple cues crossfaded for listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Does that grand statement of Tauriel's theme appear in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Track time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Does that grand statement of Tauriel's theme appear in the film?It seems all of Tauriel's theme statements made it.Also' I think Legolas entrance had some percussion (cymbals I think) instead of the bit on the soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,223 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 My special edition ripped the first time I tried to get disc 1 out Jeez, those discs are obstinate, aren't they! It's as though the capacity to dislodge them is the mark of the true king of the realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 No problems at all with the WaterTower US versions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'll be getting the European SE for Christmas. Hope the booklet holds out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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