Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 That, plus images on none native devices don't adequately demonstrate the actual visual difference anyway. See the bridge in panning motion, blown up on a big UHD screen, and it'd be incredibly striking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Stefancos said: Can someone finally tell me what the fuck HDR is? 4K TV's have more pixels, and thus give you more resolution. More resolution is fine, but it's like making computers laptops thinner and thinner...it's not a great leap forward, and the law of diminishing returns has already kicked in on resolution. HDR, on the other hand, makes each one of those pixels better...whites are brighter, blacks are darker, and everything in between shows much more clarity and nuance. Colour is better (10-bit...about a billion colours vs. 16 million for blu ray), contrast is better, brightness is better. Anyone can immediately see the improvement with HDR on any size TV at any distance. Also, the HDR you see in photos on your phone (which is created by combining multiple exposures taken of each shot) is not the same as you'll see on a true HDR monitor with native video HDR content. It's still HDR, but it's a different tech which can produce varying results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 That's why I replied to Drax with "Lol". Because his comment was both ignorant and quaint. HDR is a tough sell, simply because nobody has the necessary tech to view its demo material. There's plenty of HDR videos online, but they all look exactly the same as standard videos - when viewed on a standard non HDR capable device. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Quintus said: That's why I replied to Drax with "Lol". Because his comment was both ignorant and quaint. Incorrect. I was referring to screencaps of HDR movies vs non-HDR movies, not HDR shots taken with multiple exposures with a camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Quintus said: That's why I replied to Drax with "Lol". Because his comment was both ignorant and quaint. HDR is a tough sell, simply because nobody has the necessary tech to view its demo material. There's plenty of HDR videos online, but they all look exactly the same as standard videos - when viewed on a standard non HDR capable device. Brands do make an effort though. Samsung has TV ads for their Quantum Dot 4k screens. Not understanding the fallacy of trying to show off the image quality of a brand new TV on a 9 year old LCD one. Bless them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 So would that $600 Panasonic I could get have HDR, or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: So would that $600 Panasonic I could get have HDR, or no? Real HDR at that price? Unlikely. What's the model #? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 If it does have it I bet its a achilles heel will be its MS response. Only the still prohibitively expensive sets tend to come with both features as spec'd up as I'd need them to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 If I'm reading the thread correctly, he's looking at a 1080p plasma, which most certainly won't have HDR (though that Panasonic is an excellent plasma TV Jay....I'd buy it over any similarly priced LED 4K set, unless you sit relatively close to your TV, or are using it in a very bright room). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Nick1066 said: If I'm reading the thread correctly, he's looking at a 1080p plasma, which most certainly won't have HDR (though that Panasonic is an excellent plasma TV Jay....I'd buy it over any similarly priced LED 4K set, unless you sit relatively close to your TV, or are using it in a very bright room). I buy that Panasonic Plasma over any $2000 LED 4K set. The whole LED backlight concept is unnatural (and invented because it was cheap to manufacture). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 In most circumstances, I absolutely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 They do look great for gaming because of the brightness levels they can achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I thought gamers went for CRT TVs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Twenty years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 When someone says "twenty years" ago, my brain automatically thinks of about 1980 for some reason. Then I have to correct it to the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 As home entertainment was meant to be. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 With a screen formatted for all your pre-Enterprise Star Trek and Twin Peaks viewing pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Godzilla said: As home entertainment was meant to be. Then why don't you sell your Panasonic ZT60 to Jay? He might give you 600 US Dollars for it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Is that a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 No, but Jay probably doesn't wanna give more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, Richard said: Is that a lot? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 53 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Then why don't you sell your Panasonic ZT60 to Jay? He might give you 600 US Dollars for it!!! The ZT60 was never made available in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Can you prove that you have a Panasonic Plasma, Drax? Why don't you take a picture of it with that Canon 6D of yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I'm not giving you the satisfaction. You never seem to ask anyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 But now I'm having the satisfaction that you're making things up, Drax. Is that what you want? One little piccy of your Pana playing Godzilla can take that satisfaction away. It is in your hands ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Why would someone lie about owning a TV? You make it sound like I claimed I keep the Ark of the Covenant in my house. There were plenty more expensive TVs in 2013 that I passed over in favour of the VT60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Godzilla said: Why would someone lie about owning a TV? You tell me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 It's not the bloody Shroud of Turin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Pana, Canon, Porsche, Trump, Godzilla, Patrick Swayze ... it all could be part of your internet persona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 All true except for Porsche and Swayze. I haven't even seen Dirty Dancing, but I love the song dubbed over the Trump/Clinton debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Alexcremers said: You tell me! I'll wager he doesn't own those Trump baseball caps either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 You've seen them on my Facebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 5/13/2017 at 8:41 AM, Jay said: So would that $600 Panasonic I could get have HDR, or no? No it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 7 hours ago, Godzilla said: Why would someone lie about owning a TV? The above posted photo is actually an elaborate photoshop combining various elements of my internet persona: Star Trek, Titanic, film scores and Sony Trinitrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 17 hours ago, Selina Kyle said: The above posted photo is actually an elaborate photoshop combining various elements of my internet persona: Star Trek, Titanic, film scores and Sony Trinitrons. Fake! There's no E.T. anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 On 5/14/2017 at 9:30 AM, Koray Savas said: No it doesn't. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm not really big into E.T. anymore. I'll always love it, but I've reached the phase where I don't care to revisit the film, as with the old Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 No point in living in the past. Best to look to future films like Batman Returns and Titanic. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Isnt Always a better film than E.T.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 7 hours ago, Stefancos said: Isnt Always a better film than E.T.? Never. Well, maybe sometimes. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Yesterday I saw the new Sony OLED models (55" and 65"). Playing was a typical 4K demo and bits of Passengers which looked way better on my secondhand Samsung Plasma, BTW. Yes, as on all TVs, the typical 4K HDR demo looked incredible but that doesn't mean a thing. Typical demo images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Alien would look great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 You mean Alien Covenant, right? As for looking great, I first have to see it before I believe it. Maybe it's the settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 With its persistent darkness and bright whites, the original Alien looks best on a Sony Trinitron. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Yawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Selina Kyle said: With its persistent darkness and bright whites, the original Alien looks best on a Sony Trinitron. It was the peak if television engineering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 The only TV technology that sorta looks looks tube TV is Plasma. BTW, when it comes to IQ, it seems that the OLED TV has already reach it technological ceiling: The only difference between the 2016 and 2017 models is purely cosmetic. And for that you pay almost twice the price. Hahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 RCA. It has a nice screen if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 It's an evil technology in the cineplexes but maybe it suitable for home entertainment systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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