crocodile 8,114 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Which version do you prefer? I'm referring to both concert versions heard on albums.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,738 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The children's chorus version. To my mind it somehow fits the nostalgic rather innocent tone of the song better. In other words it is a children's carol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 I actually prefer the adult version. There is something more somber about it, which tones down the sugary theme a notch.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,738 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I actually prefer the adult version. There is something more somber about it, which tones down the sugary theme a notch.KarolTo each his own I guess. To me the adult version is a tad too dramatic and has indeed that slight solemn undertone that doesn't quite have the same effect on me as the children's chorus.None the less both will be heard at my house during Christmas. I just bought the Joy to the World Boston Pops album which features the adult chorus and both Home Alone and Home Alone 2 are staples in my Christmas music repertoire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,573 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Oddly enough I was just discussing this with my girlfriend last night. (We were listening to a Christmas channel on Pandora, and both versions came on). I prefer the children's version, and she prefers the adult version! For me it's probably because I was used to the original children's version for years and years before I ever got the Home Alone 2 CD, but for her she feels adults singing those lyrics make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 I actually prefer the adult version. There is something more somber about it, which tones down the sugary theme a notch.KarolTo each his own I guess. To me the adult version is a tad too dramatic and has indeed that slight solemn undertone that doesn't quite have the same effect on me as the children's chorus.None the less both will be heard at my house during Christmas. I just bought the Joy to the World Boston Pops album which features the adult chorus and both Home Alone and Home Alone 2 are staples in my Christmas music repertoire.By the way, Joy to the World contains what I think is a superior version of Star of Bethlehem - less bombastic and more.... again... somber.I like somber. Maybe that's why The Book Thief appeals to me so much.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,738 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I actually prefer the adult version. There is something more somber about it, which tones down the sugary theme a notch.KarolTo each his own I guess. To me the adult version is a tad too dramatic and has indeed that slight solemn undertone that doesn't quite have the same effect on me as the children's chorus.None the less both will be heard at my house during Christmas. I just bought the Joy to the World Boston Pops album which features the adult chorus and both Home Alone and Home Alone 2 are staples in my Christmas music repertoire.By the way, Joy to the World contains what I think is a superior version of Star of Bethlehem - less bombastic and more.... again... somber.Karol Star of Bethlehem is of course a more solemn and introspective and melancholy piece (somehow Christmas time brings together joyous celebration and this sense of somber reflection often associated with being alone) but the orchestra and chorus version brings it to a strangely effective melodramatic crescendo that impresses by its sheer rise and those clashing dissonances Williams quite adventurously introduces in that apex (also present in the fully orchestral version. There is something very powerful about the whole piece and the way it combines very dramatic turns and solemnity. Quite brilliant.I also like the much more humble sounding original version from Home Alone as well. Quite a different effect when sung by the children's chorus with subtle organ accompaniment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,513 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 You should add the version from "Joy To The World" CD (BPO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,710 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I don't really have an opinion on "Somewhere in My Memory", which I've never really been a fan of in the first place, but the rendition of "Star of Bethlehem" (a far superior song) is much better in HOME ALONE 2 than the first one. More gravitas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 You should add the version from "Joy To The World" CD (BPO).Yes, but that is not a recording from film sessions. I only stick to those here.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Lovett 6,507 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Obviously, the original version. It's meant to have a children's chorus.The Home Alone 2 version is...fine. But that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I've heard the children's choir version so much that I currently prefer the HA2 version, if only for the variety. Not sure which one is better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,815 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I just noticed yesterday what the difference was in both versions (i was compiling a 'chritsmas cd'). I noticed all the reprised songs in HA2 were sung by adult choir while in the 1st film it was children choir.I prefer children's voices for the carols. And star of bethelem ends ominous and scary in HA2, while it is fine in one.EDIT: and i just noticed that the HA version has adult male backup choir in the background... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The children's choir version. Feels much more like Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 OK then, let me rephrase it for you: which is less bad? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 The one with the little children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 The original. It just seems.....right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Btw this reminds me, I heard some pop version of this song at a drug store a few weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Good question. Both have different feels that have their own strengths. The children's chorus is more traditional and innocent but there is a, well, maturity to the adult chorus that captures another side of the Christmas season, more melancholic. I definitely prefer the adult chorus with "Star of Bethlehem", which is the piece I prefer honestly. I actually like "Christmas Star" more as well, also a more somber piece. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I prefer the children's choir version. The HA2 version just feels different, I'd dare to say it's more mature than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 What's wrong with mature?Good question. Both have different feels that have their own strengths. The children's chorus is more traditional and innocent but there is a, well, maturity to the adult chorus that captures another side of the Christmas season, more melancholic. I definitely prefer the adult chorus with "Star of Bethlehem", which is the piece I prefer honestly. I actually like "Christmas Star" more as well, also a more somber piece. I agree this is exactly what gets me. The children version is just to saccharine for my tastes. Christmas carols from where I come from (originally) are much more, as you say, melancholic.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 What's wrong with mature?There is nothing wrong with that. I actually think the adult choir version is more interesting in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,247 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Any version of "Star of Bethlehem". Mari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,738 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 What's wrong with mature?Good question. Both have different feels that have their own strengths. The children's chorus is more traditional and innocent but there is a, well, maturity to the adult chorus that captures another side of the Christmas season, more melancholic. I definitely prefer the adult chorus with "Star of Bethlehem", which is the piece I prefer honestly. I actually like "Christmas Star" more as well, also a more somber piece. I agree this is exactly what gets me. The children version is just to saccharine for my tastes. Christmas carols from where I come from (originally) are much more, as you say, melancholic.KarolI don't hear much melancholy in either version of Somewhere in My Memory. Nostalgia perhaps but very little melancholy. Star of Bethlehem on the other hand covers that type of Christmas carol perfectly. And I should know, Finnish Christmas carols are very full of melancholy, probably some of the most melancholic in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Make sure you share some when the time is upon us next week!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,738 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 An example (my own quick translation):Hey little elfs now jump for joy,it is time again for great gladness.Life it lasts but short a while,and most of it is so dark and vile.So little elfs now jump for joy,it is time again for great gladness. (Elf here is perhaps equivalent of a Finnish tonttu, a Santa's little helper and a figure of our folk lore before this Father Christmas business, who looks like a smaller version of the jolly santa with a hood and red clothing)The song is very cheerful and it actually just means that you should celebrate as life is short so you should seize the moment and be happy but it sounds rather morbid all the same. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,513 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 While listening to my original CD of Home Alone, I wanted to know more about the Expanded Edition and even buy it (a Christmas medley on it seems very interesting...)Well, to discover that it's been issued on La-La Land... and currently Sold Out on their website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,573 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 It was a great expanded edition, superior presentation to the original album.It was released on November 26th, 2010, limited to 3,500 copies, and sold out on March 25th, 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,513 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Well well well, can we buy the mp3 on some websites?This "Sold Out" concept is so 2000... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,573 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,513 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 "We're doomed!" - C-3PO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,573 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 There are new, sealed copies available on Amazon.com for $19.99http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004F4CV5Y/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,513 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 There are new, sealed copies available on Amazon.com for $19.99http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004F4CV5Y/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=newOh Sorry, I did not make the search, because I was sure that this kind of release were only sold by the manufacturer, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,815 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 that`s a very good price for being Out of print! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,738 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Buy it while you can Bespin! As Jason said, it is a stellar release of this score! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,573 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Yea, the original OST is wildly out of order, misses some great little cues, and mixes 3 non-Williams non-Film-Music source songs into things. The LLL release is a fantastic listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Amen to both above posts, I say.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,513 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 On Amazon's marketplace, it may be a copy no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Not likely, they want good feedback, so the description needs to be very accurate. It's supposed sealed unused copy with barcode punched (a promo/free sent to someone, perhaps?). I say: get it now! You won't get it at better price than this.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Amazon is not eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 What do you mean?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,513 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm not afraid of Amazon itself, but anybody can sell on their marketplace. That price for a double-CD supposely SOLD OUT... it's suspect I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,114 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 The album has sold out in the speciality stores (like LLL, Intrada or SAE), but some copies might be still available elsewhere.This copy has a barcode punched out, so it wasn't supposed to be for sale originally. Probably someone got it as a promo or demo. Maybe someone got a free copy to review or something like that. Karol Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,513 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Oh, you know I already found it on the internet. Close Subject I prefer the Home Alone 1 version [EDIT] LLL and FSM should think about selling their future releases on-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,573 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Bespin, you have nothing to worry about. People don't Sell bootlegs on Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Yes that was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 That's a tough call... I prefer the original choral recording (the children's chorus), but like the orchestration better the way it's presented in HA2. Ultimately, I'd have to say the original - there's something about the upper registers in the Home Alone 2 version that feels off. My favorite iteration of the melody though would be "Listening to Carson." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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