Jay 37,373 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 This is hilarious. Did he think no one would notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I don't think he cares, nor does anyone else. All of his films have more or less the same action set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 I know, but this is literally shots from another movie some cgi robots added over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Since I never saw the Island it was fresh and new. I read the source novel to the Island and found it to be a fast read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 It's a Bay trademark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 This is pretty old news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Well, I hadn't heard about it before, so I doubt it's been discussed on JWFan before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 It's not really a big deal IMO. two very brief shots, on of them being digitally reworked. I think there were a few more re-used actually.Lots of movies use stock footage anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Should have had Horner do the score. Though to be fair, this used to be the standard in Golden Age Hollywood. The classic swashbucklers often reused battle scenes of the silent movies they were remakes of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I also think he had reused quite a lot of those establishing shots of the aircraft carrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Should have had Horner do the score.Though to be fair, this used to be the standard in Golden Age Hollywood. The classic swashbucklers often reused battle scenes of the silent movies they were remakes of.Many war films found recycle footage from previous ones of use stock or news footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Bay is just copying Woolie Reitherman! But to be fair, Disney was almost bankrupt during those days, and it's not like they were stealing other people's animation. They did it, so they can use their previous work whatever way they want. It's not that different to rotoscopong from live action reference, actually. As a kid I loved spotting these; I always saw it more as a sort of easter egg than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Interesting!But since this is not a case of re-using actual footage, how does it save money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 How does that save Disney money though? Maybe there's some aspect of hand drawn animation I'm clueless to but the only thing recycled are the character movements. Everything else is different.Oops Steef beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Well, it saves time using a choreography for a scene is you can reuse one instead of having to set up a brand new one I guess.Did they "trace" the new animation on top of the older ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Yeah, I believe that's what they did. I don't know the actual details on how they did it, but as far as I know in traditional animation pre-production and planning takes the most time and money out of the budget, so I guess that having these movements already planned and animated saved them a lot of time and therefore, money.And also, in traditional animation (even in the cheaper 70's days) you got a set of animators, the lead animator who does the key drawings in rough forms, and then comes the in-betweener who does the drawings in between the keys the top animator did. And after that, comes the clean-up guy, who takes the sketch or rough drawings and polishes the line and adjusts the character model to fit whitin the model sheet. I imagine that when reusing old animation, they could hand it over to the least skilled animator and just having him draw the new character over the old one, following the same movements. So there you don't have to do in-betweens as everything is already planned for you.At least that's how I've always viewed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 What is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 He read his "As a director..." line before the Samsung guy asked the question it was supposed to be in response to, then instead of saying it again after the Samsung guy asked the question, he got flustered, and the teleprompter was bouncing around trying to figure out what to do, so he took off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 When you gotta go, you gotta go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Whoopie doo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Unprofessional! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I recall Midway using footage from other films, namely Tora! Tora! Tora! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Yeah, the jeep hitting something on the tarmac and bouncing into a hangar which is hilarious because Midway Island NEVER had hangars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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