Jay 37,372 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Fox is doing fine with the X-Men movies, but Sony dropped the ball with Spider-man since Raimi left, and Fox can't seem to figure out what to do with Fantastic Four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Fox did very well except when it comes to continuity, which is the one thing that Marvel does very well now.I saw TAS and thought it was decent, but really havent been inspired to check out the second film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 I saw TAS and thought it was decent, but really havent been inspired to check out the second film.Yea, pretty much my thoughts. I mean, TASM1 wasn't what I'd call "good", but it wasn't a disaster of epic proportions or anything. Just completely forgettable, and retread too much of the original first film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I think the excellence of Spider-man 2 (Raimi) has blinded people a bit on how mediocre that trilogy is. SM2 is incredible (amazing, even ), the first is "okay" but not great, and the third is terrible.ASM is probably the best, in my opinion, behind Spidey 2.I doubt X-Men will ever go back to Marvel and the Fantastic Four is not a great property at this point, like film poison, and I find them uninteresting as characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 What I liked about TASM at the time was that it didnt have the maudlin melodramatic tone of the Raimi films. And the actors playing Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy were really excellent. And the Horner score.I think the excellence of Spider-man 2 (Raimi) has blinded people a bit on how mediocre that trilogy is.Spider-Man 2 is the best of that trilogy, but that still doesnt make it a very good film. IIRC it took 36 minutes for the actual plot to begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 All the Spider-Man films are sub-par, but Webb's film was the first that nailed the tone of the character down, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I still haven't seen the new Spidey flicks. Should I watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I loved the original Raimi Spider-man, moreso than either of his sequels or either of Webb's films. The melodrama worked for me (since I was a teenager at the time), and I don't feel that faithfulness to the tone of a comic book is necessary for an adapatation if the adaptation is internally tonally consistent.Amazing Spider-man 2 was a train wreck. The out-of-costume stuff with Peter and Gwen was pretty good (although I'm basically over the whole on-again-off-again thing that has been in the Spider-man films). I was happy that the relationship was so simple and positive in Webb's first). The Green Goblin stuff was pretty good as well. Electro was basically carbon-copied Riddler from Batman Forever. It was really awful. Rhino would have been a nice addition if his appearance was brief (like Scarecrow in TDK and TDKR) - basically if the 10 minute end-tag with him wasn't there. The movie was kind of formless in a way that I can't say I've ever seen a superhero movie be.I still haven't seen the new Spidey flicks. Should I watch?Amazing Spider-man is worth watching; its sequel is not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 NopeOkay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Is Marvel Planning A Secret Wars Movie?interestingIf you think about it, those two rumors almost fall perfectly in place with the Secret Wars mega-event just announced for the comic division. Marvel runs the Secret Wars comic event in 2015, builds brand recognition and excitement with comic-related merchandise. Avengers: Age of Ultron hits theaters in 2015. Then, Avengers 3 hits two years later in 2017 with Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man leading a different team of Avengers that doesn’t include Captain America, Thor, and Hulk. Of course, Captain America, Thor, and Hulk won't be out of site during this time, as they will each have their own solo movies. Then, either in 2018 or 2019, Marvel releases their biggest event movie ever called Secret Wars, which pulls together everyone who has been an Avenger, the Guardians of the Galaxy, and even Spider-Man. The Secret Wars is one of the few things that Marvel can do to create a movie that’s actually bigger than the Avengers team movies. And for those saying Sony would never do it, there’s always ways a deal could be struck. For one thing, having Spider-Man in such a big event picture would get fans more invested in the character and likely boost attendance for his solo movies. One other thing that tends to support this little piece of speculation is how Robert Downey Jr. has been behaving in recent appearances. Downey Jr. told Letterman he wasn’t going to do Iron Man 4, but he was going to do other stuff with Marvel. Downey Jr. has also constantly re-iterated that Marvel has a plan, but they are very "secretive" about it. Instead of doing Iron Man 4, Secret Wars could be the other "secretive" stuff with Marvel that Downey Jr. is talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 And then it all builds up to the opening credits of Fringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I can already smell that Patton Oswalt movie coming 20 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Bring on the saturation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 It is the Disney way. Aladdin, Tarzan, Lilo and Stitch, and The Lion King all got animated spinoff series. Some of the Marvel animated series have been excellent, so this makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Will it be canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 It will be T-canon (TV canon), which is above C-canon (Comic canon) but below M-canon (Movie canon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Uh huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I think the excellence of Spider-man 2 (Raimi) has blinded people a bit on how mediocre that trilogy is. SM2 is incredible (amazing, even ), the first is "okay" but not great, and the third is terrible.I love the entire trilogy (yes, even Spider-Man 3). It has a perfect blend of humor and drama. The same can't be said for TASM, which is a mopey, joyless film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 Rumor of the day: Will Spider-Man join the Avengers on screen? That's a tangled web ...And furthermore, Sony might have dropped Garfield from the Spider-man role, and will use The Sinister Six movie they have coming out in 2016 as yet ANOTHER reboot of the Spider-man characterhttp://www.movieweb.com/spider-man-reboot-cast-sinister-six-venom-movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 It seems Civil War might be in the cards for Phase 3 after all. Plus, Downey Jr. joins Cap 3 - I guess it's time to see him playing a "villain"?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Getting Robert Downey Jr. back for Captain America 3 just seems like a reactionary shot from Marvel Studios at WB's Batman v. Superman, like they're saying "Hah, Batman versus Superman? With Wonder Woman? Pffft, we got Tony Stark versus Steve Rogers!"Very disappointed they're going with the "Civil War" arc, and putting Bucky on the sidelines. It's a shame, the Bucky/Steve B-plot helped make Captain America: The Winter Soldier so enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Marvel has things so planned out, and I doubt they feel threatened by DC movie properties at this point, to be that reactionary towards BvS. They're an extremely confident studio right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 I don't get why Marvel would go with Civil War before Thanos / Infinity Stones stuff. I mean, why include Thanos in Avengers 1 and GOTG, and have the 4 of the 6 stones on-screen between Avengers, Thor 2, and GOTG if you're not planning on paying off the Thanos / Inifinity Stones stuff in Avengers 3?Or will their version of Civil War be entirely contained within Captain America 3?And finally, does Captain American 3 shifting it's focus toward being a Cap/Iron Man movie push Black Widow and Hawkeye into their own movie, perhaps (hopefully?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Interesting article Captain America’ For Best Picture? Why Its Directors Think The Academy Needs To Take Comic Book Movies Seriouslyhttp://deadline.com/2014/10/oscars-captain-america-best-picture-comic-book-movies-861019/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Only arty dramas are eligible for Best Picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I seem to remember this same sort of conversation happening when Dark Knight was snubbed. Good quality film, well reviewed, popular, raked in the dough, but not respected enough for a Best Picture nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Marvel just announced their full Phase 3 lineup at a press conference. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1Dfm2GCMAAEx2K.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 More info.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 OK, let's see how close I got....2015:May 1: Avengers: Age of UltronJuly 17: Ant-Man2016:May 6: Captain America 3July 8: Doctor Strange When did Marvel move this to November 4 for some reason?2017:May 5: Thor 3 I was basically right, Marvel just swapped two dates, as GOTG2 is now here!July 28: Guardians of the Galaxy 2 Now this is Thor 3 because of the date swap!Nov. 3: Black Widow/Hawkeye Nope! Black Panther!2018:May 4: Avengers 3 Yup!July 6: The Inhumans Almost! Captain Marvel is here now!Nov. 2: Incredible Hulk And here's where The Inhumans ended up!2019:May 3:Doctor Strange 2 Nope! Randomly, Avengers 4 is here!So Marvel and Disney don't want to give Scarlet her own Marvel movie, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I think this was a reaction to DC's title announcement the past week and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 I found clean versions of all the new logos Too bad Hulk and Scarlett J don't get their own movies And this confirms Avengers 3 is a Thanos / Infinity Stones movie, of course. And that it is being split into 2 films as was rumored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Them releasing their Captain Marvel movie in 2018 is a direct response to DC releasing their Captain Marvel movie (titled Shazam and starring Dwayne The Rock Johnson) in 2019, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Anyways, the Marvel movie is about a character named Carol Danvers, so it's probably hard to confuse her for The Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Who's Captain Marvel and the Inhumans? And why is "Civil War" bigger than "Captain America" in the title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Civil War was a major storyline in Marvel comics in which Captain America and Iron Man clash over a superhero registration act. Stark wants everyone to register, so Cap goes rogue and, I think, gets arrested at the end (or something). Anyway, it was a big event in the universe, that's why the title is so... important. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Them releasing their Captain Marvel movie in 2018 is a direct response to DC releasing their Captain Marvel movie (titled Shazam and starring Dwayne The Rock Johnson) in 2019, I'd say.That's the only Marvel film in that announcement that has me excited. But then Wonder Woman will have beaten her to the big screen by about a year, if the WW date for June 23, 2017 holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Civil War was a major storyline in Marvel comics in which Captain America and Iron Man clash over a superhero registration act. Stark wants everyone to register, so Cap goes rogue and, I think, gets arrested at the end (or something). Anyway, it was a big event in the universe, that's why the title is so... important. KarolTony Stark couldn't stand Shield, so why would he advocate government registration? What is he some kind of a communist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Civil War was a major storyline in Marvel comics in which Captain America and Iron Man clash over a superhero registration act. Stark wants everyone to register, so Cap goes rogue and, I think, gets arrested at the end (or something). Anyway, it was a big event in the universe, that's why the title is so... important. KarolTony Stark couldn't stand Shield, so why would he advocate government registration? What is he some kind of a communist?Possibly something in Age of Ultron might change his stance. I'm speculating here, of course. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Why is Marvel making these huge movies with stars that were nobodies before, but not greenlighting one starring world wide superstar Scarlet Johansson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Because female-led superhero movies have a history of bombing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Elektra. Catwoman. Supergirl. OK. But wasn't Lucy essentially a female superhero movie starring ScarJo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I guess I'm gonna be seeing Marvel movies for the rest of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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