Uni 306 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Many. (Too many, it seems sometimes. . . .) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Sylvia? Jurij? A Man Called Horse? Heartsounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 None of those, no. But East of Eden, Rebel Without A Cause, Sybil, Fantastic Voyage, his two Planet of the Apes scores, Barry Lyndon, Cross Creek, Robocop 2 (his personal low point), and of course Lord of the Rings. Don't get me wrong; I never said Rosenman was a bad composer. He created a number of fine works, some of which I've always been fond of. But I stand by the statement that got you so ruffled up to start with: it all sounds very much alike. His orchestration and instrumentation choices were extremely distinctive, and never really evolved. East of Eden, one of his first scores, has the same acoustic patina as Star Trek IV some thirty years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think all the Trek film scores are fantastic. Well the Giacchino's don't hold up that much to the original 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 They don't hold up at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Why? Why are the Giacchino scores so panned? I thought they were admirable enough efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,645 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 They're okay scores but they don't really seem to fit in with the rest. At least to my (meager) knowledge of Star Trek. They're also kind of overrated around the internet from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 They're alright. I enjoy STID more than ST 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 They're alright. I enjoy STID more than ST 11Likewise. Why? Why are the Giacchino scores so panned? I thought they were admirable enough efforts. Some of it, especially STID but still...to me they're just not as memorable as the first 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhao1701 2 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I'd have to agree that VI is a pretty decent score and that IV does sound way too...happy/comical/cartoony for Star Trek. The reboot scores I don't care too much for mainly because I hear music that conveys emotion rather than music that IS the emotion. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Thats an interesting way of putting it. Those Gia scores really do lather it up, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I hear music that conveys emotion rather than music that IS the emotion.This reads like the kind of BS that I post! Great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I hear music that conveys emotion rather than music that IS the emotion.This reads like the kind of BS that I post! Great stuff!Not this again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I hear music that conveys emotion rather than music that IS the emotion.This reads like the kind of BS that I post! Great stuff! I was curious about that statement, though. Not to be blunt, but . . . what the hell does it mean? How do you tell the difference between a "conveyor" and an . . . um . . . "iser?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Skylar conveys the danger. Walter is the danger. I got nothin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I don;t remember anything in Generations so that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Oddly reminds me of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I was curious about that statement, though. Not to be blunt, but . . . what the hell does it mean?http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24625#entry1025576 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 What a fucking windbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Y'know what? Makes sense now. I completely missed that thread the first time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Y'know what? Makes sense now. I completely missed that thread the first time around.And to think you used to the board's detective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 No kidding. Haven't worn that hat in years. (Hilarious that someone still remembers that. . . !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 the thread title is complicatedso my again answer is Undiscovered Country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 i'm really not paying attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Into Darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Maybe I should have gone with VI, but it has a lot of boring uninteresting music. Generations is pretty entertaining the whole way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Why? Why are the Giacchino scores so panned? I thought they were admirable enough efforts.because they are mediocre. A talent that we're told is so great in MG has had two chances to make a home run and instead doesn't even get to first base. His best music is his rehash of AC's theme. His London piece is quite good better than most of his original stuff but I really expected another WOK or SFS or FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I don't understand how, of all the material Giacchino composed for the two new films, the one moment that gets frequently mentioned, and in this case deemed an actual standout by Joey, is that boring old London Calling chord thingy. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yeah, strange. That's arguably the most dull piece he's written for the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,027 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I myself never liked that cue or theme...However, the way in which John Harrison's theme overwhelms (and, ultimately, hijacks) this tune in London Falling is really cool. Love how this emotional becomes more and more mechanical and cold. My favourite cue in the score, actually.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I don't understand how, of all the material Giacchino composed for the two new films, the one moment that gets frequently mentioned, and in this case deemed an actual standout by Joey, is that boring old London Calling chord thingy.JFC You guys have no taste. I understand the Zimmer lover but I thought KK had a bit of taste than gray. But overall Michael Gachino, no need for the silent letters to be used, is just not very good.Star trek 11 and 12 are the 11th and 12th best scores of the film franchise in some order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,645 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Am I the only one who likes Giacchino's Star Trek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Am I the only one who likes Giacchino's Star Trek?no. Jason Gray KK Uni and others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 JFC You guys have no taste. I understand the Zimmer lover but I thought KK had a bit of taste than gray. Am I the only one who likes Giacchino's Star Trek?no. Jason Gray KK Uni and othersYou got THAT from this?Yeah, strange. That's arguably the most dull piece he's written for the franchise.I've never really been a fan of Giacchino's ST scores, aside from a few cues here and there. You just pointed out London Calling as being good, which I found to be one of the most boring things he's written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 You certainly like it far more than I but I find the cues you like to be boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm 30 seconds into London Falling and I stopped it because it just sounds like some generic modern film/trailer music. I can't stand it. Should I press play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 It's a bizarrely generic piece. That's garnered a lot of bizarre attention. A friend of mine actually commented on it in the theater during the credits. He said it seems more "emotionally relevant" than, say, what Williams writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Indeed. I remember when the clip of it in concert was released, some fans here were crying "Hallelujah!" and how "brilliant" it was. Thought I was the only one who was hearing how bland it sounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Most dullest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Grammar whores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Careful, Steef might block you if you try to correct him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Shame on you! Ugly baby judges you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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