Bespin 8,483 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It is perhaps still too early to talk about this, but it must be done sooner or later, I mean to group all John Williams albums together in a coffret. For my part, I find that it would be interesting to do a Television and Film music coffret with the replica of all the original albums, all pre-digital tracks remastered from the original Master analog tapes. Any other ideas? Here is my suggestion for a first coffret of 50 CD, covering the 1960-1992 era. John Williams The Original Soundtracks Anthology (1960-1992) 50 CD CD1-1960 Checkmate CD2-1962 Diamond Head CD3-1966 How to Steal a Million CD4-1966 Not With My Wife, You Don't CD5-1966 Penelope CD6-1967 Fitzwilly CD7-1968 Heidi CD8-1968 Valley of the Dolls CD9-1969 Goodbye, Mr. Chips CD10-1969 The Reivers CD11-1971 Fiddler on the Roof CD12-1971 Jane Eyre CD13-1972 Images CD14-1973 Cinderella Liberty CD15-1973 The Cowboys CD16-1973 Tom Sawyer CD17-1974 Earthquake CD18-1975 The Eiger Sanction CD19-1975 Jaws CD20-1975 The Towering Inferno CD21-1976 The Missouri Breaks CD22-1977 Star Wars CD23-1977 Close Encounters of the Third Kind CD24-1978 Jaws 2 CD25-1978 Superman: The Movie CD26-1978 The Fury CD27-1979 1941 CD28-1979 Dracula CD29-1980 The Empire Strikes Back CD30-1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark CD31-1982 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial CD32-1982 Monsignor CD33-1983 Return of the Jedi CD34-1984 The River CD35-1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom CD36-1986 SpaceCamp CD37-1987 The Witches of Eastwick CD38-1987 Empire of the Sun CD39-1988 The Accidental Tourist CD40-1989 Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade CD41-1989 Born on the Fourth of July CD42-1990 Always CD43-1990 Stanley & Iris CD44-1990 Presumed Innocent CD45-1990 Home Alone CD46-1991 Hook CD47-1992 JFK CD48-1992 Far and Away CD49-1992 Home Alone 2 – Lost in New York CD50 +Singles and rarities: - Midway March - The Men Of The Yorktown March - If We Were in Love (by Luciano Pavarotti) - If We Were in Love (Instrumental) ... ___ A second coffret covering the 1993-20.. era, would contain 35 CD for now: John Williams The Original Soundtracks Anthology (1993-20..) CD1-1993 Jurassic Park CD2-1993 Schindler's List CD3-1995 Sabrina CD4-1995 Nixon CD5-1996 Sleepers CD6-1997 Rosewood CD7-1997 The Lost World: Jurassic Park CD8-1997 Seven Years in Tibet CD9-1997 Amistad CD10-1998 Saving Private Ryan CD11-1998 Stepmom CD12-1999 Star Wars – Episode I: The Phantom Menace CD13-1999 Angela's Ashes CD14-2000 The Patriot CD15-2001 A.I. – Artificial Intelligence CD16-2001 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone CD17-2002 Star Wars – Episode II: Attack of the Clones CD18-2002 Minority Report CD19-2002 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (conducted by William Ross) CD20-2002 Catch Me If You Can CD21-2004 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban CD22-2004 The Terminal CD23-2005 Star Wars – Episode III: Revenge of the Sith CD24-2005 War of the Worlds CD25-2005 Memoirs of a Geisha CD26-2005 Munich CD27-2008 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull CD28-2011 The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn CD29-2011 War Horse CD30-2012 Lincoln CD31-2013 The Book Thief CD32-2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens CD33-2016 The BFG CD34-2017 Star Wars: The Last Jedi CD35-2017 The Post ... The Adventures of Han (From Solo: Star Wars movie) (2018) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Why does SW and TESB get two CDs while none of his other many, many, many long scores do? Totally illogical Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Well he did say original albums. This exercise is moot because all expanded releases make the original albums obsolete. I don't know if Star Wars and TESB were originally double disc albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Star Wars, Superman, and TESB were double LPs that fit on one CD. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Oh, so now they're going to get two discs. Very economic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I've got most of these anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Wait a minute...............Where's The Poseidon Adventure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 First of all, this would never happen due to the insane rights issue problems.Second, your selection is a bit weird -- you have randomly included a non-film music album like RHYTHM IN MOTION there, but none of the other dozens of albums in same genre that he did? Surely, if such a project was feasible in the first place, you would at the very least want the film music, tv music, non-film music albums etc. to be in separate boxes. Perhaps also separate out those where he arranged rather than composed.You're also missing quite a few titles.Personally -- since I have every commercially available soundtrack JW ever did, and as long as we're talking dream projects -- I would much rather have a box with his unreleased scores, a box of his tv scores (perhaps just a box for ALCOA PREMIERE THEATRE, for example) and so on than a repeat of everything I have.But I applaud your willingness to preserve the original albums in new releases. Unlike someone else above, it is the expanded releases that I think are obsolete, not the original albums. Once and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 The main goal of this idea is to celebrate John Williams, is the expanded releases really celebrate John Williams or your uncontrollable and insane need to own everything? We can't re-write history, it's why I thinked about the "original albums" concept. A John Williams boxset will never include expanded releases, forget it.@JayOk, I wasn't sure if these original 2-Lps fits on 1 modern CD. Anyway in a "replica" concept, 1 LP = 1 CD. The goal is not to be "economical", but to reproduce the recto and verso of each original album. That could be fun, even for fans that own only CDs and not the original LPs.@RedBardMy concept is to reproduce "Original albums". @Drax, @ThorThis kind of coffret is usually made for lambda consumer, sure you already have everything... that's not the point.What missing titles? Original solo & studio albums only, conducted by John Williams, it's a coffret of HIS albums (I know, I've included Chamber of secrets... that's a beautiful exception, because it's an essential... that's life!).About the rights problems... Well, some compilations exists, so it's not impossible to achieve. The question is: is this kind of coffret can be profitable? You know, one day, all this will be in Public Domain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 It would be nifty, but in the end totally useless and likely impossibly expensive. It's the kind of collectible item affordable only by rich people who are probably more interested in the object itself than the actual music.I second the idea about a collection of Williams' early TV scores for anthology shows, even though I suspect we'll never see those released, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 It would be nifty, but in the end totally useless and likely impossibly expensive. It's the kind of collectible item affordable only by rich people who are probably more interested in the object itself than the actual music.I second the idea about a collection of Williams' early TV scores for anthology shows, even though I suspect we'll never see those released, sadly.Totally useless? Tell that to Sony and Universal that keeps making CD coffrets.Why John Williams could'nt have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Yes, totally useless because it would be simply old wine in a new (and uber-expensive) bottle. Most of JW admirers/collectors already have all those titles. If the point is to remaster and re-release the original albums (surely a good idea), then it would be better to do it individually for each title.Those mega-boxsets released by classical labels can be tempting just for compuslive collectors who buy again and again the same stuff, like the umpteenth version of Karajan's Beethoven cycle. It's a niche within a niche market, even though likely the only one who's still willing to spend several hundreds Euros/Dollars for such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 @TownerFanI don't know if you realize, but someone in 2015 that want to start a John Williams CD collection... well, he's going to jump in a real nightmare. My listing count actually 81 existing albums... where do you find them today?Some are very hard to find, if you are lucky you'll get them "used", but you'll not easily find all of them.That's not as simple as it seems.And those 80's and 90's CD... they all need new HD transfers and remasterisation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 John Williams and Steven Spielberg Music Box, contained in a mini replica of the Ark of the Covenant warehouse crate. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 @E.T. and ElliotlolThese days the coffrets are really cheap, each CD are usually in cardboard sleeves, or even cheapier in just a paper sleeve, that's why they can put 50-80 CD in a not to big box. I'm not complaining about that, it's more economical for us too.EDIT: Ooops, just removed "Rhythm in motion" from my list, I always thought it was a Soundtrack, my mistake :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 ... all tracks remastered from the original Master analog tapes.And for those recorded digitally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 ... all tracks remastered from the original Master analog tapes.And for those recorded digitally? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Record them onto tape and reconvert them back to digital. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yes, totally useless because it would be simply old wine in a new (and uber-expensive) bottle. Most of JW admirers/collectors already have all those titles. If the point is to remaster and re-release the original albums (surely a good idea), then it would be better to do it individually for each title.While it's a fun idea in theory, I gotta go with this take on it. The majority of the group who this would appeal to have all or most of these titles already, and wouldn't have the money to spend on filling out the rest of their collection by paying a huge bundle to get the last few missing scores.Actually, it would be cool if they sold this kind of thing as both the complete box sets and individual members of the larger groups—in other words, you could buy the single scores you're missing, or you could purchase the entire set at once. I don't know the feasibility of that approach, but it would certainly make it more marketable. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 John Williams and Steven Spielberg Music Box, contained in a mini replica of the Ark of the Covenant warehouse crate.My thoughts exactly! Just like how back in 2010, Warner Bros. released a limited quantity of the Burton & Elfman 25th Anniversary Music Box Collection.This time, it'll be the Spielberg & Williams 40th Anniversary Music Collection, and no sloppy craftsmanship. The contents would include:Soundtracks in Sleeves w/ colorful illustrationsJawsClose Encounters of the Third Kind1941Raiders of the Lost ArkE.T. The Extra TerrestrialIndiana Jones and the Temple of DoomEmpire of the SunIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeAlwaysHookJurassic ParkSchindler’s ListThe Lost WorldAmistadSaving Private RyanA.I. Artificial IntelligenceMinority ReportCatch Me If You CanThe TerminalWar of the WorldsMunichIndiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal SkullThe Adventures of TintinWar HorseLincolnWork Tapes & Demo TracksLimited Edition Disc of previously unreleased material w/ Williams’ Signature on the sleeve (First 1000 sets only)PropsCoffee table book filled with Liner Notes written by experts <<< I mean you guysDVD with Interview between Williams and SpielbergMovie prop item from one of the movies listed above (Piece of Harrison Ford's leather jacket from any of the Indy films?)Any other suggestions?Still trying to figure out what kind of container to put it in. I wanna say the Ark of the Covenant, but I'm open to other ideas, too. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Thanks RedBard, it's the kind of post I was waiting for. It would be a great coffret, maybe more commercial than a complete Soundtrack Anthology, but who knows!If this coffret contains the remastered original albums of Jaws and E.T., I would buy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 @TownerFanI don't know if you realize, but someone in 2015 that want to start a John Williams CD collection... well, he's going to jump in a real nightmare. My listing count actually 81 existing albums... where do you find them today?Some are very hard to find, if you are lucky you'll get them "used", but you'll not easily find all of them.That's not as simple as it seems.And those 80's and 90's CD... they all need new HD transfers and remasterisation!If anyone wants to start a John Williams collection right now, it seems to me there is quite a good number of titles readily available to buy, both physical and digital, be it regular OST releases or expanded ones by specialty labels. Sure, there isn't everything available, but it takes time to build a comprehensive collection. You can't have everything in just one shot, unless you have lots of money to spend for these things pronto.I understand that fans dream of these kind of deluxe releases all the time and maybe one day something along these lines will be released. But frankly I'm not that interested. My JW CD collection is already pretty large and comprehensive. I look forward much more to new John Williams music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I've built up a large and comprehensive collection. It's just a matter of filling some gaps here and there. Often I want the OSTs and any expanded editions to have a more complete history of how the music has been treated on album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 RedBard you forgot 1941, Always, The Lost World, Amistad, Minority Report, The Terminal, War of the Worlds, Indiana Jones 4.... .what up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Dust collectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 RedBard you forgot 1941, Always, The Lost World, Amistad, Minority Report, The Terminal, War of the Worlds, Indiana Jones 4.... .what up with that?Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 RedBard you forgot 1941, Always, The Lost World, Amistad, Minority Report, The Terminal, War of the Worlds, Indiana Jones 4.... .what up with that?Fixed. That'll make a bigger Ark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 That's right. The music collection coffret would be in the shape of the Ark of the Covenant, with the logo title of the collection on the frontispiece.How's this for a description?=================================================================Universal Studios proudly presents...The Limited Edition Steven Spielberg & John Williams 40th Anniversary Music Box Collection!Casing- Original casing crafted to look like the Ark of the Covenant from Raiders of the Lost Ark ~ Built-in music chip that plays "The Map Room Dawn" when the casing is opened (hinged lid; music chip can be switched on and off) Contents- 26 soundtracks from Jaws to Lincoln, each in a soft sleeve with original album art- Limited Edition Bonus CD #27 signed by John Williams himself- DVD with interviews and conversations with Spielberg & Williams (and Easter Eggs, too)- From Sharks to Dinosaurs: 40 years of Steven Spielberg & John Williams, a 10x10, 300+ page book of liner notes w/ foreword by Harrison Ford- A USB drive in the shape of Marion Ravenwood's Medallion stocked with all of the material on the CDs (not to scale)=================================================================It's a start. I might need to tweak some parameters some smore. But right now, this is just a proof of concept. What do you think so far? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Good God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Yes, that's just what the Hebrews thought. Wojo and Gnome in Plaid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 The JWFan Forums speak of this collection leveling the competition and laying waste to FSM board members. An army which carries this music collection before him/her is invincible to musical criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It belongs in a museum. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 The bastards at Sony Classical would surely enchant it with a divine spell causing everyone taking any CD out of it to be instantly electrocuted, leaving the box behind for them to recollect.Then again, what are they going to do with all the recollected arks? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 FINALLY! Finally, after years and years waiting for it to be made available, all this unreleased music is now in my possession!!! I CAN'T FREAKING WAIT TO LISTEN TO ALL OF IT!!! Let's open this box set... Wait... What's that? What the.... ARGHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 It belongs in a museum.So do you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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