BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'm a sucker for Marsden playing dumb and/or clueless guys. He's so good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Ah, well, if you look at it this way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 51 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Hopkins is great but by far my favorite performances are from Jeffrey Wright, James Marsden, Thandie Newton, and Evan Rachel Wood. I'd give all 4 of them Emmies if I could. I know right? Hopkins is great, and DOES deserve a lot of lauding, but hot damn, Wright, Wood, and yes even Marsden are SO GOOD on the show too (and Ed Harris! And whatever the name is of the person playing the manager lady! etc!) I'd say Thandie Newton is least good out of all the major characters, actually. And her storyline the most dragged out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jay said: I'd say Thandie Newton is least good out of all the major characters, actually. And her storyline the most dragged out. I guess I should spoiler tag this. Spoiler I found Newton's performance so effective and heartbreaking when she was playing the tug of war between her "old" programming (the death of daughter at the hands of Harris) and her "new" awakened self. Personally, I thought she played that wonderfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yes, I finally came around to appreciating her in the final episodes for sure. And I'm not saying she's bad, just that I preferred the acting by all the other leads, and the stories all the other main characters got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Also, I would imagine playing so many emotionally important scenes while completely nude is not an easy thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yea... again, not saying she was bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 11 hours ago, Quintus said: Nah I'm definitely going to try it, because of Anthony Hopkins. It's flawed, but entertaining. And Hopkins alone is reason enough to watch it. He's brilliant in this. He actually seemed rather invested in this role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 That's TV for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 It's not TV. It's HBO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Cool trailer! Muad'Dib and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 S2? I haven't seen one micron of S1! The series just doesn't seem to come my way somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Wow! Really cool trailer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 New trailer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Nice, looking forward to season 2... season 1 was one of the best tv seasons of 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulocf 79 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Anyone watching the second season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Yeah, my house has been keeping up with it. Just not moved to comment about it so far. It’s alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 We haven't started season 2 yet. Does anybody know if HBO Go / HBO Now offers it in 4K if you have a 4K TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I’m finding this season much more satisfying than season 1. Much better at stringing along the mystery without seeming unfocused and confusing. And it’s much clearer how the different timelines/strands relate to one another. It’s stronger episode to episode for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 This week's episode had a cool big battle scene. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 This weekend we finally found time to begin the new season! If you want to talk about more recent episodes than I've seen, please just give me a head's up if you're gonna spoil something I don't know yet Westworld 2x01 Journey into Night OK, holy cow. Even with a GENEROUSLY lengthy season 1 recap to begin the episode, I was struggling to remember all the details of season 1 and where we left off with everyone. Took me a while to really get back into the swing of things here! I loved the flashforward that opened and closed the episode, showing Bernard waking up on a beach and trying to figure out with some new characters how most of the hosts died. The bulk of the episode that picked up after the hosts revolted in the park and killed Ford and revolted in the control room and killed most everyone there was good too. I enjoyed seeing Dolores the badass, Maeve in control, Ed Harris being a badass, and Bernard trying to keep up with Charlotte and not reveal to her he's a host. I was a bit confused about the clear goo that came out of his ear at one point though, and how he had to syringe some goo out of that other Host and inject it into himself. Was I supposed to understand that or is it something that gets explained later? Don't hosts have red "blood" too? EDIT: OK I guess it's just coolant or whatever for his "brain"/cpu that was overheating, and if he got shot in the chest or something, that'd still be red. I get it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I just call it brain goo. This season has gotten stronger with every episode for me. Well, until episode 6 which was a bit jumbled. But still lots of cool stuff even then. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Anyone else like how the parts of Arnold's memories are in anamorphic? Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Latest episode was brilliant, things seem to be ramping up to catch up with the flash-forward/flash-back timelines. Also, Djawadi's scores for each episode seem to be just tracked music, but the last few have featured some nice underscore here and there, especially concerning Maeve. Everyone went crazy for GoT, but this show, from its execution to the production design and acting have all been top-notch, far better than GoT in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Westworld 2x02 Reunion Well, that was pretty good! I was a bit bummed there was no continuation at all of the "flash forward" storyline (Bernard after the Hosts are found dead in the lake), and the "present" storyling (picking up after the season 1 finale massacre) was mostly just OK, but the flashbacks were great! In the present storyline, we got a scene of Dolores intimidating people in a control room, blah blah. I didn't really like this, I liked Dolores MUCH more in all her flashback scenes this week. Her talking with Arnold is always great. We got a small bit of Maeve as she crossed paths with Dolores's crew, which was kind of nice in showing they have similar but different agendas. And the best present day storyline was Ed Harris trying to get some Confederatos to join him, only to find out Ford was one step ahead of him as always. Giancarlo Esposito was great in this scene! I had no idea he'd joined the show, that was a pleasant surprise (of course, this could easily be his only appearance). All the flashbacks were great! You got Logan Delos being wowwed by not being able to figure out everyone in the hotel room was a Host, and Arnold taking Delores out of the room because she wasn't ready and them having a nice conversation, and her getting to observe the real world. Later, you got William persuading Papa Delos to invest, which was were the most intriguing information of the season was revealed, that kind of explains what I think the crux of the season will be about: The theme park for robots is just a premium gateway to get people in, when Delos' real goal is to collect information from them (and as we leaned last week from Bernard, DNA as well). On the surface it sounds like William is saying it would be for optimal marketing to get maximum money out of every client, but I'm sure there's more to it than that. This is made more explicit later, when Logan is high off something at his dad's retirement party and tells Dolores that humanity is now doomed. Great stuff! I'm glad we're getting more sci-fi in this sci-fi show. The final bit where it was revealed William greenlit a project to terraform a section of the park, and that that was where both Dolores AND Ed Harris are heading was pretty intriguing. Is it supposed to be the same area that is a lake filled with dead Host bodies in the flashforward timeline? Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 They're toned down the nudity lately. Thankfully because I was sick of seeing all these ugly dicks everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Westworld 2x03 Virtù e Fortuna Was happy to see a continuation of the "flash forward" timeline, though not much happened other than revealing Charlotte won't die. In the present timeline, it was nice to see Dolores talk to Bernard knowing what he really is, and interesting to reveal the state that the Peter Abernathy Host is in (full of encrypted data Bernard can't hack). Makes you wonder if hiding the data in a Host is really the best way for Delos to sneak it out! The big battle that takes place near the end of the episode was pretty good, though a bit silly that some Delos guys where able to sneak in and steal Peter's body without Dolores realizing until it was too late. In Maeve's storyline, she ran into some of those native american black/white paint guys, and she couldn't control them. So are they not part of Ford's game? It was surprising that they then bumped into that tattoo-faced lady, who had been holding Felix and Sylvester (still love their character names). I definitely just assumed they were killed into the massacre! Nice ending where they get attacked by a Samurai, more indication that because of Ford's plan the parks are intermingling. Oh yea, and the episode was bookended by new characters in some kind of jungle park, where the female has to outrun a bengal tiger (how do you outrun a freaking tiger? Poorly programmed?). Of course she ends up by the beach we saw in the first episode where they find the tiger body however many weeks later the flash forwards are. Looking forward to learning more about this new character; She seemed to have some sort of plan to do some sort of subterfuge with the male character. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I wish you were all caught up Jason! I can’t really discuss episodes from weeks ago knowing where it’s going from there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 We should be caught up soon; nothing else to watch this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 This week's episode was a doozy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 It was great, you fool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 It was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Zzzzzzzzz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 You just hate it because I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 You overestimate your influence on me, Drax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I feel the good in you... the conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Westworld 2x04 The Riddle of the Sphinx Well, that was awesome! The series of flashbacks showing how Williams was trying to create a Host that actually ran some kind of.... recording? of James Delos' memories and personality was pretty neat, though not a surprise that it never worked and William eventually, once looking like Ed Harris seemingly very close to the main timeline of the show, decides to stop trying entirely. The other set of flashbacks that showed that just before Ford was killed, he sent Bernard in there to retrieve another recording thingy of some other human (presumably his own, I would guess) and then kill everyone there was also done well. Of course the question is, did Ford let himself be shot by Dolores because he knew he could come back as a Host, or was what Dolores shot actually the host and the real Ford is still alive? (Probably not since maggots were eating his corpse in a recent episode and you saw real brain). Ed Harris continuing on his path West while getting another message from Ford at the end was fine, but being paired with all the other more interesting stories this week made that one feel weaker. The woman from the jungle park that survived the tiger that end sup running away from the weird black/white native american dudes and revealing herself to be William's daughter at the end was neat. No continuation at all of last week's cliffhanger ending of a samurai robot charging towards Maeve? Next week, hopefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 We’re certainly meant to think it’s a software copy of Delos’ consciousness itself, not just his memories, if you want to make a distinction between the two. It just degrades when printed to a physical host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I like an earlier episode when he calls him a "cheeky little cunt". Hehehe, they said the c-word on a TV show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 16 hours ago, Disco Stu said: We’re certainly meant to think it’s a software copy of Delos’ consciousness itself, not just his memories, if you want to make a distinction between the two. It just degrades when printed to a physical host. But Stu I didn't just say "memories", I said "memories and personality". Isn't that basically what a consciousness is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Jay said: Isn't that basically what a consciousness is? Well I guess that's one of the questions Westworld wants you to ponder! Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Yes, and the latest episode in particular tries to ruminate on that. The show's thesis seems to be leaning more toward the idea that consciousness is more than memories and personality; these can easily be simulated (i.e. "backstory"). True consciousness is the ability to grow beyond the shackles of the past, and one of the show's conceits is that most humans don't use that ability nearly as much as they could. Thoughts on latest ep: Spoiler Ford seems to have "uploaded" himself onto the Cradle. But now that it's been destroyed, does he still exist? Why is Bernard still seeing him even after leaving the Cradle? Is he now sharing Bernard's body? I don't think the show would go in that direction, but it's interesting nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Docteur Qui said: Yes, and the latest episode in particular tries to ruminate on that. The show's thesis seems to be leaning more toward the idea that consciousness is more than memories and personality; these can easily be simulated (i.e. "backstory"). True consciousness is the ability to grow beyond the shackles of the past, and one of the show's conceits is that most humans don't use that ability nearly as much as they could. Thoughts on latest ep: Hide contents Ford seems to have "uploaded" himself onto the Cradle. But now that it's been destroyed, does he still exist? Why is Bernard still seeing him even after leaving the Cradle? Is he now sharing Bernard's body? I don't think the show would go in that direction, but it's interesting nonetheless. I found this more the be that Ford's transcended the cradle and he's like God who exists in the hosts' hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Westworld 2x05 Akane no Mai Well, that was certainly the weakest episode of the season, but still had plenty of good stuff. I realize there's a pattern now where the odd-numbered episodes feature flashforwards to Bernard and the Delos team figuring out what's up with all the dead hosts, and the even episodes do not. This was the shortest flashforward yet, that barely revealed any new info (only that 1/3 of the hosts had no consciousness inside), making it feel somewhat obligatory. For about 2/3 of the episode, Dolores was more like her old self again which was wonderful, then at the end when she betrayed Teddy she was back to being mopy again. Oh well. The bulk of the episode, and also ultimately the least interesting part, with the Maeve storyline in the Samurai world. It started out great, with the wonderful location shots, and the great version of Paint It Black, etc. But then it just got kinda boring when we were supposed to care about these brand new characters and whether or not they lived or died, when they'll are just robots anyway. It doesn't help that I don't find Maeve as interesting as most of the other Hosts, and her quest to find her daughter feels wayyy more dragged out than any other storyline. I didn't like that this whole Shogun plot didn't resolve in one episode either, ending on another cliffhanging as another fight is about to begin. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Jay said: when they'll are just robots anyway. Haha, I guess we know where you stand on at least one of the show's central philosophical questions!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 "And now we use it..." Cool delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Margo Channing said: I found this more the be that Ford's transcended the cradle and he's like God who exists in the hosts' hearts. Oooh yes, I like that! Really speaks to his god-complex storyline, and creates some future conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, Docteur Qui said: Spoiler Ford seems to have "uploaded" himself onto the Cradle. But now that it's been destroyed, does he still exist? Why is Bernard still seeing him even after leaving the Cradle? Is he now sharing Bernard's body? I don't think the show would go in that direction, but it's interesting nonetheless. I took it as though... Spoiler Ford's code had infected Bernard's mind egg, sort of like a virus. 11 minutes ago, Jay said: Well, that was certainly the weakest episode of the season... I thought so, too. I was surprised when most of the responses that I saw were ecstatic about the episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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