Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2018 I like working on isolated score videos! See the Williams edition of the thread here! http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/28480-disco-stus-isolated-score-videos-john-williams-edition/ But hey, I also like film composers who are not John Williams! This thread is for those people. Back to the Future Part III (Alan Silvestri) Spoiler Here is the full train sequence from Back to the Future Part III, all 3 cues. They must have had the final edit for BTTF3 locked down early, because I'm pretty sure I had to make ZERO micro-edits of Silvestri's score for the whole movie. Every track could just be laid straight over the picture pretty much. The Train Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (James Horner) Spoiler Prologue and Main Title Klingons (Part 1) Klingons (Part 2, Arrival at Spacedock) Spock's Cabin The Klingon's Plan The Mind-Meld Stealing the Enterprise Grissom Destroyed Sunset on Genesis Spock Endures Pon Farr Bird of Prey Decloaks A Fighting Chance to Live Genesis Destroyed Returning to Vulcan The Katra Ritual End Titles Willow Spoiler Elora Danan Willow's Journey Part 1 Note of explanation for Willow's Journey Part 1: I'm fairly sure that the last 15-30 seconds of the 3m1 cue on the soundtrack (2:06 - 2:40 in the OST track) is an alternate from the film version, which is why I cut to the film audio for the last bit of the video above. I probably could have stayed with the first 15 seconds of that bit as isolated score as it's really just the last 15 seconds in the film that's different from the OST. Oh well. If it's not an alternate, then it's tracking in music from somewhere that is not on the OST so I couldn't recreate the edit. But I think it's an alternate. Willow's Journey Part 2 Escape from the Tavern Canyon of Mazes Tir Asleen Part 1 Tir Asleen Part 2 Bavmorda's Spell is Cast Part 1 Bavmorda's Spell is Cast Part 2 Bavmorda's Spell is Cast Part 3 Willow the Sorcerer Jurassic Shark, Ricard, CGCJ and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Every track could just be laid straight over the picture Hehe. This is just great, a tense, fun action sequence which the music carries really well on its back, without having to be chopped to the picture... for all of Spielberg's talk of how much he loves and respects Williams, he sure does cut his music down all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Holko said: Hehe. This is just great, a tense, fun action sequence which the music carries really well on its back, without having to be chopped to the picture... for all of Spielberg's talk of how much he loves and respects Williams, he sure does cut his music down all the time. I'm guessing a lot of that is down to Spielberg wanting to tinker right up until the movie has to be locked. E.T. is definitely the LEAST fussed with of his that I've worked on. Annoyingly there's a couple little sections of "The Escape" in E.T. that were edited in some way and I never did figure out exactly what the editors had done. I ended up having to make nasty sounding cuts just to get the rest of the sequence lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Exactly the cue which they boast about every time how the movie was turned off, Johnny scored it, then Spielberg cut it to the music. Yeah, except for the first 3 damn minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 That little part where Elliott's brother has just taken off in the van and stops to tell his buddies to meet up at the park. What the heck did they do there? There's also something a little screwy happening when it cuts back to the part with Drew Barrymore giving away the game to Keys, when he runs down the station wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 FERDINAND Flower Festival (John Powell) Just a few edit points and one tiny bit of percussion loop I had to extend very clumsily, but nothing that detracts from the listening experience. This cue was pretty terribly mixed at a low volume for a lot of the sequence, especially the more action-oriented part. So in presenting Powell's intentions more clearly communicated, I hope I'm righting a great wrong for one of the best film score cues of the decade. Will and Loert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 You could use the track from the FYC album, as that would match the final film exactly, no editing required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 I don't have the FYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I gotchu fam https://www.ebay.com/itm/382438754087 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 LOL, by "you got me" you mean "here's a link to an over-priced CD"? Haha, I suppose if I'm going all-in on this score I might as well overspend on it too. Ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Tomorrowland (Michael Giacchino) Pin-Ultimate Experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 @Disco Stu Jerry, have you tried redoing KIRK'S EXPLOSIVE REPLY, with the extra bit of music, at the very end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 The extra bit of music at the end covers Scotty walking into the bridge holding his nephew's body doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Not quite, Jay. In the film, the music stops there, but on the CD, it continues, and is meant to score a shot of the crippled Enterprise, leading into an establishing shot of the medical bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Ah yes you're right, I remember now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 That would be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, Richard said: @Disco Stu Jerry, have you tried redoing KIRK'S EXPLOSIVE REPLY, with the extra bit of music, at the very end? Why did you call me Jerry? I'll probably get to dabbling in Star Trek movies soon, but I'd probably do SEARCH FOR SPOCK or GENERATIONS first. They're my favorites for each cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Oops! Sorry about the Jerry thing. Won't happen again. Apologies, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 Well, in a roundabout way @Richard gave me the idea of working on Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, so I did! I'm planning on working on a bunch of James Horner in general this May, so it only makes sense to start with the first Horner score I fell in love with. There were several years of my childhood where I had seen The Search for Spock many many times before I ever saw The Wrath of Khan. We had STIII on VHS and for some reason it never even occurred to me to seek out the earlier movie; just how a child's brain works I guess. This is such a weird, beautiful movie. It's so contemplative, almost small and quiet, for a major Summer blockbuster. It also feels somehow very warm and inviting for me. Just a great way to spend time with these characters for a couple of hours. I want to kick off my week of Star Trek III with the sequence where the battle-scarred Enterprise arrives at Earth Spacedock. It made such a big impression on me as a kid. For his two movies Horner pulled off this neat trick of writing music that felt both inspiring in that Roddenberry way and a bit sad/meditative to my ears. It's really very beautiful. And Earth Spacedock is just one of the greatest movie models of all time! Fantastic old-school special effects here. Of course this sequence also features the all-time classic Scotty line, "Aye, and if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon." Klingons (Part 2: Arrival at Spacedock) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Star Trek III is score forbidden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Star Trek III is score forbidden! I'll discuss what I like! And who in the hell are you?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Star Trek III is score forbidden! No its not. What on earth are you talking about, Nick? It may not reach the operatic heights of ST:II, but it's a bloody good score, nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 I'm hoping I can change people's minds about this score by showing them just the music and images! It's fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 When it comes to the score and film of ST:III, you're preaching to the converted, here! I've loved both since I saw the movie, in 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 ST2 and ST3 are both great, great scores! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Richard said: No its not. What on earth are you talking about, Nick? It may not reach the operatic heights of ST:II, but it's a bloody good score, nonetheless. Listen my backwards friend, where's the logic in talking about opera, you idiot! If I wanted talk about opera, why would I be on a John Williams site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 It's alright. Stealing the Enterprise is what I'm looking forward to! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, Holko said: It's alright. Stealing the Enterprise is what I'm looking forward to! Stay tuned! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Yes, especially with the cut scene reinserted, but, personally, I've never seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 There's a Stealing The Enterprise synced to picture on youtube already. Or there was, I suppose it could be gone now 3 minutes ago, Richard said: Yes, especially with the cut scene reinserted, but, personally, I've never seen it. In the youtube version, they just cut out the music for it rather than having a black screen up during that passage, it worked very well, not a jarring musical edit at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 You mean someone stole it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jay said: There's a Stealing The Enterprise synced to picture on youtube already. Or there was, I suppose it could be gone now In the youtube version, they just cut out the music for it rather than having a black screen up during that passage, it worked very well, not a jarring musical edit at all Oh...now I'm afraid mine's a bit jarring I'm sure whoever put it on Youtube did a better job. Now that I know there's something to compare it to I'll probably go back and finesse it just a bit more! I don't even know what the cut music was supposed to accompany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Richard said: When it comes to the score and film of ST:III, you're preaching to the converted, here! I've loved both since I saw the movie, in 1984. Maybe you're not as familiar with it as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 Well, speaking of weird awkward edits just wait til we get to my "Genesis Destroyed" video. The most microedited cue in the movie for sure. There's one section they just looped three times in a row as a clumsy way to extend it. Mostly covered with sound effects though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Oh...now I'm afraid mine's a bit jarring I'm sure whoever put it on Youtube did a better job. Now that I know there's something to compare it to I'll probably go back and finesse it just a bit more! I don't even know what the cut music was supposed to accompany. Well, you could just leave the music untouched, and have a black screen where the deleted footage would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jay said: Well, you could just leave the music untouched, and have a black screen where the deleted footage would be Maybe, I'll take another look tonight and decide. In the movie the edit is covered a bit with the transport sound effect. The strings in the cut section of music sound like something out of a horror movie, I wonder what it was for. And hey guys, this May is a pretty major anniversary for a certain classic Horner score..... Just something to look forward to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Wasn't it for some kind of snow planet sequence or something? I dunno why but I can't find the youtube video or the discussion of it; I swear it was discussed either here or on FSM or both but I can't find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2018 Well, an awkward transition it is. I'm using included-with-OS software so I just did the best I could. Haven't figured out how to do good crossfading with iMovie. Still, I hope some of you watch and enjoy. It's a wonderful sequence and I don't think the edit detracts from the experience. Anyway, up yer shaft if you're gonna complain! Stealing the Enterprise I had to include the "Don't get smart, Tiny" line It has such a great payoff with that harp glissando as Sulu flips the dude over! Ricard, JackPat and Holko 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Another prime example where, without the score, this would just be some dudes parking the car out of the garage very, very slowly, but with the score, it's a legendary moment. Tallguy and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, Holko said: Another prime example where, without the score, this would just be some dudes parking the car out of the garage very, very slowly, but with the score, it's a legendary moment. After all, this isn't reality. This is fantasy! And is it just me or did Horner time the rhythm of the pizzicato strings to match the transwarp status bars going up and down at 5:31? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Yesterday we stole the Enterprise. Today we destroy it. A Fighting Chance to Live Holko and Ricard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 I... HAVE HAD... ENOUGH OF.... YOU! Genesis Destroyed This cue presented some interesting challenges. Twice at different points in the cue the music editor just looped a section of music twice in a row. No changes. Plus a couple of microedits on top of that. Fantastic music either way and I'm pretty happy with how I got the looping sounding. Not too awkward at all imho. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Sorry for jumping all around in the film order, but I wanted to go back and highlight this great action-suspense cue. Bird of Prey Decloaks Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Well I guess that's it for Star Trek III. I might as well go ahead and reveal that I have almost the entire OST for Willow set to picture now. Willow turns 30 this month! Happy anniversary Willow! What I'm not sure of is how to break up the music for these videos, assuming anyone's interested. The final 50 minutes of the movie is basically ALL music with "Canyon of Mazes," "Tir Asleen," "Bavmorda's Spell is Cast," and "Willow the Sorcerer" coming one after the other with almost no breaks between. Do y'all want to see me just post sections of the movie based on the tracks above? Those have a fairly unwieldy length but I also can see why now that I've done this project because there aren't many logical breaks. I guess if no one responds or has a preference I'll try to figure out a few natural break points within the long OST tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Watch Intrada announce a expanded Wilow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, Fal said: Watch Intrada announce a expanded Wilow. This is my plan! It’s gotta work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 Guys, I'm not gonna lie. It has been SO much fun working on Willow. Putting finishing touches on things today. Tons of microedits and looping and stuff, but it's such a WONDERFUL score to listen to against picture. I've always loved the OST, but I feel like this has really unlocked the score for me in a new way. Even if there's not much community response, it's been a blast working on this and totally worth it. Can't wait to start posting them Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Of awesome! love Willow! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Agreed. Willow is aces. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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