Bespin 8,484 Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 Here's now for Mr. Thomas Newman, the youngest son of Alfred: American Beauty (AFI, Grammy Winner, BAFTA Winner, Academy Award Nominee) The Shawshank Redemption (AFI, Academy Award Nominee, Grammy Nominee) Skyfall (Grammy Winner, BAFTA Winner, Academy Award Nominee, Saturn Nominee) WALL-E (Academy Award Nominee, Grammy Nominee, BAFTA Nominee) Saving Mr. Banks (Academy Award Nominee, Grammy Nominee, BAFTA Nominee) Bridge of Spies (Academy Award Nominee, Grammy Nominee, BAFTA Nominee) Finding Nemo (Academy Award Nominee, Saturn Nominee) Passengers (Academy Award Nominee, Saturn Nominee) 1917 (Academy Award Nominee, BAFTA Nominee) Unstrung Heroes (Academy Award Nominee, Grammy Nominee) Angels in America (Grammy Nominee) Meet Joe Black (Saturn Nominee) The Green Mile (Saturn Nominee) Less Than Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Usually I discover a composer by watching a film and listening to the score. When the composer managed to grap my attention I listen to more samples on YouTube or Amazon starting with work the composer did for the same director which he worked with in the film that caught my attention. For example M. Night Shymalan and James Newton Howard or Howard Shores scores for David Cronenberg or Patrick Doyles works for Kenneth Branagh or Bernard Herrmann for Hitchcock or Dario Marianelli for Joe Wright. Next step is usually rather look for work of the composers outside the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 Yes but it's also interesting to see which scores got the attention of the industry too. It's not the Bible, but it gives an idea of which scores stand out. Howard Shore 🇨🇦 THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (AFI, Academy Award Winner, Grammy Winner, BAFTA Nominee, Saturn Nominee) THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS (AFI, Saturn Nominee) THE LORD OF THE RINGS: Return of the king (Academy Award Winner, Grammy Winner, Saturn Winner, BAFTA Nominee) THE LORD OF THE RINGS: Two Towers (Grammy Winner, Saturn Nominee) Ed wood (Saturn Winner, Grammy Nominee, BAFTA Nominee) Hugo (Saturn Nominee, Academy Award Nominee, BAFTA Nominee) The Aviator (Grammy Nominee, BAFTA Nominee) The Departed (Grammy Nominee) The Fly (Saturn Nominee) Dead Ringers (Saturn Nominee) Seven (Saturn Nominee) The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (Saturn Nominee) The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug (Saturn Nominee) The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies (Saturn Nominee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 James Newton Howard The Fugitive (AFI, Academy Award Nominee) The Village (AFI, Academy Award Nominee) Wyatt Earp (AFI) The Dark Night (shared with Hans Zimmer) (Saturn Winner, Grammy Winner, BAFTA Nominee) Defiance (Academy Award Nominees, Golden Globe Nominee) The Prince of Tide (Academy Award Nominee) My Best Friend's Wedding (Academy Award Nominee) Michael Clayton (Academy Award Nominee) Blood Diamond (Grammy Nominee) King Kong (Golden Globe Nominee) Batman Begins (shared with Hans Zimmer) (Saturn Nominee) Dinosaur (Saturn Nominee) Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them (Saturn Nominee) Snow Falling on Cedars Maleficient I fear it's no a very helpfull list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Meh, that list doesn't represent much of JNH's work. Where is The Postman, Waterworld, Atlantis, Signs, Unbreakable, Treasure Planet, Peter Pan, Lady in the Water, The Last Airbender, King Kong (Golden Globe nominee), Maleficent, etc? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Meh, that list doesn't represent much of JNH's work. Where is The Postman, Waterworld, Atlantis, Signs, Unbreakable, Treasure Planet, Peter Pan, Lady in the Water, The Last Airbender, King Kong (Golden Globe nominee), Maleficent, etc? This composer seems under represented regarding Nominations and Awards received for his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Bespin said: This composer seems under represented regarding Nominations and Awards received for his music. Indeed. His best scores usually aren't the ones nominated for something, and the scores that do get nominated doesn't usually have the best listening experiences. I mean, Michael Clayton? Come on... I recommend you starting with the scores I mentioned on my previous post, alongside The Village, Dinosaur and Fantastic Beasts from your post. Avoid the Nolan Batman scores, since they're mostly Zimmer (and friends); for instance, the only thing JNH did on TDK was the Harvey Dent theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 This composer have to better chose his movies! I will never buy an Hans Zimmer score, so there is no chance I get those horrible Batman scores! Ordered those to get along with my "Dave" Expansion... it's a beginning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 OK, let's do it again. Again, again! Michael Kamen ROBIN HOOD: PRINCE OF THIEVES (AFI, Academy Award Nominee, Golden Globes nominee, Grammy nominee, BMI winner) Don Juan DeMarco (Academy Award Nominee, Golden Globes nominee) Band of Brothers 2001 (TV) (BMI winner) X-Men (BMI winner) Lethal Weapon 4 (BMI winner) 101 Dalmatians 1996 (BMI winner) Die Hard: with a vangeance (BMI winner) Mr. Holland's Opus (BMI winner) Lethal Weapon 3 (BMI winner) Die Hard 2 (BMI winner) Lethal Weapon 2 (BMI winner) Die Hard (BMI winner) Lethal Weapon (BMI winner) The Iron Giant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 License To Kill is essential Kamen Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Well it seems he didn't exactly received the recognition he deserved, as a film music composer, during his short lifetime. I never dig in the "BMI" awards normally (what's this?). For me, that's the award they give to the ones who lost every others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I particularly recommend BAND OF BROTHERS, CRUSOE, EVENT HORIZON, HIGHLANDER, OPEN RANGE, ROBIN HOOD, THE OLD MOON IN THE NEW MOON'S ARMS and THE THREE MUSKETEERS. But I know you have your own thing with awards going on. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Well, the subject of this thread is a little bit about discussing the abyss between our favourite scores vs. the "A-WAR-DS" given by the industry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Another composer I tried and tried again, unsuccessfully. Robin Hood, Dead Zone, What Dreams May Come, Event Horizon and a handful pieces from the above-mentioned. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Since Kamen was such a crossover composer/performer, one should also own some of his non-film work. I mentioned "Old Moon" over. Also recommended in that regard is the DVD of his saxophone concerto, the S&M album with Metallica, Pink Floyd's THE WALL. Throw in the DAVID GILMOUR IN CONCERT DVD too, with Kamen on piano on-stage -- one of his last performances; he died a year later. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I think, Kamen as well arranged the strings for Here Comes the Rain Again and did orchestral arrangements for Kate Bush on The Sensual World. And JNH made orchestral arrangements for Elton John. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 When I really started collecting film music in the mid 80s, I discovered composers that were new to me via magazines such as Starlog and through various mailorder catalogues for soundtracks. Halliwell's Film Guide was also an invaluable resource as it listed the film composer for each film. The Schwann Record, Tape and CD Guide was a great help too. I also discovered Tony Thomas's book Film Score: A View from the Podium with discography at my local library. I started with Williams, then picked up on Horner, Goldsmith, Bernstein, Barry and Silvestri. Genre films were the ones whose music caught my attention initially, but as my taste matured I started getting into the more mainstream stuff. Over the course of the 90s I discovered more composers such as James Newton Howard, John Debney, David Arnold, Basil Poledouris and Joel McNeely and my collection grew. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 Trevor Jones - The Last of the Mohicans (Nominated BAFTA and Golden Globe) - Mississipi Burning (Nominated BAFTA) - Brassed Off (Nominated BAFTA) - Dark City - Cliffhanger - Arachnophobia (the European album, not the American one!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Cliffhanger is great with a wonderful main theme and fun action music Don't forget Merlin too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_(miniseries) http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/9447/Merlin Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I have CRISS CROSS for sale- CHEAP!😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Hard to go wrong with Trevor Jones. I was never a big fan of CLIFFHANGER, but these are all worthwhile, IMO: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 You left off his BEST score-13 DAYS! Check it out ( great film too)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: You left off his BEST score-13 DAYS! Check it out ( great film too)! Oh, I know both that and a whole bunch of other Jones scores that are not in my collection at the present time. Some I've not acquired yet, even if I've heard them, others have left my collection over the years. ARACHNOPHOBIA is a film I am very strongly attached from a nostalgic point-of-view. I am an actual arachnophobic and remember the trepidation when I first watched it in the 90s (in the theatre, I think). Had it on CD, but sold it at some point - can't remember why. Maybe the songs? The CLIFFHANGER CD left my collection too. Other than MOHICANS-like theme, none of the other music did much for me. Never really cared for fan favourite THE DARK CRYSTAL (although the film is a masterpiece). Or LABYRINTH. Neither did MERLIN, really (it's OK). MISSISSIPPI BURNING is a great movie, but again - the score on album never did much for me. Etc. etc. I can't say that I've ever outright disliked any of these, though. As I said earlier, it's hard to go wrong with Jones, as in find a 'complete dud'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Thor the Arachnophobe. 😊 I used to have a fear of insects- but not spiders who I think are cool# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I've always been a big fan of Dark City, which is on @Thor's list. I remember seeing it at the cinema and missing the first five minutes so missed a lot of the explanatory narration which, on reflection, made it a much more enjoyable experience as there was much more mystery about what was going on. Still a good movie even if you do see the opening! I enjoy Nate and Hayes but that was one where I did find the material got a bit repetitive by the end. A good theme, but it seems to appear every 5 seconds*. Gave Merlin a spin yesterday. The main theme reminded me of something but I can't remember what, probably The Dark Crystal! I do enjoy The Dark Crystal more than Thor, guess it's a fan favourite for a reason I guess, just a shame the original film tracks version is basically the music stems from the film and so sound often cuts off abruptly. Having said that, the the original album presents all the major material effectively and there's not much of particular note missing. Great LSO performance too. *possibly exaggerated for effect ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Jones is a great middle-of-the-road talent which existed plenty back in the day but who have now sadly almost vanished from the scene. I quite like 'The Mighty'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 He may have "vanished from the scene" in terms of doing much film music, but last I heard, he was teaching film music at some institution in South Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 It's not that I'm ready to go "Disney" all the way (and archival), but I just made some researches... just to find pretty evident titles! Alan Menken Poncahontas (Academy Award winner, Golden Globe Winner, Grammy Winner) Aladdin (Academy Award winner, Golden Globe Winner, Grammy Winner, Saturn nominee) Beauty and the Beast (Academy Award winner, Golden Globe Winner, Grammy Winner, Saturn nominee) The Little Mermaid (Academy Award winner, Grammy Winner) Enchanted (Saturn winner) Little Shop of Horrors (Saturn Winner) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I would add THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME and HERCULES to your list, and then you pretty much have all the must-have Menken essentials. Menken is on my top 5 of living composers I've not yet interviewed, but really would want to. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 It remains very Disneyish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Sure. That's what's he's all about. If you want to "branch out" into non-Disney stuff, I also recommend the TV movie LINCOLN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Pocahontas is a masterpiece of a score. It's probably one of the best Disney scores alongside Zimmer's Lion King. Tom Guernsey and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 Ok, David Newman now. I've learned that he's been hired by Spielberg to get Bernstein's "West Side Story" score listenable for a younger audience. Well, good luck with that! So let's see his Pedigree... Hoffa (AFI 250 list) Anastesia (Academy Award nominee) Galaxy Quest (Saturn Nominee) Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel (BMI Film Music Award Winner) Are We There Yet? (BMI Film Music Award Winner) Daddy Day Care (BMI Film Music Award Winner) The Cat in the Hat (BMI Film Music Award Winner) Scooby-Doo (BMI Film Music Award Winner) How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days (BMI Film Music Award Winner) Ice Age (BMI Film Music Award Winner) Dr. Dolittle 2 (BMI Film Music Award Winner) Nutty Professor II: The Klumps (BMI Film Music Award Winner) The Nutty Professor (BMI Film Music Award Winner) The Flintstones (BMI Film Music Award Winner) The War of the Roses (BMI Film Music Award Winner) Throw Momma from the Train (BMI Film Music Award Winner) Mr. Destiny (because) I think the BMI loves him VERY MUCH. Bofff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I've never found his original scores to be all that remarkable, but he puts on a good show at concerts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 4:33 PM, Bespin said: It's not that I'm ready to go "Disney" all the way (and archival), but I just made some researches... just to find pretty evident titles! Alan Menken Poncahontas (Academy Award winner, Golden Globe Winner, Grammy Winner) Aladdin (Academy Award winner, Golden Globe Winner, Grammy Winner, Saturn nominee) Beauty and the Beast (Academy Award winner, Golden Globe Winner, Grammy Winner, Saturn nominee) The Little Mermaid (Academy Award winner, Grammy Winner) Enchanted (Saturn winner) Little Shop of Horrors (Saturn Winner) I think, you should definitely include Mirror Mirror. It is the only Menken score without a Menken song, I think. It is my personal favourite of his, because I don't like listening to musicals off-screen. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jay said: I've never found his original scores to be all that remarkable, but he puts on a good show at concerts Hum-hum. Maybe a compilation or live concert format would better fit as an introduction to this composer, I have to make some researches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I remember liking his Ice Age score, it was pleasant enough. His scores for the Scooby-Doo live action movies were decent as well. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 His best score(s), like Hoffa or The Affair of the Necklace are not even included on this list, omitted for drivel like Dr. Dolittle 2. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I always forget about Hoffa. Heard a lot of good things about that one but haven't checked it out yet. It recently got a complete edition from La La Land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 David Newman is probably underrated as a drama movie music composer, I don't really know his work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 Here now, a composer I don't know nothing about, except that he composed the original theme of Mission Impossible in the 60's... Lalo Schifrin COOL HAND LUKE (AFI, Academy Award Nominee) BULLITT (AFI) DIRTY HARRY (AFI) The Fox (Academy Award Nominee, Grammy Nominee) The Amityville Horror (Academy Award Nominee) Voyage of the Damned (Academy Award Nominee) Rush Hour (BMI Winner, Grammy Nominee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I own his OSTs for Enter The Dragon and Rush Hour Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 I must admit I'm interested in The Amityville Horror, as it is one of my favourite Romance movie! But I don't exactly remember the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 In the future, movies will have smell, and they'll hire talented composers to write masterpiece smell tracks, akin to symphonies for the nose. Can't smell well? You'll wish you were blind instead, with the sheer beauty coming out of these scented holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Bespin, get GONE WITH THE WAVE if you can. A gorgeous cocktail lounge soundtrack (for an obscure film) that will be up your alley, I think. Available only on a rare LP for many years, untill FSM released it alongside DIAMOND HEAD. But as a JW collector, you might already own it. Beyond the ones you mentioned, also get MANNIX (the rerecording) and the compilation THERE'S A WHOLE LALO SCHIFRIN GOIN' ON, for a start. COOGAN'S BLUFF is great too. I'm personally not that keen on his horror stuff; Schifrin is mostly about about jazz for me, even though he's done a wide variety of things. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Thor said: Bespin, get GONE WITH THE WAVE if you can. A gorgeous cocktail lounge soundtrack (for an obscure film) that will be up your alley, I think. Available only on a rare LP for many years, untill FSM released it alongside DIAMOND HEAD. But as a JW collector, you might already own it. OMG, yes indeed I own this CD, so I finally own a CD of Lalo!!! I never listened to it LOL. 10 hours ago, Oomoog the Ecstatic said: In the future, movies will have smell, and they'll hire talented composers to write masterpiece smell tracks, akin to symphonies for the nose. Can't smell well? You'll wish you were blind instead, with the sheer beauty coming out of these scented holes. I can't wait to hear a "scratch and smell" score! They already tried for movies and it was a failure, but for movie scores... brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 Very surprising... Nino Rota THE GODFATHER (AFI, Academy Award Nominee, Grammy Winner, BAFTA Winner) WAR AND PEACE (AFI) The Godfather: Part II (Academy Award Winner, BAFTA Nominee) La dolce vita (Grammy Nominee) Romeo and Juliet (BAFTA Nominee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 Ryuichi Sakamoto ラストエンペラー レヴェナント 蘇えりし者 戦場のメリークリスマス シェルタリング・スカイ 小活佛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/21/2021 at 10:34 AM, Bespin said: Ryuichi Sakamoto ラストエンペラー レヴェナント 蘇えりし者 戦場のメリークリスマス シェルタリング・スカイ 小活佛 Ok, it was a joke, but no one reacted... Ryuichi Sakamoto The Last Emperor (Academy Award Winner, Grammy Winner, Golden Globe Winner, BAFTA Nominee) The Revenant (Grammy Nominee, Golden Globe Nominee, BAFTA Nominee) Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence (BAFTA Winner) The Sheltering Sky (Golden Globe Nominee) Little Buddha (Grammy Nominee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,520 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Ok, it was a joke, but no one reacted... Bespin's humour always has the same effect on me! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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