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What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?
Tom Guernsey replied to GerateWohl's topic in General Discussion
Great recollections... sounds like we were at the same event when he talked about The Edge! And yes, the director (Lee Tamahori) was indeed there. Great to have gone with your mum too! -
Composer Threads The Official James Horner Thread
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Oh yeah you’re right. Hopefully it’ll pick up soon. I realised I hadn’t contributed so have done so. Hope anyone else able to contribute can do even if it’s basically just ordering an advanced copy. -
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Composer Threads John Powell kicks ass
Tom Guernsey replied to Morlock's topic in General Discussion
Nice selection. I did a nice 1 hour 10 compilation as I always feel once it starts getting to multiple hours, it starts getting close to just putting on John Powell > shuffle... (not meant as a criticism at all I would add, just a personal thing!). However, I did cheat a bit by putting the HTTYD scores into their own compilation and may do the same for the Ice Age scores too, although harder for them given that many tracks on album run into each other. One score neither of us included was I Am Sam, which I remember being the first time I really took notice of his music (surprising given that's a relatively uncharacteristic effort in terms of being an intimate drama score). It's a lovely, low key score that's quite a way from many of his other scores, but is well worth a listen. I'd have to give it another spin to determine what might be the most representative track/s for inclusion. On the subject of unclean endings (as it were) I actually used the join tracks feature to re-rip Horton which results in an 18 track album. The only downside is that the track lengths are somewhat uneven, as there's a significant number that are around a couple of minutes (which aren't connected to the surrounding tracks), but two of the combination tracks end up being over 9 minutes. I started looking at doing the same for X-Men: The Last Stand and the earlier Ice Age scores, but never got round to it. May have to revisit. -
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You beat me to it posting his review which I thought was superbly written. I was looking forward to this show and score having recently become acquainted with Maurice Jarre’s score for the 80s adaptation (which is great) and also having seen Sondheim’s Pacific Overtures which is a superb musical about Japanese isolationism in the 17th to 19th centuries and touches on colonialism etc (which is possibly the least likely subject for a musical I can think of). I shall give this new adaptation a watch but quite disappointed that the music may not be up to much. I trust James’s views and we usually agree on film music!
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What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)
Tom Guernsey replied to Ollie's topic in General Discussion
Alice in Wonderland by Richard Hartley (his brother JR wrote a book about fly fishing...). One of a run of Hallmark (and probably other network) TV movies in the late 90s with delightful orchestral scores by Richard Hartley and Richard Harvey (neatly next to each other in iTunes). Hartley's score to Alice is much more playful than the somewhat urgent sound of Elfman's score for the Burton version, perhaps closer in spirit to the John Barry score for the 70s version. However, where those two composers are pretty readily identifiable, Hartley's score is more of a mashup of 80s and 90s feature scores, notably bits of Hook and Casper, plus others I've almost certainly missed. Not the most original, but charming and tuneful all the same. The songs are silly but fun and entirely appropriate. -
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Yeah exactly. It's not a revelatory expansion by any means so certainly not crushed having missed out. I'm sure some people will hate me for saying this, but there are some older expansions I missed out on where the later ones were significantly better. Perhaps notably the FSM release of Patton (rather oddly coupled with Frank DeVol's Flight of the Phoenix). I was initially disappointed to miss out on one of Jerry's best and most famous scores, but FSM only released the original film tracks which don't sound as good as the album recording made at the time which FSM did not include. Intrada's release included both and sounded better. I still find the original soundtrack album the most satisfying presentation of this score, even if it contains 10 minutes less music than the full score.
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What was your first encounter with Jerry Goldsmith?
Tom Guernsey replied to GerateWohl's topic in General Discussion
Maybe?! -
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Tom Guernsey replied to GerateWohl's topic in General Discussion
Star Trek, Star Trek, Star Trek... and, as if by magic, he and his music appeared in my life. I remember being quite confused as to why Star Trek 2 didn't use his theme from TMP. I feel like he's slowly crept in to usurp JW as my favourite film composer, but let's call it a tie so everyone is equally happy/disappointed. I actually assumed the title of the thread meant encounter in person in which case it would be at the Museum of the Moving Image in, I guess 1997, around the time The Edge was released as he gave a talk about it alongside director Lee Tamahori (before he disappointed us all with Die Another Die... or The Another The as it is in Germany - sorry the Simpsons). They showed the opening titles with the Last of the Mohicans temp tracked, then with Jerry's (excellent) main titles music. I do remember Jerry expressing his dislike of temp tracking but otherwise talked generally about how he worked with the director and his composing process etc. Sadly too long ago to remember much of the details. However, I did get to shake his hand and he kindly signed Night Crossing for me. I have no idea why I chose that over TMP or something a bit more famous... but it's obviously a much treasured possession. Mr Southall went to the same event and I think he got Powder signed (as it had large white areas which seemed better suited to autographs from cranky, pony-tailed composers). However, we both agreed that he definitely signed it Jerry Dobson, which became something of a running joke during our time at uni. -
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96th Academy Awards (2024 Oscars for 2023 films)
Tom Guernsey replied to Jay's topic in General Discussion
Glad it's not just me who feels like that! And if you're gonna smother a film in music, at least make it decent music... -
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96th Academy Awards (2024 Oscars for 2023 films)
Tom Guernsey replied to Jay's topic in General Discussion
What a terrifying future awaits us all lol. I’m not in the least bit surprised he won but still felt it was actually badly scored, both in terms of the music and the spotting. Intrusive and relentless in the dialogue scenes without any dramatic ebb and flow, just constantly noodling away with buildup after buildup making the film feel like a super long trailer. Ah well I can resign myself to being out of touch with what makes an Oscar winning score in the 21st century and pay them no mind. -
Did Jerry Goldsmith really call John Williams “such a snob”?
Tom Guernsey replied to JTN's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
Honestly I don't know, although in my head it was at the Royal Albert Hall but that could just be because I've seen lots of film music concerts there. I agree that those three directors provided him with some fine ongoing collaborations, but none that quite hit the sweet spot of critical and commercial acclaim which JW has enjoyed. Also, JW's success probably got him offered better quality non-Spielberg/Lucas projects than Jerry, at least once you get to the 80s and 90s. I would concede that Jerry probably could have been a bit more discerning as to which projects he agreed to or could have done with a better agent! Of any other composers, I expect he was more pissed off at James Horner's success than JW given that the average quality of Horner's assignments were probably higher than Jerry's once he hit his post-Star Trek 2 stride. Jerry would almost certainly have felt that JW earned his success with a couple of decades of TV and the various comedies, disaster movies etc. that he did before hitting the big time, even if I'm sure Jerry would have liked some of that for himself! -
The Classical Music Recommendation Thread
Tom Guernsey replied to Muad'Dib's topic in General Discussion
Does anyone have any recommendations for a complete set of the Widor Organ Symphonies? I have a couple of random recordings of the famous 5th but would like to explore the others. Perhaps unwisely, I played the toccata from the 5th when I used to play the organ at a local church at the end of a service. I more or less got through it… our music teacher at school (as well as my church organ and later piano teacher) played it at least once a year at the end of assembly much to the delight of even the less musically inclined students. Although not as big a hit as when he played the theme from Jurassic Park or The Imperial March… both of which were ideal for the principal who was a dinosaur, wore a black gown and was probably evil. -
Did Jerry Goldsmith really call John Williams “such a snob”?
Tom Guernsey replied to JTN's topic in JOHN WILLIAMS
Haha, yeah that's what I meant... d'oh. Well actually I meant it wasn't a lot more silly... but silly is in the eye of the beholder I guess.