Lurker 5 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 This is what the film looked like when it was originally released in 1977.And here is the revised opening titles we all have on home video. These titles were first seen with the April 10, 1981 re-issue.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I like the second version best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Where are the stars in the background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 19, 2003 Author Share Posted December 19, 2003 It's a poor screengrab that I did. Stars are there on the source. They are very faint on my monitor, but they are there.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mari 279 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Ah, yes ... I still remember how it felt to see those words scroll up the screen back in 1977 Thanks Neil!Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 19, 2003 Author Share Posted December 19, 2003 Some more...Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I also like the revised version better. It looks empty the other way. It was done before Lucas realized he could do the entire story. I see nothing bad with that.Since I was only 3 when the first version came out, I only saw the 2nd version in theatres... the re-release after TESB came out. Besides, when I was 3-6 years old, I didn't pay attention to the text anyways! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Now here's my question: how'd they do title crawls back then? I've wondered how they did everything with titles back then, before computers? Especially the kind where they'd have the letters over a live background. Or in Ben-Hur when they did the titles over the painting of The Creation of Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 The color yellow is better in the unaltered version. In fact, the yellow text in revised version looks terrible.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 The 2nd version would be OK, only at the top it should say "Episode 1: A New hope". Being the first of the three REAL SW films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Now here's my question: how'd they do title crawls back then?It's explained in the Ep. 1 commentary.Ben Burtt: "I remember the very first roll-up they filmed at ILM on the first movie. The typing was actually set out on the floor, and the camera, on a track, actually did a huge crane shot over the back-lit words. It was not done by computer as is done today, and I can remember the difficulty they had getting it to move smoothly. And the roll-up would start fast, then go slow, then speed up again, then go slow, and it was impossible to watch at that point till they worked it out and had it all at uniform speed."- Marc, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Wow! So there is actually something worth seeing on the Episode I DVD? I'll be damned! Anyway thanks for the info Dr. BreathMask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I like the first version better.unlike certain geeks,I have never thought A NEW HOPEis a good title for a SCI-FI movie, but since it isn't the title of the film but a subtitle, I have dealt with it.there is only one film called Star Wars, and it was released in 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 19, 2003 Author Share Posted December 19, 2003 A little trivia about the crawl. It was re-written by film critic Jay Cocks and Brian DePalma after they viewed an early cut by Lucas.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I've never seen the '77 version. Heck I haven't seen A New Hope the un-SE version in years. Justin -Who only owns fullscreen VHS SE's of the original trilogy....and still prefers any one of them to Widescreen DVD of AOTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 The color yellow is better in the unaltered version. In fact, the yellow text in revised version looks terrible.In those screen grabs, or in the actual movie? Neil's sources might be of different quality.Marian - who also likes the new version better. The Return of the King (Howard Shore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I like the larger lettering in the original version.I suppose putting a subtitle on the original film was necessary, kind of like putting subtitles on all the "Lord of the Rings" movies, though I noticed that my tickets for "Return of the King" say "Lord of the Rings."Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 A little trivia about the crawl. It was re-written by film critic Jay Cox and Brian DePalma after they viewed an early cut by Lucas.NeilIs it too late to hire them for Episode III?----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 yes with DePalma writting for Ep. III we will get scenes likeChancellor Palpatine: Padme, I can see your dirty pillowsPadme: There called breast Chancellor and every woman has them.or Obi-Wan: Eat your carrot cake, Anakin,Anakin: It gives me pimplesObi-Wan: Pimples are the jedi's way of chastising you.Behind the scenes looks, DePalma to Lucas after reading the original script.The all gonna laugh at you, there all gonna laugh at you!!!The best part though is DePalma talked Lucas into including Anakin's graduation scene where he becomes a full jedi, but to help push him over the edge to the dark side, Darth Sideous pours pig blood over his head. Subsequently Anakin kills almost all of the Jedi. Great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Wasn't DePalma one of the few who told Lucas Star Wars would flop back in 77? I agree with Joe, I've never cared for the title A New Hope. To me it's always been Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 19, 2003 Author Share Posted December 19, 2003 The color yellow is better in the unaltered version. In fact, the yellow text in revised version looks terrible.They are from different sources. You can't really compare them.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eplicon 53 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 That original title crawl sure brings back some swell memories. I'm only a handful of people who saw the film in 1977 and remember there NOT being an "Episode IV: A New Hope" at the beginning. I only remember it as such because after seeing the film the third time, I tried to write out the prologue on paper when I got home (because I thought it was so cool!). And second, when I saw TESB the very first time, I was wondering why it began with "Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back" instead of going right to the prologue. (Yes, I knew Star Wars was meant to be a multi-chapter saga at the time, but it still made me slightly confused at first.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 yes with DePalma writting for Ep. III we will get scenes like Chancellor Palpatine: Padme, I can see your dirty pillows Padme: There called breast Chancellor and every woman has them. or Obi-Wan: Eat your carrot cake, Anakin, Anakin: It gives me pimples Obi-Wan: Pimples are the jedi's way of chastising you. Behind the scenes looks, DePalma to Lucas after reading the original script. The all gonna laugh at you, there all gonna laugh at you!!! The best part though is DePalma talked Lucas into including Anakin's graduation scene where he becomes a full jedi, but to help push him over the edge to the dark side, Darth Sideous pours pig blood over his head. Subsequently Anakin kills almost all of the Jedi. Great stuff. How about this, Palpatine after turning Anakin to the dark sidePalpatine: So how do you feel sonAnakin: I have to peePalpatine: That's just your penis talking son, says he's proud of yaMace windu walks into the senate chambers and looks at Jar JarMace: This party's over Chops jar jar's head offDeleted Scene from Ep 2Padme has followed Anakin to the tuskan raider campsPadme: Hey who's that guy killing all those inocent women and children, GOD that's hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 I do understand that for those of you who saw the movie back in 1977, the movie will always be just Star Wars.As for me, when I fell in love with the saga there were already 3 movies, so for me it has always been episode IV: A New Hope. I don't really respond mentally when people refer to that movie as just Star WArs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 My first Star Wars film was Return of the Jedi, in 1983, and only saw Star Wars in the theatre by the late 80's. Still I never really called it A New Hope. I knew of the subtitle, but it still was Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 A little trivia about the crawl. It was re-written by film critic Jay Cox and Brian DePalma after they viewed an early cut by Lucas.NeilIs it too late to hire them for Episode III?----------------Alex CremersWhat difference would it make? A good opening crawl down not make for a good movie overall. You need a good script and good direction for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 In the sequels any help is welcome.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 In the sequels any help is welcome.----------------Alex CremersYeah but when its just a crawl who cares? Get someone to help Lucas write a good script! F%^& THE CRAWL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 The crawl is what Star Wars is now practicallybut wait, he'll update that again too or better yetHE'LL ELIMINATE THE CRAWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 The crawl is what Star Wars is now practicallybut wait, he'll update that again too or better yetHE'LL ELIMINATE THE CRAWLNo No No! More likely he'll do some sort of special "ultra over the top CG crawl"!You know where the words flash and are in multi-colors with whooshing sentences which come rushing in and out of the screen. Like someone's over-the-top Christmas display! YOU KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Like Superman the Movie's opening credits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Like Superman the Movie's opening credits?Yeah but even more insane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 With Ewoks!You know, the fuzzy bears Lucas wanted to become the mainstream version of the teddy bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 What's a teddy bear again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Someone get him a pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 What's a teddy bear again?For God's SAKE MAN!!! This is a Teddy Bear:You dont get out much dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Stefan- who has more then his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Stefan- who has more then his And you're refering to which of them??? Personally I would go for the bigger one, without the cloths Miguel, hoping his wife doesn't reads this post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 You should be ready for some blackmail, Miguel My silence will cost you the accidental tourist cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 You should be ready for some blackmail, Miguel My silence will cost you the accidental tourist cd.I forgot about you... Seems I'll have to kill you now!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Stefan- who has more then his And you're refering to which of them??? Personally I would go for the bigger one, without the cloths Miguel, hoping his wife doesn't reads this postToo late, it's already in the mailGood luck dodging the bullet on this one Miguel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Never neglect my dodging abilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Not sure I like her face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Never neglect my dodging abilities...When you're ready... you won't have to.- Marc, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Not sure I like her faceWith a bod like that, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Not sure I like her faceWith a bod like that, who cares?You know, I was waiting for you to say that! I kid you not! ----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Not sure I like her faceWith a bod like that, who cares?You know, I was waiting for you to say that! I kid you not! ----------------Alex CremersBehold Alex's powerHe is able to predict Stefancos' EVERY MOVE with cold calcutated precision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Stefan just made this thread a WHOLE lot more inviting! Thats what this board really needs! A naked chicks thread! We haven't had one of those before. I am sure we could implement JW into ....... uhhhh .... somehow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted December 23, 2003 Author Share Posted December 23, 2003 Thats what this board really needs! A naked chicks thread! We haven't had one of those before.You mean no one has ever posted nude photos here before in a thread, not even of Natalie Portman?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Do you have any proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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