Trumpeteer 302 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 This was a poll on the Star Wars Web site a few weeks back.The results make me shudder.Star Wars pollI wonder if Lucas will take this poll, give it to Williams, and say "That's what Ithe people want. Let's give it to them."Jeff -- shuddering still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Those are pretty dumb selections. Where is "smooth jazz"?If Williams really was unable to score this movie, I think they should just use his existing scores and cut them up and track them throughout this movie. They've had great luck with that technique in the past.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I saw this yesterday and was really frightened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Meh! All they are asking is a hypothetical. They say if JW DIDN'T SCORE it then which music genre would best fit. Its not asking people if they actually want the SW films scored like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I saw that poll. I didn't vote in it. I don't have time to answer dumb-ass questions like this. If only they'd included the option "film music by another talented composer" but noooo... Morons.- Marc, :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Well, more proof that StarWars.com is a terrible Star Wars site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 If Star Wars can't have Williams music, it shouldn't have any music at all. Not a note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 What the F kind of question is that? What morons.Ray Barsnbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWFAN4LIFE 0 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I would agree, it is a dumb question. What are they going to ask next, do you think E3 should be a romantic comedy??? They really have too much time on their hands...I wonder how many of the people that voted in that poll actually know who JW is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Do you think the people who made that poll even know who John Williams is? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier 5 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Flabbergasting.And it's not even a poll on a fan board but an "official" poll!Asking "what other film composer would you have liked to score Star Wars" is a valid question, but this?! Such choices?! What were they thinking? Were they drunk when they conducted that poll?So those who answered would have liked techno? Maybe they would also like Anakin and Padme to attend a Reloaded rave scene and visit a Revolutions S&M-like club, dressed in "Catwoman" suits. Well to them. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 How about a score by Eminem?He will do a great job in capturing Anakin's anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 What a load of bollocks. This poll seems to be catering for the idiots who think that John Williams writes the score for every single movie in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 This poll seems to be catering for the idiots who think that John Williams writes the score for every single movie in existence. He doesn't???? Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus1944 0 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Do they remember the music for the Flash Gordon remake in 1980, with Queen? Oh, yeah, let's do that to Star Wars and HP, too... :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Do they remember the music for the Flash Gordon remake in 1980, with Queen?Howard Blake did the orchestral score for that while Queen provided some songs. I think it was very successful in the film.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 He doesn't???? Sorry. I don't know what came over me there. Of course he does.NP: Back to the Future (John Williams) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Sorry. I don't know what came over me there. Of course he does.That's better.NP: Enemy at The Gates (John Williams) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,368 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 The first time I saw Flash Gordon it was in theatre and I thought it was all one bad joke. The second time I kinda enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,810 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 They are Speaking of SW in general not epIII. Anyway, since they do not have the option Classical music, well i think sacking Williams is not an option... Stupid question though (i cannot believe that came from the offical site )Stefan, you reference to Enemy at the Gates is just coincidence or are you making fun of Horner, who used Shindler's List theme in it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Stefan, you reference to Enemy at the Gates is just coincidence or are you making fun of Horner, who used Shindler's List theme in it ?John Williams writes everything, Luke.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Anyone hear the rerelease for Williams Oscarwinning score of Dances With Wolves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeejaHalycon 0 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I'm sure the vast majority of visitors to StarWars.com are relatively normal people who do not truly comprehend the greatness of John Williams. They probably refer to the Main Theme as "that song in the beginning," and thought the Imperial March at the end AOTC was "really cool."Btw, NP: The American President (John Williams) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 ...and thought the Imperial March at the end AOTC was "really cool."Well, it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Yeah, even though it's 3 years early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Yeah, even though it's 3 years early.Foreshadowing, my friend. Even if it was foreshadowing with a hammer over the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Yeah, even though it's 3 years early.Foreshadowing, my friend. Forshadowing, my eye!!Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 If that's foreshadowing, then there is no reason why we didn't hear the theme for Ep III's Obi-Wan vs Anaking scene in back in 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeejaHalycon 0 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 We did, it was "Duel of the Fates". Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 It might be.I hope not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 ...and thought the Imperial March at the end AOTC was "really cool."Well, it was.It's only merit it that it gives me another variation of the Imperial March which I think is pretty neat,but Williams never meant to put it there,and he had composed something else which was removed.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,810 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Anyone hear the rerelease for Williams Oscarwinning score of Dances With Wolves?I saw the OST today in a shop. I thought about you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Techno, Hard Rock, Alternative? Morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 ...and thought the Imperial March at the end AOTC was "really cool."Well, it was.Yes, it was. 8O "Confrontation with Count Dooku and Finale" - Star Wars: Attack of the Clones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 ...and thought the Imperial March at the end AOTC was "really cool."Well, it was.Yes, it was. 8O "Confrontation with Count Dooku and Finale" - Star Wars: Attack of the ClonesI strongly disagree. It was all wrong. "The Imperial March" should not be heard until The Empire Strikes Back.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I knew you would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I knew you would.Because I'm right, and deep down inside you know it. 8O Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekUYoda 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Well, it's done now, isn't it? And even if, for continuity's sake, it shouldn't have appeared until ESB (given the Imperial theme in ANH), it still sounds pretty cool. I like how he didn't flat-out quote it with the existing accompanimental rhythm - the new one is very cool. Kind of says "this isn't the Empire yet but it obviously will be, for those of you still in the dark!." Maybe it is blatant and out of place, but I still like it! If you heard it and didn't know where it came from or why it was put there, wouldn't you think it sounded cool too? 8O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 No matter how "cool" you think it is, it's bad film scoring. It's wrong for the scene, it's wrong for the movie, and overall it's wrong for the series.It's been speculated that in The Empire Strikes Back, the reason why a lot of the music was dropped or changed in the beginning was so that when we finally do hear "The Imperial March" it's the concert version, which is big and fresh and not just a re-statement of a previously heard theme. It's just that much of an important cue. Now all of that is diminished, since we've now heard it several chapters earlier.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 It's just that much of an important cue. Now all of that is diminished, since we've now heard it several chapters earlier.NeilOnly if you are a complete idiot and watched Eps I, II and III before the original trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Only if you are a complete idiot and watched Eps I, IIThat's a more appropriate phrasing I think. 8O Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I couldn't care less about what the IM did for the series being placed there in AotC, I'm beyond caring about SW anymore. I agree that it was a spectacular version of the theme, and for that reason alone I'm glad it was there.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I couldn't care less about what the IM did for the series being placed there in AotC, I'm beyond caring about SW anymore. I agree that it was a spectacular version of the theme, and for that reason alone I'm glad it was there.Ray BarnsburyI agree, though it might be wrong for the IM to appear in Ep III, i sure hope it does, cause it's just such a good theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 But it's pretty much a copy of the version from ROTJ when the emperor arrives to the death star. He isn't saying this isn't the empire yet for those in the dark, he is saying, these are the the loyal emperor's servants!I think they should have used a more subtle version of the theme in AOTC, because it is the empires theme as well as vaders, but it works well showing the might of the empire by the time of TESB with vader having lots of power and the senate destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 It's been speculated that in The Empire Strikes Back, the reason why a lot of the music was dropped or changed in the beginning was so that when we finally do hear "The Imperial March" it's the concert version, which is big and fresh and not just a re-statement of a previously heard theme. It's just that much of an important cue. Now all of that is diminished, since we've now heard it several chapters earlier.None of the dropped music featured the Imperial March, save for the beginning of "The Ice Planet Hoth," but then it was replaced by "The Imperial Probe," which also features it. And I don't see what makes the concert version fresher than the original "Aboard the Executor" (personally I think the latter is much better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 A problem Williams might have faced is, how to use the imperial march for that scene which would fit the trilogy being the empire's theme. It should have been used subtlely, but that would be more difficult to get it to work dramatically that way, as a big finale for the movie. But maybe he tried something like that in that rumoured alternate version.I don't see what makes the concert version fresher than the original "Aboard the Executor" (personally I think the latter is much better).Well the Aboard the Executor to me sounds like a half completed version of the concert version. The concert version is orchestrated bigger and more layered. So perhaps the Aboard the Executor is an earlier version of the theme pending developement, it being so early in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 But maybe he tried something like that in that rumoured alternate versionIt's not a rumor.And Aboard the Executor is the best version of the Imperial March ever IMO,and not a "half completed" version.The brass in there is amazing.Too bad it was dropped,for whatever reason.At least it's on the SE cd'sK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 They should've added a Disco option for those of us who can still remember a certain take the SW main theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Errm...Btw rogue leader why aren't you on MSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 I just woke up briefly and decided t check out the board for a few moments. I gotta get back to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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