TIEfighter 0 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Is it just me or does anyone else think that one of the best moments of the Episode III music is the 20 seconds when Palpy,Vader and Tarkin stand on the bridge of the Star Destroyer at the end of the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Is it just me or does anyone else think that one of the best moments of the Episode III music is the 20 seconds when Palpy,Vader and Tarkin stand on the bridge of the Star Destroyer at the end of the music?You mean the bit where the high strings and woodwinds play the funeral theme and the basses play the Imperial March..?Yeah, that's good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeruid 0 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 For me the best part is Padme's funeral in Naboo mixed with the creation on Vader, where we can hear both funeral music and the Imperial March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ins 42 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 great work! you have definitely made the best out of the movie audio stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanand 0 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Considering the materials you have to work with, an outstanding edit. Now we can hear it in its full glory, the score really is brilliant. A number of outstanding moments are complimented by a large amount of clever underscore. Not too much of the boring TPM Coruscant-type boring underscore is very nice! Some of the looping and tracking is painful, though. The Grievous ship crash landing at the beginning is far far worse than I thought it was - and I thought it was bad...Still, roll on a (real) Ultimate Edition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 In terms of the sound effects, the audio source just isn't great, there is some clipping which I've cleaned up as best I've can - but I can always wait for a good 5.1 source that will allow me to !Yes,that yould be awsome.Hopefully by then somehow the whoile score will have leaked in Galaxies patches.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 In terms of the sound effects, the audio source just isn't great, there is some clipping which I've cleaned up as best I've can - but I can always wait for a good 5.1 source that will allow me to !Yes,that yould be awsome.Hopefully by then somehow the whoile score will have leaked in Galaxies patches.K.M.hehe , we can hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoslane 0 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 I enjoyed the edit immensly. Much thanks for this, and I can't wait until it can hopefully be completed without the dialogue and FX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 I enjoyed the edit immensly. Much thanks for this, and I can't wait until it can hopefully be completed without the dialogue and FX.One day, there may be enough resources to do that ... *hopes* ,... The release of a good 5.1 audio source will improve this release IMMENSLY because the rear audio music is louder and there is virtually no dialogue in the rear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Hey Guys,how can i get the Score ? please tell me i love the funeral theme of padme without the chor ... awesome and how it flows into the imperial march mmhmm so, please tell me.Thanks first.GreetzFrankSent u link via PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 This really is fantastic. Fantastic! Which editing software are you using, Jack?By the way, what are these Galaxy- files everyone talks about and how can I get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 emmm... i have just registered, but my question is: where is the link for downloading these themes??? thanks!!!No links have not and will not be provided in this thread.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papalpate 0 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 ok, thanks anyway for the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 PM Jack Chapple for the link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 This really is fantastic. Fantastic! Which editing software are you using, Jack?By the way, what are these Galaxy- files everyone talks about and how can I get them?I use Cubase SX.. and the Galaxy files are Music Files from the Star Wars Galaxies Video Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 188 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Great work, Jack! Though I will edit my own version of Anakin's Betrayal and Anakin's Dark Deeds for my listening pleasure, with just themissing finale bits mixed into the cd tracks.Thanks again!BTW: I noticed one film edit you didn't recreate, namely the shortening of the two bars with french horn around the 8:00 mark of Anakin's Betrayal (I think in the film this shows Yoda breaking down clutching his staff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 I see the MF.com invasion has begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Lol, my mailbox is flooded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Great work, Jack! Though I will edit my own version of Anakin's Betrayal and Anakin's Dark Deeds for my listening pleasure, with just themissing finale bits mixed into the cd tracks.Thanks again!BTW: I noticed one film edit you didn't recreate, namely the shortening of the two bars with french horn around the 8:00 mark of Anakin's Betrayal (I think in the film this shows Yoda breaking down clutching his staff).Lol, do you miss anything? ... THat was probably around the point I was thinking to myself "who the hell do these bastards think they are" and getting really pissed off with the shitty edits all over the place, Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Jack, I'm impressed with your work. I am scratching my head at the effort it must have taken to recreate some of the shocking music edits in the film (and why you'd find that a more satisfying listen), but one thing for sure that you've done is you've made it much easier for us to assess where cues have been cut/replaced etc.And I love the extended Birth of the Twins cue. One favorite. As is Anakin and Padme's reunion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 I really can't wait for the DVD so I can extract the rear Audio!!!! Anyone any idea when this is coming out, and any info on future star wars games/patches that may contain unreleased music?Thanks and it was my intention with this release to make it easier to assess where cuts were, hence the "film version" title... so. yeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Hmmmmm,all these these newcomers joining just to get this.Gone will they be in a few days.k.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExarKun 0 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 "Impressive, most impressive"!!!It's a shame that they don't release the complete Music from Epsiode II and Episode III. Such an astonishing work which John Williams has done, must reach the outside world. But you have done a little step closer to this. Hopefully they'll release it some day, since every score from the trilogy is out, they have to do it. (I think it's the same with the Lord of the Rings Scores)But as Obi-Wan would say: "Patience. You must have patience. Use the force..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 215 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 How can I change the file from m3u to mp3 to burn it to a disc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I have a question about the 'Padme's Visit' cue - is the reprise of 'Lament' here, which is tremendously effective, actually an independent recording, or is it the earlier cue without choir and looped? I hope it's an original choice, because it's an inspired linking on Williams' behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Cheese 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thank you for this great music. I was listening to it for the themes we all know and love. I don't know if anyone else picked up on it but near the very end of the "Rolling with Grievous and Sensing the Dark Side" track you can hear the Episode IV imperial theme! It plays at about the time Mace says "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi....aren't I captain obvious?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterKyobi9d9 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 You mean Episode V Imperial Theme? , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Cheese 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Actually, no...I mean the one that plays in Episode IV for the Imperials before the Imperial march was ever written.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I have a question about the 'Padme's Visit' cue - is the reprise of 'Lament' here, which is tremendously effective, actually an independent recording, or is it the earlier cue without choir and looped? I hope it's an original choice, because it's an inspired linking on Williams' behalf.It feels too right to be tracked IMO. According to the score reports it was the first cue recorded, and I think our guy from the London Voices said that Lament was recorded all in one go with chorus and orchestra, so this is most likely a different recording.John- wondering who all these people are and if they'll still be here tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thanks John. That was my feeling too. I think the 'Heroes Collide' cue sounds so much better coming out of that reprise of 'Lament' than out of 'Padme's Ruminations' on album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterKyobi9d9 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Actually, no...I mean the one that plays in Episode IV for the Imperials before the Imperial march was ever written....Ohhh, whoops :oops: Read your post a little too fast I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thanks John. That was my feeling too. I think the 'Heroes Collide' cue sounds so much better coming out of that reprise of 'Lament' than out of 'Padme's Ruminations' on album.Film order is always better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Some people don't believe that's true, but I'm amazed how I always seem to prefer the film order of cues.... oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Cheese 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Lol, that's ok. Reading is fun-damental. Minus the fun part if you happen to be reading As I lay Dying. Anyway, did anyone else pick up on that subtle hint there? I thought it was a nice tie together, however brief and soft the cue was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I'm making an OST + videogame edit (it will run 77 minutes or so). It won't have any of the film edits... just simple presentation of the music, for the most part. However, in several places I had to stick cues to together (i.e. the short Grievous fanfares from mus_avatar_platform_final.mp3) to avoid leaving tracks with awful-sounding endings (I can't fake them with reverb very well).Would it be possible to post a detailed cue list as to how you the cues are placed? (Preferably without the sticking together - I'll do the same in my edit, but it's to have a clear picture.) A cue list like the ones in the Complete Cue List thread, with reference to where you got the music for the scene (that part of track 1 from the CD, particular track from the game etc.). I'd be very grateful for this me too My thanks in advance cerrabore I won't be able to upload my edit like JackChapple has (unless somebody is kind enough to provide web space ).Turns out this runs about eighty-five minutes, so I will have to split it up. Here is my track/cue list. OST means original soundtrack, and GAL means Star Wars Galaxies (the videogame files). Unfortunately, I didn't record the volume adjustments - and there were plenty. You'll have to manually do that by comparison.DISC 101. 20th CENTURY FOX FANFARETPM UE CD 1 01 all02. STAR WARS MAIN TITLE/BATTLE OF CORUSCANTOST 01 0:00-4:46 (fake ending with reverb)mix GAL mus_wookiee_quest_accept 0:11-end (This may not be the correct order, but *part* of this cue shows up in the film, and besides, I needed something to fix up that awful ending at OST 01 4:46.)03. BATTLE IN THE HANGAROST 07 0:00-0:57 (fake ending with reverb)04. THE ELEVATOR SCENEOST 01 5:21-end05. BATTLE ON THE BRIDGEOST 07 0:57-end06. FLYING THE HALF-SHIP (Please change my titles .)TPM UE CD 2 28 all (Yes, I know this is tracked, but unlike in the film, I will not edit it, and damned if it isn't a nice cue! Furthermore, I will use the alternate take. Not sure what videogame is the best source - I think Galaxies, which is high-quality, has most of it.)07. ANOTHER HAPPY LANDINGGAL mus_wookiee_quest_success 0:20-end (fake beginning with reversal and reverb)08. GRIEVOUS SPEAKS TO LORD SIDIOUS/ANAKIN'S DREAMOST 13 0:00-1:51mix OST 02 all09. COUNCIL APPOINTMENTOST 06 2:27-3:13 (fake beginning and ending with reversal and reverb)10. ANAKIN AND OBI-WAN CONFERGAL mus_kashyyyk_rodian_safari 0:00-0:33 (fake ending with reverb)OST 06 3:14-end (fake beginning with reversal and reverb)11. PALPATINE'S TEACHINGS OST 06 0:00-1:38mix GAL mus_kashyyyk_droid_cave all (I know this isn't correct, because part of mus_kashyyyk_droid_cave is the music for Obi-Wan climbing out of the water, and the end is for an Anakin/Padmé conversation. However, it seems the game designers mixed this cue with the ballet music, and I don't feel like dealing with an impossible edit like that.)12. OBI-WAN'S DEPARTURE (ALTERNATIVE)GAL mus_rodian_quest_success 0:00-0:23 (fake ending with reverb)13. ARRIVAL AT UTAPAU/SPYING ON GRIEVOUSGAL mus_trandoshan_quest_accept allmix OST 05 0:00-1:24 (fake ending with reverb)14. GRIEVOUS ATTACKSGAL mus_wookiee_quest_fail allmix GAL mus_avatar_platform_final 0:06mix/paste OST 01 4:46-5:21mix/paste GAL mus_avatar_platform_final 0:58-end15. PALPATINE'S SEDUCTION/ROLLING WITH GRIEVOUSOST 06 1:37-2:30 (fake beginning with reversal and reverb)mix/paste GAL mus_kashyyyk_ryratt_trail allmix OST 05 1:24-end (Yes, I know about the "Rolling with Grievous" loop at the end, but I don't want to deal with making a clean ending on "Fighting with Grievous." )16. PADMÉ'S RUMINATIONS/MURDER MISSIONOST 08 all17. LAMENTOST 04 0:00-2:51mix/paste GAL mus_kashyyyk_elders_hut 0:00-0:25mix/paste OST 04 2:52-endDISC 21. ENTER LORD VADEROST 11 all2. CRIMES OF THE EMPIRE (This title is taken from the Sanskrit chorus in this track, which sings "Grievous are the crimes of the empire.")OST 10 all3. PADMÉ LEAVES FOR MUSTAFAROST 13 1:51-end4. REUNION WITH ANAKINGAL mus_rodian_quest_accept all5. OBI-WAN VS. VADER/YODA VS. SIDIOUSOST 09 allmix TPM OST 02 0:38-2:03mix/paste TPM OST 02 3:06-3:33mix/paste TPM OST 02 4:08-endmix mus_rodian_quest_fail all6. BATTLE OF THE HEROESOST 03 all7. THE IMMOLATION SCENEOST 12 allmix mus_kashyyyk_dead_forest 0:29-end (fake beginning with reversal and reverb)8. THE BIRTH OF THE TWINS/PADMÉ'S DESTINYOST 14 0:00-1:24mix/paste GAL mus_trandoshan_quest_success 0:20-0:30 (Yes, out of order, but I'd rather have it here than as an awkward short track between "Birth" and "New Hope.")mix/paste OST 14 1:25-end9. A NEW HOPE/END CREDITSOST 15 all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thank you for this great music. I was listening to it for the themes we all know and love. I don't know if anyone else picked up on it but near the very end of the "Rolling with Grievous and Sensing the Dark Side" track you can hear the Episode IV imperial theme! It plays at about the time Mace says "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi....aren't I captain obvious?"I noticed that as well... though the music is tracked from AotC. What scene is it? The one where the Senators listen to Obi-Wan's holographic report, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Cheese 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Is that really tracked? I had no clue...Leaves to go find AotC DVD....Now I am slightly disappointed (good music none the less). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thank you for this great music. I was listening to it for the themes we all know and love. I don't know if anyone else picked up on it but near the very end of the "Rolling with Grievous and Sensing the Dark Side" track you can hear the Episode IV imperial theme! It plays at about the time Mace says "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi....aren't I captain obvious?"I noticed that as well... though the music is tracked from AotC. What scene is it? The one where the Senators listen to Obi-Wan's holographic report, I think.I know the bit you're talking about. I can't remember where it's tracked into Episode III, but the cue is from Corde's death after the attack on Padme's ship at the start of AOTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Cerrabore - why not preserve the statement of the Grievous theme in the opening track from 4:46-5:21? It's too good an edit on the OST to do without in my opinion. Really gives the feeling that the battle cue is building to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Cerrabore - why not preserve the statement of the Grievous theme in the opening track from 4:46-5:21? It's too good an edit on the OST to do without in my opinion. Really gives the feeling that the battle cue is building to something.According to Jim Ware, it belongs in the Obi-Wan/Grievous duel. If you look, that is where I have put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Cheese 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Well, kudos to Mr. Williams for putting in that reference, even if it is tracked from Episode II.Why would he choose to use that theme for Corde's death?I'm a bit confused now, the only relation is the imperial sirens you hear in the backround.Gotta love the sirens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I know where it belongs, and I'm cool with the reasoning behind that, but surely as a listening experience it wouldn't hurt to have it appear in both spots. After all, it does appear in the opening battle in the film (albeit in a slightly different place), and since we don't have the cue following from 4:46, and the edit on the OST must work better than fake reverb, why not leave it as is as well as placing it in the Grievous fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I know where it belongs, and I'm cool with the reasoning behind that, but surely as a listening experience it wouldn't hurt to have it appear in both spots. After all, it does appear in the opening battle in the film (albeit in a slightly different place), and since we don't have the cue following from 4:46, and the edit on the OST must work better than fake reverb, why not leave it as is as well as placing it in the Grievous fight?I'm considering that. I guess it wouldn't hurt. On the other hand, I would be tracking music within the set... but speaking of that, I did include "The Tide Turns." So yeah, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 JackChapple!Thank you for your great work! It is a joy to listen to & I can't wait for a full release! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Could it be?Waffle and man at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 He's more waffle now than man. Toasted and edible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 All future requests for this must be made here. Any requests made in this thread will be deleted.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 2 things:The cue when Yoda is speaking to the council as a hologram on Kassshkk is the cue The Senate from TPM UE.also ***Worth checking out!***I just spotted a new SITH MOTIF by Williams.It appears in full when Palpatine speaks of Darth Plageis at the opera(Exactly at:Narration at the Ballet &The Wookie Army 4:20 to 4:40,when palpatine says Darth Plageis was a dark lord of the sith so powerful and wise he could use the midichlorians to create life) ,then a short version at the end of Palpatine's Seduction in choir form(end of ryratt's trail file).That little new motif is just bone chilling.Holy crap it's fantastic,he should have made this the main theme of RotS.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Many many thanks Cerrabore!8. THE BIRTH OF THE TWINS/PADMÉ'S DESTINY OST 14 0:00-1:24 mix/paste GAL mus_trandoshan_quest_success 0:20-0:30 (Yes, out of order, but I'd rather have it here than as an awkward short track between "Birth" and "New Hope.") mix/paste OST 14 1:25-end Thus, the short ten-second track actually belongs between Track 14 and Track 15?Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanand 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Having just listened to it, I think it may be a motif, at the very least. It is at the very least the same bit of music, I am pretty sure. It is creepy, and worked very well in the film if I remember correctly. Nice spot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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