robthehand 3 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I was thinking about it recently (just rewatched Superman and Superman II), and I really can't imagine Superman in a modern film - when we have dark films like Batman Begins and blockbusters like Spider-Man, Superman just looks more and more dated. Don't get me wrong - I love the original films, or rather original *film* (the sequels were rubbish for different reasons), but I can't picture audiences accepting it now.But I'll still go and see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I was thinking about it recently (just rewatched Superman and Superman II), and I really can't imagine Superman in a modern film - when we have dark films like Batman Begins and blockbusters like Spider-Man, Superman just looks more and more dated. Don't get me wrong - I love the original films, or rather original *film* (the sequels were rubbish for different reasons), but I can't picture audiences accepting it now.But I'll still go and see it. I have full trust in Bryan Singer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 1st the love theme and now the very character...Superman has been here from the 1930s in various forms, so i think he has not aged at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I agree with Alex in trusting Singer. Thank goodness they waited to get the right guy to helm the film. I shudder at the thought of some of those rumors that were buzzing when McG was going to direct this. Beyonce as Lois Lane.. Nic Cage as Superman...... oh my, I have to go lie down now.That in and of itself should make anyone who was leary feel much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I was thinking about it recently (just rewatched Superman and Superman II), and I really can't imagine Superman in a modern film - when we have dark films like Batman Begins and blockbusters like Spider-Man, Superman just looks more and more dated. Don't get me wrong - I love the original films, or rather original *film* (the sequels were rubbish for different reasons), but I can't picture audiences accepting it now.But I'll still go and see it. I have full trust in Bryan Singer. Why, pray tell? I don't recall you having gret love for his films up to this point. Morlock- who loves The Usual Suspects and think Singer did a wonderful job on X2, but has serious misgivings about this movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I don't know. If anybody can do it, I'm sure Singer can. But I'm gonna be wary until the day I finally see it.Ozzel - who will likely be avoiding trailers for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Well, Smallville is doing quite well in adapting Superman to the modern times. And considering how dated the original movies already are, it's no-loose situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I have full trust in Bryan Singer.But Superman will be a big movie "spectacle" aiming for mass appeal! What's the difference between this and King Kong? They are both special effects driven, neither of which you have seen or have even been completed yet. Alex, you're a premature opinionater. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I have full trust in Bryan Singer.But Superman will be a big movie "spectacle" aiming for mass appeal!So was X-Men, and that was a fantastic film. X2 wasn't too bad, either.I also have full trust in Singer. Though from some ofthe entries in his video blog, he's working overtime, which could hurt the post-production process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 But Superman will be a big movie "spectacle" aiming for mass appeal! What's the difference between this and King Kong?Kong is a remake of a movie which I, as far as I remember, thought was really very good.Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I have full trust in Bryan Singer.But Superman will be a big movie "spectacle" aiming for mass appeal! What's the difference between this and King Kong? They are both special effects driven, neither of which you have seen or have even been completed yet. Alex, you're a premature opinionater. I really think I said something more along the lines of, "nothing but spectacle", meaning movies that tend to hurry from one special effect scene to another and have not much else going for them. But most importantly, I was talking about movies that, and this is how I perceive them, clearly have been written with a young audience in mind (the way these films communicate, to me it's so clear they addressing an adolescent audience). So far, I think Singer has been treating his audience less virginally, and because of that, I have full trust in him. But I said all this before, so you kinda missed my point.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 really think I said something more along the lines of, "nothing but spectacle", meaning movies that tend to hurry from one special effect scene to another and have not much else going for them. But most importantly, I was talking about movies that, and this is how I perceive them, clearly have been written with a young audience in mind (the way these films communicate, to me it's so clear they addressing an adolescent audience). So far, I think Singer has been treating his audience less virginally, and because of that, I have full trust in him. But I said all this before, so you kinda missed my point.Oh, you've read the script for King Kong already? So, something that is written for an adolescent or childrens audience is automatically bad? They automatically have nothing going for them? You must not think much of the mind of a child, Mr. I-Think-Like-A-Film-Critic. There are some wonderful children's films out there, some that appeal to most primary of senses. Now about Singer, do you think X-Men and X2 weren't written for an adolescent audience? What did they "have going for them" besides all the special effects and mutants (ie. spectacle)? What does X-Men "have going for it" that King Kong and LOTR don't?Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Believe it or not, what bothers me most about the new Superman is the costume. Why do we have a three- dimensional "S" now? It just looks lost on that suit. I don't like the colour either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I trust Singer, and all should go well (if the webdocs are any indication), as long as Ottman doesn't do with JW's themes was Ken Thorne did to them for the previous Super-sequels.Speaking of Ottman, during the commentary on the X-Men dvd, Singer mentions how he regretted having to go with Michael Kamen for the score to the first film, but had to because Ottman wasn't available. Now, listening to both soundtracks, I have to say that Ottman's X-2 soundtrack didn't exactly knock me over.Fingers are crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 The mythology and the iconography of the Superman world are so powerful, that when well handled can result in pure magic. It's not like this movie is going to be worse than the previous two. What do we have to lose anyway?It sure worked with Batman this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Superman one is a very emotional film, something I think this new one will lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Most movies that come out these days are crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I think if I was more into dialogue dramas I would be in movie heaven. There seem to be lots of those. Actually, I feel pretty well sated by the last 6 years of event movies. Some of them will age well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Who can say, the writers of this film are the same people who did X2, and that was pretty good (if you can get passed James Marsden's performance). But it also wasn't spectacular. If Superman is going to compete with the original one with Reeves, then they've better pulled out all of the stops.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigscore 0 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Long time lurker, first time poster.IMHO – with all due respect to Ottman and his ego – the best man for the job is still alive, kicking and quite capable. It's Williams himself, of course. Why not bring back the man who set the tone for not one but five films (including this new version)? The new film's budget could certainly handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Well, Singer always works with Ottman, that besides, is also the film's editor. But I agree with you, they're not getting the best man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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