ChrisAfonso 186 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Just read this in an interview with Mike Newell, did this already come up?Q: Why did you replace John Williams with another composer - Patrick Doyle?A: I wanted a different composer because in the film there was a tremendous amount of music that the actors had to work with, dancing music, walking music, there's lots and lots of music. So it's very difficult for me to work with a composer who is 6,000 miles away. And John Williams lives in Los Angeles, so I needed somebody who was right there. And I've worked with Pat, Patrick Doyle, who is a great composer, twice before, also on Donnie Brasco and he is a great man, to work with, he gives you a lot.(Source: "]http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=55888)I can't completely believe his reasoning, as Williams already did advance music for PS and PoA, so it's not a thing nheard of from him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 "it's very difficult for me to work with a composer who is 6,000 miles away"What a piss weak excuse that is. How many times has Williams worked with the LSO? It's not like JW hasn't worked overseas before. It sounds more like penny pinching to me. New Director who didn't like the idea of paying the going rate for a high class composer like Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Well I guess Newell may just like working with Doyle. A loyalty thing maybe. I don't think you should read too much into it tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 He is just embarrased (now) for not hiring him, and is trying to justify what he did. Williams the three potter scores have been recorded in london, and if it was going to be something like COS, the adapter surely would be focused 100% on the project... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 :? oh yeah,I forgot, Williams doesn't do "walking music" and "lots and lots of music"K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 3 Spielberg projects and 1 SW movie this year... Williams wouldn't have been able to write another score, even if he wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 True, this must be his busiest year in about 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I think this is a non factor. Williams wanted to score Memoirs of a Geisha and it appears he jumped directly to Munich. I kinda have a feeling that if Williams wanted to score GOF the producers would have taken him over Patrick Doyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanand 0 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I think that Newell has forgotten that powered flight has been around for over 100 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Williams is the one who dumped the project, not the other way arround. Delusions of grandeur of Nevell.I still think williams could have pulled a COS way of score... (not the way it ended, williams rushing composing everything, but creating just the themes)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I still don't think it was entirely Newell's decision (or even at all), but that comment makes him look like a fool.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Of course it was Williams' choice; which moron would turn down a John Williams score? The "too far away" excuse is utter hogwash! "Music the actors can work with ..." where's the problem? A composer can't conform a cue just because he works in another country? Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I think that Newell has forgotten that powered flight has been around for over 100 years.Well, just take a look at what Pete Jackson is doing with JNH on Kong. Williams technically doesn't need to leave Los Angeles, even though it's been stated several times that Williams is the one that passed on GoF because of Memoirs. His loyalty to Spielberg is quite a strong one.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 True or not, it does make sense to me. I've always said that one of Doyle's strengths is pre-written source music, and that's something Williams hardly ever does. I still want to hear Williams' version of the graveyard scene, but the dance cues are where I think Doyle really had a clear advantage.Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 It like Mike Newell working with Patrick Doyle and Steven Spielberg working with John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 You haven't heard Williams until you've heard it in the original Doyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composer_Fan 2 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 :? oh yeah,I forgot, Williams doesn't do "walking music" and "lots and lots of music"K.M. LOL Yeah, what was up with that nonsense? I smell B.S.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I smell B.S....I warned you not to hold the Goblet of Fire score to close to your nose.Tim, who's just cracking wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I wanna know what the hell walking music is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 That part for the Durmstrang entrance, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composer_Fan 2 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 ^They were marching, or something....~Tyler, who doesn't "walk" like those coreographed Durmstang guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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