CharlieSherry 0 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Surely you jest!? Certainly not by classical purists and musicologists anyway! Severely underrated by the latter individuals unfortunately! Honey I Shrunk The Kids - James Horner (A man with alot of enemies!) Not me though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Why would someone ask this here?In most people's opinions here he is UNDERATED. Not overated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Yeah, right, okay, I'm going to take a deep breath and hope that this was not asked because someone actually thought it was true. *sheesh* :roll: Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 under rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 He's a Goldsmith fan. To them, of course he's overrated because Goldsmith is extremely underrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Slightly overrated.Why am I suddenly against Ren? Twice now this has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 John Williams is not over-rated, but sadly there are many great film composers who are underrated and un-appreciated on alot of these forums. :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Explain this act of blasphemy! And Mark, like Herrmann, North, Rozsa, Korngold and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 ...but sadly there are many great film composers who are underrated and un-appreciated on alot of these forums.Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Explain this act of blasphemy! I didn't know that going against Ren was blasphemous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 I men tsaying slightly overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 The only composer who is overrated IMO is Horner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Slightly overrated. :roll: :roll: :roll: You have a right to your opinion, but it is not on shared by many at this forum.Joe, suddenly remembering the lines from LOST IN SPACE, crush, kill, destroy. LOL LOL LOL LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Horner is overrated, but not nearly as much as Zimmer and his MV bunch.Marian - who thinks Williams seems to be overrated, but only as a conductor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieSherry 0 Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 Hey scores fans:Don't get wrong with me. It is true that my favourite composer is Jerry Goldsmith but John Williams can be my second or third (Danny Elfman can be the second...) choice for my best composer. :? :oops: I am terrible sorry if I have hurt your feeling for that incredible composer called John Williams.In fact he can be the man that make me entered in film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieSherry 0 Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieSherry 0 Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 Wrong question.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 What was the question? :dontgetit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieSherry 0 Posted August 15, 2002 Author Share Posted August 15, 2002 Is Williams overrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Sorry. That would have been funnier had we not posted at roughly the same time. Now it looks as if I am responding to your "wrong question" remark, which I am not.Figo, tired of explaining his jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 eek2 You still have much to learn, my very young apprentice.Jeff -- who doesn't think any composer is currently overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 No he is not over rated. Zimmer is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 This is a pointless thread. (as are many) Every single person has a different opinion about music- each person has to answer this to himself. I believe that John Williams is the greatest film composer who ever lived, that Jerry Goldsmith has produced some of the most boring music ever, that Hans Zimmer is the best composer for action movies and that James Horner gets a lot of bad press. Others have said that John Williams is extriemely repetetive, that Jerry Goldsmith is the best compser ever, and that Zimmer and Horner are talentless and unoriginal. A person's love for music has always been a mystery to me. How someone could say that 'Cutthroat island' is a great score- I don't understand. How someone could say 'Hook' is not I don't understand. Although this will lead to nowhere- I think people should stop arguing about 'Which composer is better'- as the answer may be different for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Depends on what perspective you are coming at for Zimmer. In general I don't see that much support for Zimmer to say he is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 In general I don't see that much support for Zimmer to say he is overrated.You know that's true. It seems like everyone (except me of course ) says that Zimmer is overated...Justin - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 It seems that I am the only one who thinks that Alex North is up there with Williams and Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Hester 0 Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 the answer to your question is...NO censored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 It seems that I am the only one who thinks that Alex North is up there with Williams and Goldsmith Agony & The Ecstacy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Certainly not. He deserves every single bit of accolades given. I think Zimmer might be overrated, though, like someone above said. He HAS done some truly excellent stuff but lately, nothing has impressed me much. Although his Pearl Harbor score was quite beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 I think Zimmer might be overrated, though, like someone above said. He HAS done some truly excellent stuff but lately, nothing has impressed me much. Although his Pearl Harbor score was quite beautiful.It's beautiful, but it's not original (actually a copy of the 'Journey to the Line' theme from The Thin Red Line) and very repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 In a way, yeah, it is taken from that score, which is gorgeous, best thing about the movie (which I found to be incredibly boring). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Boring, except for the attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Overrated as of late: Howard Shore. At least in these forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Bringing back 17 month old threads now?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Ah, the annoying comment I was hoping not to appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I think Shore's LoTR is overrated, but his earlier work is great and very underrated. Just watched Ed Wood again, and it's a joy with that score. It's a tribute to Ed Wood. And I wrongly dissed Mrs. Doubtfire a few weeks back- it's a very good score. Silence of The Lambs is great, and I think the whole trilogy has great music- I actualy think that Zimmer's score is the best of the three, and one of his best and most unique efforts. Philadelphia is good, but very moody. Dogma was great fun- I still can't imagine him working with Kevin Smith. I've never seen a Cronenberg film, but I'm told a couple of them have great scores. The Score and Panic Room had very good themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I thought Fellowship was slightly overrated, it did get a bit repetetive (especially the theme for the Nazgul). But The Two Towers was grossly underrated. Return of the King is sorta neutral.But to answer the original question, No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Ahh nice thread, seems like just yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I think Shore's LoTR is overrated, but his earlier work is great and very underrated. Just watched Ed Wood again, and it's a joy with that score. It's a tribute to Ed Wood. And I wrongly dissed Mrs. Doubtfire a few weeks back- it's a very good score. Silence of The Lambs is great, and I think the whole trilogy has great music- I actualy think that Zimmer's score is the best of the three, and one of his best and most unique efforts. Philadelphia is good, but very moody. Dogma was great fun- I still can't imagine him working with Kevin Smith. I've never seen a Cronenberg film, but I'm told a couple of them have great scores. The Score and Panic Room had very good themes.Shore's LOTR scores are, in my opinion, the greatest scores since the original Star Wars trilogy, and three of the greatest scores ever. I listen to them everyday, as often as I ever did any of JWs scores. I have listened to ROTK in its entirety everyday since I bought it, I can't say the same thing about a Williams score since Schindler's List. On those three LOTR CDs of Shores there isn't a single track that I don't enjoy. I am constantly hearing things that I hadn't heard before with LOTR. So, I definitely don't think LOTR is overrated, in fact, if anything they are underrated, TTT should have at least been nominated for both score and song (I'm still shocked that Gollum's Song wasn't nominated, if it had a "better" title and sung by a pop star it would have been) and ROTK should be nominated again for both, but I already know that it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Ah, the annoying comment I was hoping not to appear.17 months to the day, no less. I'm impressed.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesk 0 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 In general I don't see that much support for Zimmer to say he is overrated.You know that's true. It seems like everyone (except me of course ) says that Zimmer is overated...Justin - Zimmer is overrated, Justin, get over it. People tend to associate good filmmusic composing with good films. If the film was cool, then they say the music was cool. If we check why we like John Williams, we'll find in this forum that many of the music people hear, they haven't even seen the movie, or have forgotten about it, or don't see it too much (I like Spacecamp and Dracula, for instance ). That's a feat for a composer, having fans remembering what he dreams to forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 In general I don't see that much support for Zimmer to say he is overrated.You know that's true. It seems like everyone (except me of course ) says that Zimmer is overated...Justin - Zimmer is overrated, Justin, get over it. What do you mean Zimmer's overrated? he's trashed everywhere, especialy on forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 He's popular. That he's trashed by experienced film music fans should be more evidence he's overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Anyone who answers yes goes on this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I think he's so trashed, that he's underrated. He at least still has new kinds of scores and even experiments, as opposed to Horner, who for some reason is trashed and loved simultaniously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I think he's so trashed, that he's underrated. He at least still has new kinds of scores and even experiments, as opposed to Horner, who for some reason is trashed and loved simultaniously.Damn right! I also would say he is underrated by alot of folks out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I was watching Pirates of the Caribbean the other day (nice movie, BTW), and the score sounded exactly like Zimmer, but the credit was for some other guy, but later on the credits not only Zimmer's name appeared but also other clones including Glennie-Smith. This seems more like a factory of sounds instead of art, as Joe would put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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