Jay 37,364 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 So computers were used, but it wasn't CGI...... what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 The ships going into warp I am sure were CGI effects just done better over time. BTW when Troi started wearing the duty uniforms is when Edward Jellico took command of the Enterprise for the short time in 2 part episode Chain Of Command a few episodes prior to Timescape. He preferred that all of his officers wore the right attire when they were on duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Computers were already used on Star Wars, Jason. To control the camera movements of certain effect shots. They were also used to manipulate traditional optical effects sometimes. Perhaps thats what was done in your example. Gonna watch Timescape now actually. I recall it being quite a good one. [edit] Jason, just watched the shot you mentioned. It's not CGI. Trent is right that it's a borrowed shot from DS9. It's done using model photography but most likely some manipulation was done using computers. Which would make it a computer manipulated shor rather than a computer generated one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Computers were used for the Genesis planet animation in The Wrath of Khan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Interesting factoid, if irrelevant to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 I am in a room. With lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I thought Captain Jellico was rather unfairly despised by the Enterprise crew. He was a right-wing conservative Captain on a ship full of ultra-liberal left-wing space hippies. Picard was far too diplomatic with the Cardassians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 TNG was a brilliant show because it was 100% politically Neutral. Concieved in the Reagan 80's of the end of the Cold War, and ran through the liberal Clinton Era virtually unchanged. It truly represented the best of us! Star Trek is better than everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Deep Space Nine is better, but TNG is more popular and beloved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 DS9 is Post Cold War america at war, with Clinton era ideals. So more left wing. Enterprise was post 9/11 right paranoia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Pulaski was a more interesting character than Dr. Chrusher! Discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Pulaski certainly irritated Picard to no end. Beverly was just the widow of the best friend Picard ordered to his death, a woman he never quite formed a successful relationship with in the prime timeline. I'm not sure if Pulaski had history with Picard, long before she saved his life, or he just felt intimidated by women his own age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 She was not only more interesting, she was a better character, and, in an odd way, she was sexier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I didn't dislike the Doctors on TNG, but I didn't love them like TOS, DS9 and Voyager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I did like Dr Beverly's camel toe. I would not have wanted to see Katherine Pulaski's, though I would have liked to see Ann Mulhall's or Miranda Jones'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I too liked Pulaski more than Crusher. It's a shame she was only around for one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I can't say that I remotely prefer the Pulaski dynamic with the rest of the crew to Crusher's, least of all with Picard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Why Deep Space Nine and Voyager Aren’t On Blu-ray… And Why They May Never Be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Victim of conservative 80's tv practices. Pity because not much later tv began to future proof, so we can have X-Files and Friends in 1080p, but never two very expensive to produce Trek tv shows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I suppose if some billionaire fan comes along and donates $40 million to Paramount, you guys will be all set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Deep Space Nines space battles in HD will be a sight to behold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Coincidentally, yesterday I ordered the Next Generation complete series blu ray box set that came out last year. Finally came down in price enough on Amazon for me to bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: Why Deep Space Nine and Voyager Aren’t On Blu-ray… And Why They May Never Be At least affordable box sets of those two shows on DVD arrive next week. That's better than nothing. Too bad I just watched them over the last year and don't need to for at least another decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I never got them when they first came out but will this time. I still need to get TOS, TNG, and Enterprise on Blu-Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I'm getting Deep Space Nine. The packaging is really nice. They still look really good on my Sony Trinitron. You're watching it the way it was originally broadcast. Actually, better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I found this really interesting piece on DeviantArt of a guy who is building a 3D model of the refit Enterprise. Now, 3D models are of course a dime a dozen, so what's so interesting about this guy is that he's actually building the model as if it were a real version of the ship he were building. Girders, warp coils, tiniest details... What's so interesting about this is how it's scaled. He's made this using the bridge as the starting point. And it answers a key question about the scale of the Kelvin ships. There is no way that the Kelvin Enterprises are 725m in length. Look at the tiny guy there, on the left of the second deck of the saucer rim. That's the same scale as the guys working on the saucer in the end sequence of Beyond. And in that sequence, you can see that the saucer rim only has two decks. There are more decks in Beyond's Ent-A's neck, but that's because the neck is taller than the refit. About 8 or 9 decks compared to TMP's 6. So, there's one of two possible explanations: #1 - the scale for the TOS/TMP ships is way off to begin with. This is not likely at all as we can see that each deck aboard the Enterprise has roughly that amount of vertical room as shown in the linked diagram, though there is a spanner in the works when you consider just how small the shuttlebays on the Enterprise and Enterprise refit are. That could just be down to the set designers though. Could you imagine, if that is indeed the case, the same logic that was used to make the Kelvin Enterprise 725 metres in length was applied to the scale of the TOS Enterprise? I'm sure it'd wind up being a lot smaller than the 288 metres it is stated to be. #2 - The Kelvin timeline ships have their scaling completely wrong and they are in fact much closer to their Prime timeline counterparts in scale. I think #2 is most likely. The Enterprise would then sit at the originally-stated 367 metres. Still larger than the TOS and Refit Enterprises but definitely more consistent with the deck sizes. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 2/2/2017 at 10:36 PM, Rose Dawson said: I'm getting Deep Space Nine. The packaging is really nice. The outer box looks nice but I've read the inner boxes are poorly made. If you do buy it, I'd be interested to know what you think of its construction. It's dropped below $90 already on Amazon, so once it hits & 50, I may bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Ha... ha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Star Trek humour. It's funny to Trekkies, presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Star Wars fan scum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,360 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 On 27/03/2017 at 3:47 PM, Stefancos said: Oh Spock, you DOG! Doubt any outfits like hers will be making it into Star Trek : Discovery, somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Oh come on! They gotta put a little bit of sex in there! Its Star Trek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,360 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I dunno, Steef ... have you seen the amount of online flak that Karen Gillan's outfit in the Jumanji follow-up/reboot/whatever it is has had levelled at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 No, and I dont see how it relates to LOTR? The show thats given us Uhura and Rand in mini skirts, Troi in a tight as fuck cheerleaders outfit and Seven of Nine will need to have some eyecandy on Discovery! DS9 was as chaste as I want Trek to be! This far...no further! Otherwise it would just be Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: No, and I dont see how it relates to Star Wars. Are you drunk today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Not yet. It's early still. But Ill fix my post. Thanks. Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Stefancos said: DS9 was as chaste as I want Trek to be! This far...no further! DS9, chaste? Didn't it feature the first primetime woman on woman kiss on American TV? That was a few seasons before the good Intendant chewed up the stage, before another episode ended with the implications of how a shapeshifter could please his "solid" woman. 5 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: I dunno, Steef ... have you seen the amount of online flak that Karen Gillan's outfit in the Jumanji follow-up/reboot/whatever it is has had levelled at it? I want to know how she plans to keep the mosquitoes off her exposed tracts of land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Well The Intendant first appeared in season two and straight away showed her interest in Kira. The lesbian kiss, which the producers insist wasnt a lesbian kiss, it was a story about taboo love took place in season 4. The intendant also has her way with the new Ally McBeal Dax in season 7. Slightly more subtle than having a borg babe with huge...attachements...strut around the ship every week in a skin tight, non regulation uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Ah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Thank you for that contrition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Thank you for that contrition! You have me confused with someone who's afraid of committing a religious sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I forget you got married. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Oh shit, I forgot, yesterday was Friday and I ate pork. I should say a few Hail Marys, two Our Fathers, and one Act of Contrition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,360 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 21 hours ago, Stefancos said: No, and I dont see how it relates to LOTR? The show thats given us Uhura and Rand in mini skirts, Troi in a tight as fuck cheerleaders outfit and Seven of Nine will need to have some eyecandy on Discovery! DS9 was as chaste as I want Trek to be! This far...no further! Otherwise it would just be Star Wars. Why did you mention LOTR, you crazy Dutchman? :/ I just meant that skimpy outfits on attractive female characters now result in Generation Offended's keyboard warriors lining up to slag them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Has anybody picked up the Bridge Crew VR game? The promo material says that it puts you in the Captain's Chair of the USS Aegis in the Kelvin timeline. What it didn't tell you until very recently is that there is one other ship you get to sit in the Captain's chair of. Yup, the game has two ships, the Kelvin USS Aegis and the TOS Enterprise. They've done a spectacular job recreating it, from the screenshots I've seen (as I don't have PSVR so I can't play it - I would buy it if I did). The above is a screenshot from the game but there's plenty more examples of how good it looks with dynamic lighting that mean that the argument that JJ Abrams had that the Enterprise wasn't detailed enough just doesn't fly any more. The screenshots also show that, with the right lighting, the TOS Enterprise would have worked quite well on the big screen IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I was going to send a link to Stefancos, he'd surely be in heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Star Trek? VR? Where can I pay???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 Does it let you massage Kira's feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Ooooohhhhh!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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