Do you like the movie "Munich"?

[Jessie Lohner 0]

Do you like Munich? People seem to either love it or hate it, there's no middle ground. What about you? Just vote without thinking too much - yes or no!

Personally, I love it. It's a great Spielberg movie... although of course not on the same level as his masterpieces like Jaws or E.T. or Schindler's List.

[Quintus 6,499]

Yes I enjoyed it immensely. As a political thriller, it pushes all the right buttons.

[Romão 2,473]

Yes, very much

[Jeshopk 8]

Twas quite good.

[GrizzlyAdams 0]

Absolutely loved it. Spielberg completely nailed it. Completely the right feel for this type of film set in that time period. The zoom lenses and everything. Made me feel like I was watching Day Of The Jackal, or some other classic 70's thriller.

[Quintus 6,499]

Yes, the sense of the era and it's climate was one of the strongest things about it.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

One of Spielberg's best.

[Quintus 6,499]

Let's not carried away now.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

It is, though. Munich is his best movie of the last 10 years.

[Quintus 6,499]

Agreed.

[Neimoidian 15]

Yes I enjoyed it immensely. As a political thriller, it pushes all the right buttons.

Exactly.

[David Coscina 4]

Honestly, I never actually got through the whole thing. I have it somewhere on DVD so I guess I ought to finish it.

[Greg1138 3]

Yes - and the score was robbed at Oscar time...

[A24 5,156]

It is, though. Munich is his best movie of the last 10 years.

That doesn't mean much. It's one of those many movies that makes great impact on the first date but already wears thin on the second.

Alex

[Quintus 6,499]

Which has nothing to do with the fact that it is still his best film of the last ten years.

[publicist 4,650]

It is, though. Munich is his best movie of the last 10 years.

That doesn't mean much. It's one of those many movies that makes great impact on the first date but already wears thin on the second.

Alex

If Eric Bana wouldn't have been a soon-to-be-father (clearly a kneefall before the american B. O.) i even would not have quarreled about the numerous historical inaccuracies and the Michel Lonsdale stuff...but everything on top of another makes the sum of it's parts better than the movie as such.

[Henry B 51]

It's a little too conventional. Racing to stop the telephone from exploding because the girl picks up? Come on...

[untouchables 1]

No, it's evident that a guy like Spielberg can't provide unbiased film about palestinian/israeli conflict.

[Henry B 51]

Jesus Christ. Leave this thread right now.

[A24 5,156]

It's a little too conventional. Racing to stop the telephone from exploding because the girl picks up? Come on...

Wasn't she the same girl with the red coat in Schindler's List? Isn't she Spielberg's conscious?

[Quintus 6,499]

"It's a little too conventional"?

What the hell you jabbering on about now? Do we have a new 'too conventional gauge' now? If so, how do you measure it? What a load of rubbish!

I mean seriously, is there anything you do like? Because for a young man you don't seem to find enjoyment in much, which is kinda depressing, not to mention tiresome; having to it read all the time.

[publicist 4,650]

No, it's evident that a guy like Spielberg can't provide unbiased film about palestinian/israeli conflict.

The movie falls over itself just to portray everything and anything 'balanced'. The thing with the girl was ok in my book, even if it is clichéd. But the film's notion here is just that the squad isn't as unscrupulous yet as it will become later on.

[A24 5,156]

"It's a little too conventional"?

What the hell you jabbering on about now? I mean seriously, is there anything you do like? Because for a young man you don't seem to find enjoyment in much, which is kinda depressing, not to mention tiresome having to read all the time.

Yes, but wasn't she the same girl with the red coat in Schindler's List? Isn't she Spielberg's conscious?

[Quintus 6,499]

Perhaps she is yes, I've never thought about it, but you may well be be right.

[Henry B 51]

"It's a little too conventional"?

What the hell you jabbering on about now? Do we have a new 'conventional gauge' now? If so, how do you measure it? What a load of rubbish!

I mean seriously, is there anything you do like? Because for a young man you don't seem to find enjoyment in much, which is kinda depressing, not to mention tiresome having to read all the time.

I mean that the film's ambiguous messages are at odds with the very typical thriller sequences.

[Quintus 6,499]

And that is where you miss the point of a Spielberg film entirely. The genius of Spielberg is that he never looses sight of what makes his medium work as an entertainment. He understands that regardless of the subject matter or tone of the piece, there will ALWAYS be a place for traditional plot and suspense mechanics. It would be foolish to believe that certain sorts of movie should be out of bounds for the old tried and tested dynamics of traditional story telling and Spielberg knows this more than anyone.

The scene with the girl and the telephone works in this movie. It works 100% effectively.

[Williamsfan301 12]

No, it's evident that a guy like Spielberg can't provide unbiased film about palestinian/israeli conflict.

Why are you still here!? Go away already!

I thought the movie was very good. Not one I watch on a regular basis - I have to be in the mood for a very serious drama. But, a good outting none the less.

Yes, the score was robbed at Oscar time. This is the one that lost to Brokeback Mountain, no?

[Henry B 51]

And that is where you miss the point of a Spielberg film entirely. The genius of Spielberg is that he never looses sight of what makes his medium work as an entertainment. He understands that regardless of the subject matter or tone of the piece, there will ALWAYS be a place for traditional plot and suspense mechanics. It would be foolish to believe that certain sorts of movie should be out of bounds for the old tried and tested dynamics of traditional story telling and Spielberg knows this more than anyone.

The scene with the girl and the telephone works in this movie. It works 100% effectively.

I guess we just have to disagree about where traditional suspense mechanics are appropriate. For the record, I don't dislike the film... Lots of interesting stuff in the script.

[Quintus 6,499]

It's settled then.

[Morlock 12]

No, I do not like the film. Though I do appreciate the fact that many people see a lot of good in it, even if I myself do not.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

terrible film

[Jessie Lohner 0]

I'm glad most people like it! <_<

You'll probably laugh, but I got to thinking about this while watching the movie "Knocked Up." There a scene in which these bunch of (loser) guys are going nuts about Munich. Couldn't tell whether they really loved it or hated it, though. They kept saying how great it is, but maybe they were just making fun of it. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? The scene in question is toward the beginning, and takes place in a night club. Weird, I know!

[Richard P 5,303]

Great insight Joey. That part on exactly what turned you off the film was riveting.

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I have seen most of the film, but never made it to the end. I think it's the fact that it spends so long on the characters and the politics, that it never seemed to actually do anything except kill some guy occasionally. Don't take this as me lacking depth or anything - I just didn't connect with the issues in the film, it was long, and almost all the actors are much better known for other roles that are more memorable.

I might give it another try some day, but I just didn't get it first time round.

[Ollie 1,375]

Yes I liked it.

[John Crichton 4]

Honestly my memory's a bit fuzzy, but I walked out of the theater mostly satisfied. I should revisit it at some point, I know that helped with AI, which I didn't really appreciate until I'd seen it a few times.

[crocodile 9,724]

Not really. The thriller parts of it are quite good indeed and the political stuff - not so much. Somewhere in there there is a good film, but still lacking for the most part. Actually I thought it was better on the second viewing, but I never really connected with any of the character's motivation to care about what they do and why. The more I see of Spielberg serious films the more I'm convinced he is unable to say anything interesting about the world we live in. His craft, as a filmmaker is very impressive, but the content is somewhat irrelevant and flat. But that's just my opinion.

Karol

[ChuckM 1]

People seem to either love it or hate it, there's no middle ground.

I'm definitely middle ground on it. I liked it. It's a good movie. But it's not something I'm going to re-watch very often.

[A24 5,156]

Actually I thought it was better on the second viewing ...

What richness did you discover that you didn't see during the first time? An do you suspect the movie will get better with even more scrutinizing?

Alex

[Hlao-roo 390]

His craft, as a filmmaker is very impressive, but the content is somewhat irrelevant and flat.

Sounds more or less like what folks have been saying about a certain composer.

[crocodile 9,724]

No, on the first it didn't work at all. On the second - the story flowed better. Maybe my attitude changed a bit. As simple as that. The film itself largely stayed the same. The problem I have with Spielberg is that he seems to be in his "see what genre I can do" syndrome right now as if to prove he is good at what he does. We all know he can do it well enough. It's just I want him to be less interested in all the superficial aspects and more on the actual content and the scripts themselves.

Karol

[Hlao-roo 390]

I mean seriously, is there anything you do like? Because for a young man you don't seem to find enjoyment in much, which is kinda depressing, not to mention tiresome having to read all the time.

Don't deny Alex his childhood, Quint.

[A24 5,156]

I mean seriously, is there anything you do like? Because for a young man you don't seem to find enjoyment in much, which is kinda depressing, not to mention tiresome having to read all the time.

Don't deny Alex his childhood, Quint.

You do realize that Quint's post wasn't adressed to me?

[Hlao-roo 390]

I mean seriously, is there anything you do like? Because for a young man you don't seem to find enjoyment in much, which is kinda depressing, not to mention tiresome having to read all the time.

Don't deny Alex his childhood, Quint.

You do realize that Quint's post wasn't adressed to me?

Wrong name, my bad.

[Bryant Burnette 790]

I think Munich is awesome. I don't engage with it on a political level; I'm fairly apolitical, which is to say not that I have no interest or even opinions on political matters, but that I recognize that in order for me to be fully conversant on political matters, I'd have to pay a lot more attention to them than I currently pay.

Which I'm not willing to do. I'd rather enjoy life. That may or may not be irresponsible of me, but either way, so be it.

So I view Munich purely on an emotional level, and for me, it works big-time. I find Avner's conflictedness about what's he's doing -- or is it conflictedness about what he's not doing? -- to be quite moving. The scene some of you were talking about earlier involving Avner racing from the telephone booth to save the life of the little girl . . . conventional it may be, but the scene is really about Avner, who, you might remember, has a daughter he's never seen. (Or has he been to see her once by that point? Can't remember; either way, he's a non-presence in her life.) Practically everything Avner does in this film is informed by the loss of his family life. And if you want to read deeper meanings into the movie around that notion, I have a feeling the movie will support your doing so.

On the level of filmmaking technique, this movie is just astounding, definitely one of the Spielberg's best. Pay attention to the way he frames certain shots, the way he manipulates the camera to most effectively convey the points he is trying to convey. This man is as good at directing a camera as anyone who has ever lived. And that masterful quality extends into practically every technical aspect of this particular film: he costumes, the production design, the sound, the editing, the lighting, all are at the top of their craft in this movie. I don't know if Spielberg is great merely at picking talented collaborators or if he's also great at getting their best work out of them; doesn't really matter, since the end result is the same.

I'm sure there are things that can be validly criticized in Munich, but for me, it's a top-notch movie.

[Quintus 6,499]

On the level of filmmaking technique, this movie is just astounding, definitely one of the Spielberg's best.

I agree with this. From a purely technical pov, this is Spielberg firing on all cylinders and nailing them all. In fact on that level, Munich is a complete joy from start to finish.

As a movie though, it still isn't fit to sniff Jaws' sh*t! <_<

[pixie_twinkle 60]

I really enjoyed Munich. Very exciting. The tension build-up throughout was very well handled. It lost it's way a little in the last 20 minutes or so, but not enough to ruin the film. The final shot with the WTC in the background was poignant and portentious without being overly crass.

[Morlock 12]

The final shot is one of the few things that I love about the film.

[Ollie 1,375]

As a movie though, it still isn't fit to sniff Jaws' sh*t!

Very few films can.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I'm glad most people like it!

You'll probably laugh, but I got to thinking about this while watching the movie "Knocked Up." There a scene in which these bunch of (loser) guys are going nuts about Munich. Couldn't tell whether they really loved it or hated it, though. They kept saying how great it is, but maybe they were just making fun of it. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? The scene in question is toward the beginning, and takes place in a night club. Weird, I know!

"Every movie about Jews has them being exterminated, Munich flips it over. Instead of getting killed, we're capping mother f*ckers, and taking names too!"

[Quintus 6,499]

The final shot is one of the few things that I love about the film.

I always though it would've been better if they ended on a shot of the Eiffel Tower, with Superman closing in fast.