thx99 1,740 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Help me determine if I'm losing my mind or not...Back in the day (pre Blu-ray releases), I recall seeing a "making of" Phantom Menace video, possibly on the DVD release, in which Lucas and Williams are seen sitting in the control room at Abbey Road Studios. Lucas says, rather emphatically, that Williams has already scored the last reel of Episode III, referring to "Duel of the Fates".There is no such clip in the "Movie Music" DVD featurette, and I can find a similar discussion (but not the same interaction or location that I recall) in the DVD featurette titled "The Beginning" (starting at 58:17): So where in the hell is it?!?! Or am I just imagining that this interaction took place in this manner?!?Thanks for your help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 That's the only such remark that I recall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I believe that is the exact clip.I remember years ago discussion that Battle of the Heroes was composed for TPM, but saved for ROTS. I'm certain it's not true, but I remember that discussion?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Hmmm I only recall this documentary version of this discussion between JW and Lucas about the eventual significance of DotF in Episode III and perhaps something mentioned in the tie in Making Of books of TPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I can't recall ever seeing such a clip (not counting the one in video you posted). Maybe it was a printed/written interview?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Possibly, because I remember Lucas saying something like that, but I don't think it was in a video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 No, I remember hearing the same comment! I do recall I found it once on youtube and I saved the link, which was later taken down. I have no idea what it came from though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The brief clip in the video is the only instance I remember where Williams and Lucas discussed the topic. However, there was also a brief mention in the Boston Globe article written by Richard Dyer back in '99, when he was invited at the Abbey Road sessions:One day 88 professional singers from London Voices arrive to record two episodes with chorus. One is funeral music for one of the film's emotional climaxes; the other is for the closing credits, a terrifying, primitive pagan rite that makes even Stravinsky's Les Noces sound tame. Lucas loves this dark, driven music so much he shows off the recording for Spielberg when he arrives. Spielberg says to Williams, "I'm glad I didn't drop around for a cigar on the day you wrote that." Lucas says Williams doesn't know it yet, but this music will accompany a crucial scene in the third new film. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Maybe in the TPM web documentary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Mmm no.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Don't worry, I remember seeing that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I feel like this is one of those things like the Biggs scene in Star Wars that people remember being in the movie because of the comic book, storybook etc. I believe that what was been posted in this thread is the extent of what was said regarding the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 is it where Lucas says to Williams, "I love the Chorus, you didn't realise this but goes into the 3rd film very well. I think it will be important to reprise" something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciarlese 250 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Help me determine if I'm losing my mind or not...Back in the day (pre Blu-ray releases), I recall seeing a "making of" Phantom Menace video, possibly on the DVD release, in which Lucas and Williams are seen sitting in the control room at Abbey Road Studios. Lucas says, rather emphatically, that Williams has already scored the last reel of Episode III, referring to "Duel of the Fates".There is no such clip in the "Movie Music" DVD featurette, and I can find a similar discussion (but not the same interaction or location that I recall) in the DVD featurette titled "The Beginning" (starting at 58:17): So where in the hell is it?!?! Or am I just imagining that this interaction took place in this manner?!?Thanks for your help!!I am almost sure they were referring to Qui-Gon Jinn's funeral. I remember Williams saying something about Lucas telling him how he woas going to use that theme at the end of Episode III and Williams replying "what are you waiting for? Go to do that!". There were several periodical video featurette released by starwars.com at that time (that was over 16 years ago: would you believe that?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I feel like this is one of those things like the Biggs scene in Star Wars that people remember being in the movie because of the comic book, storybook etc. I believe that what was been posted in this thread is the extent of what was said regarding the matter.That scene was in the original version of the film that I saw on TV in the early 80's.As was the scene where Luke gazes up at the Blockade Runner battle using binoculars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 I found Williams speaking about the matter in what appears to be a promotional video posted to YouTube (by Steef). The section starts at 1:50 and the specific reference starts at 2:20. Unfortunately, this still is not the clip I remember seeing. I distinctly recall seeing Williams seated, either with his back to the camera or in profile in the left-hand side of the camera view, and Lucas further from the camera, also seated, facing more toward the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 That was in the Special Edition of the documentary. This is the original untouched version, in which Williams speaks first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 That's also the interview where Williams talks about oral and fucking up the score for album length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I found Williams speaking about the matter in what appears to be a promotional video posted to YouTube (by Steef). The section starts at 1:50 and the specific reference starts at 2:20. My upload! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 My upload!I gave you proper credit!!That was in the Special Edition of the documentary. This is the original untouched version, in which Williams speaks first.I'm not following you.Are you saying that the clip I'm trying to find is from the "Special Edition of the documentary"? If so, what exactly is the "Special Edition of the documentary"?Or are you saying that the Williams interview segment from Steef's YouTube upload that I reference above is from "Special Edition of the documentary"? It's definitely not in the "Movie Music" webisode, nor in the lengthier DVD documentary titled "The Beginning" (which I link to in the first post). So again, what exactly is the "Special Edition of the documentary" you mention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 thx99, it was a Greedo Shot First joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 thx99, it was a Greedo Shot First joke.Duh!! Man, I'm an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Indeed, you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 is it where Lucas says to Williams, "I love the Chorus, you didn't realise this but goes into the 3rd film very well. I think it will be important to reprise" something like that. Isn't it in the music part of the 'Lynne's Diary' series of featurettes? It's on the original TPM DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Isn't it in the music part of the 'Lynne's Diary' series of featurettes? It's on the original TPM DVD.No, it's not. The closest we get to the discussion is in "The Beginning" doc that I included above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 That's a great feature the (te OP). Fan reactions at the premiere had me smiling from ear to ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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