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An unfocused mess. Why do this when there is a superior concert arrangement out there? And he got rid of the Leia's Theme cameo.  Utterly disappointing.
 
-Erik-

I bought it at deepdiscount.  They also have a 15% off coupon and free shipping.  That brings the price down.
https://www.deepdiscount.com/star-wars-film-spectacular/4988003513665
 
I also purchased the John Williams 85th Anniversary Collection
https://www.deepdiscount.com/85th-anniversary-collection/4988003505950?rel=nofollow

No reason to. Considering there are no new themes for TLJ...

There's only the force.  There is no other "religion" in the movies. 

That was in my "review" pages ago.  There is no God in SW. 
 

Because you disagree with my opinion?  Cool.  How open-minded you all are.

Completely disagree.  I didn't necessarily see it coming nor was it needed.  And, if we're going with what is "telegraphed," almost none of it happens.  This movie is 100% audience manipulation from beginning to end.

It it would have worked better had Finn and Poe teamed up.

I was kinda hoping when the porgs were looking at Luke’s Sabre and the one was jumping up and down on the power switch, it would turn on and take out the other porg.
 
I know, I’m a cruel jerk for even thinking that.

@crocodilemade a point that I agree with, this film feels like it’s wrapping up the trilogy. 
 
My guess is maybe the next film jumps ahead much like the time gap between TPM and AOTC.
 
The movie felt too long and Phasma was given the Boba Fett testament. Until she made her appearance I’d forgotten she even existed.
 
Driver and Ridley do give solid performances. 
 
I thought it would have been better to put Finn and Poe together on an adventure but it’s looking like the latter is probably going to be the one who leads the resistance so he needed to be on the ship.
 
Holdo’s character was ok but when she stays behind I kept screaming in my mind to turn the ship around and ram Snoke’s destroyer. And Snoke, while he looked impressive was another waste. 
 
BB8 was too over the top in this film. 
 
The porgs werent that bad and I admit to laughing out loud when Chewie was trying to eat one and the Porg watching him had his lip quivering.
 
 
 

Reading this thread has saved me $25. The movie sounds awful. I'll return to looking forward to Disney's ID4 reboot.

Snoke was a useless placeholder. We never cared about him at all. By Jedi, the Emperor dying mattered. Snoke was as useless here as Steppenwolf in Justice League. No backstory. No reason to care, fear him, or take him seriously.
 
The Leia death fake-out was awful. I truly wish her character had received a graceful exit in this film.
 
I loved pretty much everything on the island with Luke and Rey. The explanation of the force was terrific.
 
I didn't like Rey's parents being nobodies. We get it. Greatness can come from anywhere. Don't care one bit. Wanted her lineage to matter. 
 
The music fit the film perfectly and I thought was mixed very well and very appropriately.
 
Rose seemed very forced. She never earned me caring about her as much as they tried to make it happen.
 
Laura Dern's character was also pointless and seemed only there to have some "hero" die by sacrificing herself.
 
Overall, I enjoyed it and will go see it again to better form my opinion. On first viewing though, The Force Awakens is undoubtedly a better film in my opinion.

I thought TFA was a much better film. The viewing party that was with me concurs.

TGP's ignore list is longer than the JWFAN members list...

I never said "George Lucas raped my childhood."  With this movie, i can firmly say that "Rian Johnson raped my childhood."

The very end of the film is far, far worse than TFA's, though (bloody awful, even), and doesn't make you feel excited about Episode IX.

I never said "George Lucas raped my childhood."  With this movie, i can firmly say that "Rian Johnson raped my childhood."

Went to the midnight premiere yesterday, here's my 2 cents on the movie:
 
It was probably the worst Star Wars movie. Here's why:

1. The important stuff is underdeveloped
The important stuff is the Luke/Kylo/Rey/Snoke stuff, no matter how much the survival of the resistance is at stake in this movie. The movie should have focused on that, but it chose to switch between three plot lines.
It seems the writers weren't confident that they could pull off a movie centered around what the force is and jedi training, and they decided to interrupt this whenever they could fit in an action sequence, no matter how pointless it is (Why the fuck is no one telling Poe about the real escape plan once he's starting the mutiny?! Was the horse stuff on Canto necessary AT ALL?!).
 
As a consequence, we see little of Rey and Luke training, we don't get to know why Luke was feeling the dark side in Kylo, we get no new insights into the force other than that it enables galactic video calling, we don't see Snoke being an actual badass and we really don't know much abotu Kylo's inner conflict. Basically, character motivations and capabilities are severely underdeveloped. Whatever then happens between them is neither deeply emotional nor particularly satisfying.
 
 
2. The bullshit is everywhere
By bullshit i mean stuff that doesn't fit the Star Wars universe or was introduced to 
sell toys (the porgs had funny moments, but were wayyyy overused) attract viewers from different markets around the world (asian character, BB-8 totally nuts) promote gender equality by stuffing female characters in EVERYWHERE (it was a bit much imo. Imagine how much better canto been would've been as a Poe&Finn buddy adventure instead of that cringey lovestory) open up opportunities for countless sequels (*cough* ending) Sure, Disney wants to milk the living shit out of Star Wars, but they're doing this at the expense of the movies. This will bite them in the ass in the long term.
 
Also, some things that were introduced could be problematic in the long run. Was Laura Dern the first one to come up with the hyperspace kamikaze attack? Who will still build big ships after that move? And those force projections will be here to stay, too, and create many situations where people will rightfully ask "why did she not do the force projection thing to solve X and Y?"
 
 
3. A lot of jokes were off
For christ's sake, who came up with the "Leia and her hair" line when meeting with Luke?! That's stuff that maybe Han Solo could've pulled off, but it was never something for Leia to say, especially not when seeing Luke for the first time in an eternity. It was also oddly self-referential to the weird hair styles of the old trilogy, and these jokes are hard to get right. The movie in general felt like it didn't take itself seriously enough at times, with the whole marvel "it's all fun and games even if the world blows up" attitude.
 
 
4. It's way too long
First Star Wars movie in which i frequently looked at my watch. Let's not get me started on Canto Bin.
 
The spaceship chase was boring as hell, and after what felt like hours they went into a cave with basically no way out. Smart move btw. Sure, they tried hard to make us care about the survival of the resistance, but did anyone really?
 
 
5. Should've killed Leia
Carrie Fisher passing away was probably a big hit for the future plans, but they actually had an easy way out in this movie: Have Leia die on the bridge of that ship at the beginning, after Kylo's hesitation. WHAT BETTER WAY TO SPARK KYLO's CONFLICT COULD THERE BE? He didn't want to kill her, but someone else did. In the presence of Snoke, Kylo would've had to hide his emotions even after seeing his mother being killed in front of his eyes and feeling it through the force. A perfect setup for his conflict, and one more reason for him to later say "Let the past die". But hey, let's let her fly through space, that's cool.
 
 
 
All in all I'm afraid that Star Wars has completely turned into another mindless franchise pushing out feel-good movies with little emotional depth and lots of self-referential humor. Not excited in the slightest for Episode 9
 

Cinema is royally fucked!

It definitely did. Shame it didn't do that in an entirely convincing way, though.

That's exactly what it seems like to me.
 
Man, you're edgy. Go drink a cup of coffee or something.

You call lightsaber fights, air battles and the like "boring?"  Then you're going to hate this movie...where very, very little happens.  And even what DOES happen, doesn't.

No. I won't say I didn't cry but it wasn't because of anything that happened in the movie.  It was purely because I knew this was the last time I would see her on film as that character ever again.

Rose's theme is Jurassic Park.  That's all I kept thinking.