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Here's a quick and dirty combination of FYC + OST, favoring FYC whenever possible (for most music).  This ignores the tiny bits and bobs some FYC-exclusive or OST-exclusive little bits, and just focuses on placing the large chunks of unreleased music for now
 
CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF OST + FYC:
 
THE SCORE
OST 01A [0:00-1:26] (1:26) Main Title {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
FYC 02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
OST 02 The Scavenger (3:39) {FYC tracks 3 and 4 contain less music, but clean ending / opening}
OST 04B [1:10-end] (0:21) BB-8 Meets Rey {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
FYC 06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
FYC 07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09)
OST 08 That Girl with the Staff (1:58) {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
OST 09 The Rathtars! (4:05) {FYC track 8 is only one section of this}
FYC 09 Snoke (2:07)
OST 10B [0:52-end] (1:16) "Arrival At Takodana" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
OST 11A [0:00-1:21] (1:21) "Maz Examines Finn" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
OST 11B [1:21-end] (1:46) "Maz and Rey" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 12 The Starkiller (1:52) or OST 12 The Starkiller (1:51)
FYC 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15) or OST 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:01)
FYC 14 The Resistance (1:35)
OST 14 The Abduction (2:25) {FYC track 15 is only one section of this}
OST 15 Han and Leia (4:41) {FYC track 16 is only one section of this}
FYC 17 The Bombing Run (2:07)   
FYC 18 On The Inside (2:54)    
FYC 19 Torn Apart (4:24) or OST 19 Torn Apart (4:19)
OST 20A [0:00-0:45] (0:45) "Rey Gets The Lightsaber" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
FYC 21 The Journey Home (2:18)
FYC 22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
FYC 23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)
    
 
CONCERT ARRANGEMENTS
OST 06 Rey's Theme (3:11)
OST 16 March of the Resistance (2:35)
OST 17 Snoke (2:03)
OST 21 Scherzo for X-Wings (2:32)
 
 
NOTE: This post may now be out of date!  Please see the first post in this thread for the most up-to-date information (Especially the Spreadsheet, which is updated more frequently than the board post)

OK I finally had time to do a quick breakdown the FYC
 
For my first pass I only focused on finding the BIG unreleased chunks; I haven't gotten down to the nitty gritty of comparing the parts that are similar to their OST counterparts.  So though I use the equal sign below, don't take it to mean that those sections are completely identical.... just roughly
 
 
So, here's my quick rough and dirty comparison

FYC 01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
[all] (5:27) = OST 01 [1:26-5:03] (3:37) Main Title and The Attack on the Jakku Village
 
FYC 02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
[all] (1:53) =  OST 01 [5:03-end] (1:22) Main Title and The Attack on the Jakku Village
 
FYC 03 The Scavenger (1:52)
[all] (1:52) = OST 02 [0:36-2:21] The Scavenger
 
FYC 04 Lunchtime (1:12)
[all] (1:12) = OST02 [2:21-end] The Scavenger
 
FYC 05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
[0:00-1:00] (1:00) = Unreleased
[1:00-end] (3:09) = OST 05 [0:30-end] (2:24) I Can Fly Anything
 
FYC 06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
[all] (1:35) = Unreleased
 
FYC 07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09)
[0:00-3:09] (3:09) = OST 05 Follow Me (2:54)
[3:09-end] (4:00)  = OST 07 The Falcon (3:32)
 
FYC 08 The Rathtars (1:19)
[all] (1:19) = OST 09 [1:22-2:13] The Rathtars! 
 
FYC 09 Snoke (2:07)
[all] (2:07) = Unreleased (OST track 17 could be concert arrangement?)
 
FYC 10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
[all] (1:32) = Unreleased
 
FYC 11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
[all] (1:06) = OST 10 [0:00-0:52] (0:52) Finn's confession
 
FYC 12 The Starkiller (1:52)
[all] (1:52) = OST 12 The Starkiller (1:51)
 
FYC 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15)
[all] (2:15) = OST 13 Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle (2:01)
 
FYC 14 The Resistance (1:35)
[all] (1:35) = Unreleased
 
FYC 15 The Abduction (1:35)
[all] (1:35) = OST 14 [0:56-end] (1:29) The Abduction
 
FYC 16 Finn and Poe, United (2:01)
[all] (2:01) = OST 15 [1:13-2:52] (1:39) Han and Leia
 
FYC 17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
[all] (2:07) = Unreleased
 
FYC 18 On the Inside (2:54)
[0:00-0:48] (0:48) = Unreleased
[0:48-end] (2:06) = OST 18 [0:03-end] (2:02) On The Inside
 
FYC 19 Torn Apart (4:24)
[all] (4:24) = OST 19 Torn Apart (4:19)
 
FYC 20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
[0:00-1:20] (1:20) = Unreleased
[1:20-end] (2:38) = OST 20 [0:45-end] (2:20) The Ways Of The Force
 
FYC 21 The Journey Home (2:18)
[all] (2:18) = OST 22 [0:00-2:05] (2:05) Farewell and The Trip
 
FYC 22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
[0:00-1:10] = OST 04 [0:00-1:10] (1:10) Rey Meets BB-8
[1:10-end] (2:39) = OST 22 [2:13-end] (2:42) Farewell and The Trip
 
FYC 23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)
[0:00-6:53] (6:54) = OST 23 [0:00-6:59] (6:59) The Jedi Steps and Finale
[6:53-8:05] (1:12) = OST 16 [tbd-tbd] (tbd) March of the Resistance
[8:05-end] (1:53) = OST 23 [6:59-end] (1:53) The Jedi Steps and Finale

 
 
On on a first, quick pass, that's about 16 minutes of unreleased music!!!
 
Add that to the OST and we've already had 93 minutes of music released!
 
 
 
 
NOTE: This post may now be out of date!  Please see the first post in this thread for the most up-to-date information (Especially the Spreadsheet, which is updated more frequently than the board post)

I hope merging the OST and FYC isn;t as complicated as War Horse or Tintin

now we need an editing guide...

Unreleased music has leaked? Already?
 
Lame!
 
i haven't even gotten used to the OST yet. 

Holy moly! Christmas came early!

I am excited to see how we can re-order the FYC files with the OST to create a chronological presentation of the music.

it's not the full score but there's about 14 minutes of unreleased music. Were discussing it in the FYC thread

this space reserved for future expansion.

The Force Awakens by John Williams
Complete Score Breakdown & Other Info by Jason LeBlanc
 
 
 
 
I have no clue what any of Williams' original cue names are, so I made up my own names for all of them, usually just using a description of the scene or some dialogue from it rather than trying to imitate Williams' naming style.

I'm sure I missed some things here and there so I welcome any at all questions and updates and corrections.

Without further ado here we go!
 
May 2020 update: We now know all of Williams' original cue titles.  I will continue to edit this post with corrected info as I have time, and will put old, outdated info in spoiler-blocks until I have time to replace it with updated info.
 
 
 
 
CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF OST:
 
01 Main Title And The Attack On The Jakku Village (6:25) 02 The Scavenger (3:39) 03 I Can Fly Anything (3:11) 08B "That Lady With The Stick" (0:35-1:05) 05 Follow Me (2:54) 07 The Falcon (3:32) 08A "What's Your Name?" (0:00-0:35) 08C "Kylo and His Sword" (1:11-end) 09 The Rathtars (4:05) 10B "Green Planet" (0:52-1:17) 10C "You Got A Name?" (1:17-end) 11A "Maz on the Table" (0:00-1:21) 10A "I Ran Into You" (0:00-0:52) 04B "I've Found The Droid" (1:10-end) 11B "I Have To Go Back" (1:21-end) 12 The Starkiller (1:51) 13 Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle (2:01) 14 The Abduction (2:25) 15 Han And Leia (4:41) 17 Snoke (2:03) 18 On The Inside (2:05) 19 Torn Apart (4:19) 20 The Ways Of The Force (3:14) 22A "Light In The Snow and Flying Home" (0:00-2:05) 04A "Finding The Map" (0:00-1:10) 22B "The Complete Map (2:05-end) 23 The Jedi Steps And Finale (8:51)
Concert Arrangements 06 Rey's Theme (3:11) 16 March Of The Resistance (2:35) 21 Scherzo For X-Wings (2:32)  
 
DETAILED OST BREAKDOWN:
 
 
1 Main Title And The Attack On The Jakku Village (6:25)
0:00-1:26 = 1M1 Main Title 1:26-1:44 = 1M1Av3 Starry Night 1:44-2:16 = 1M2A Fix 2:16-2:29 = 1M1Av3 Starry Night {continued} 2:29-2:59 = 1M2B 2:59-3:07 = 1M1Av3 Starry Night {continued} 3:07-3:27 = 1M3C I've Seen Too Much 3:27-4:07 = 1M3D The Attack on the Village 4:07-4:52 = 1M3BR The Attack on the Village 4:52-6:03 = 1M4R The Arrival of Kylo Ren 6:03-end = 1M4B Landing 2 The Scavenger (3:39)
0:00-0:54 = 1M5 Alt 2R The Scavenger 0:54-1:02 = 1M5 Alt 2 The Scavenger 1:02-2:21 = 1M5 Alt 2R The Scavenger {continued} 2:21-2:40 = 1M6 Alt R One Quarter Portion 2:40-end = 1M7 Lunchtime With Rey (Flute Version) 3 I Can Fly Anything (3:11)
0.00-0.57 = 2M14R I Can Fly Anything 0.57-end = 2M15R The First Escape 4 Rey Meets BB-8 (1:31)
0:00-1:10 = 8M72 Finding The Map 1:10-end = 4M37 I've Found The Droid 5 Follow Me (2:54)
0.00-1:07 = 2M18B Who's Luke Skywalker? 1:07-2:24 = 2M18CR Follow Me 2:24-2:36 = 2M18C Insert II 2:36-end = 2M18CR Follow Me {Continued} 6 Rey's Theme (3:11)
8M79 Rey's Theme 7 The Falcon (3:32)
3M20R The Falcon Still Flies! 8 That Girl With The Staff (1:58)
0:00-0:35 = 3M21R What's Your Name? 0:35-1:05 = 2M18A That Lady with the Stick 1:05-end = 3M22R Kylo And His Sword 9 The Rathtars (4:05)
0:00-1:01 = 3M24R Hiding Under the Grate
1:01-1:22 = 3M27 Rathtars Appear 1:22-2:47 = 3M28 The Rathtar Attack
2:47-end = 3M28AR Old Falcon To The Rescue 10 Finn's Confession (2:08)
0:00-0:52 = 4M36R I Ran Into You 0:52-1:17 = 4M32R Green Planet 1:17-end = 4M33R You Got A Name? 11 Maz's Counsel (3:07)
0:00-1:21 = 4M35R Maz on the Table 1:21-end = 4M39R I Have To Get Back  12 The Starkiller (1:51)
8M81 Sunbeam Strings 13 Kylo Ren Arrives At The Battle (2:01)
0:00-0:15 = 5M43R (Fix) Find Rey! 0:15-0:43 = 5M43A (Fix) Maz’s Treasure Chest 0:43-end = 5M44 Kylo Arrives at Battle 14 The Abduction (2:25)
0:00-0:56 = 5M46R Kylo Stalks Rey 0:56-1:18 = 5M48 We’ve Got What We Need 1:20-end = 5M49R The Abduction of Rey 15 Han And Leia (4:41)
0:00-1:12 = 6M50R Han & Leia Reunion 1:12-2:52 = 6M51R Finn and Poe, United 2:51-3:23 = 6M52 R2 In Hibernation 3:23-end = 6M53R Parental Discussion 16 March Of The Resistance (2:35)
8M77 The Resistance Theme 17 Snoke (2:03)
0:00-1:02 = 8M78 Snoke 1:02-end = 6M54AR Bring Her To Me 18 On The Inside (2:05)
0:00-0:45 = 7M62A On The Inside 0:45-0:54 = 7M62A Insert 0:54-end = 7M62A On The Inside {Continued} 19 Torn Apart (4:19)
0:00-2:26 = 7M65B Father and Son 2:26-2:32 = 7M65C Leia Fix 2.32-3.40 = 7M65 Father And Son 3.40-end = 7M66 The Control Room And Ren In The Forest 20 The Ways Of The Force (3:14)
0:00-0:12 = 7M67R It Is You
0:12-0:47 = 7M67BF Rey Catches Sword
0:47-end = 7M67A Rey vs. Ren
21 Scherzo For X-Wings (2:32)
8M80 Scherzo For X-Wings 22 Farewell And The Trip (4:55)
0:00-1:16 = 7M68A Light In The Snow and Flying Home 1:16-2:05 = 7M68 Flying Home 2:05-end = 8M73 The Complete Map 23 The Jedi Steps And Finale (8:51)
0:00-2:12 = 8M74 Climbing the Mountain 2:12-end = 8M75 Finale (11/11/15)  
 
QUICK FYC BREAKDOWN:
 
 
 
Simple FYC/OST Combo Playlist, no Editing Required
 
 
Longer Chronological Edit of OST + FYC, In-Track Editing Required:
 

THE RAW NUMBERS:
 
 
All comments welcome!

Yes, I think we got an effective and enjoyable album presentation.
Thanks, Jason, for this superb work. It's interesting to have the estimates of music yet to be released. I'll pay more attention to the film when I see it for the second time on tuesday, hoping to contribute on this thread, but the list is already highly detailed.

uh, it seems there's more unreleased music when you see it on a cue list like that
But now I saw it twice and still haven't noted major missing highlights

It works almost perfectly because it's the more chronological of his recent albums. Fortunately he didn't do his typical "listening experience" thing this time.

if we are to nitpick, it's not quite fully chronological.
But it is, for the most part, in chronological order, yes.

Aside from the first track where he combines the first two cues into one, with the second action cue on Jakku being almost immediately grafted onto the end of the opening in a bit of an awkward way, the rest of the tracks seem cue-isolated.
Great move!

I think there is something to be said for the enduring popularity of the SW scores, and how they were always different from your average film score. It was always neat how much Joe 6-Pack loved a John Williams adventure score as much as your hardcore score listener, and how things would stand out musically to them after only one viewing. I don't think it means anything for Williams' craftsmanship in TFA, but it still makes me kinda sad that a lot of people don't seem to be getting the magic this time.

Yay!

Mike Mattesino is showing him the way forward!

I'm realizing also that this is one of the very few times where JW went fully chronological and also avoided conjoining two or more cues from different scenes into a single track, but letting the cues being presented as heard in the film (save for a few trims here and there, maybe). Isn't it?

Jaws was a massive seller because of the film. The Eiger Sanction was probably also a successful release, so the LP would be likely to sell well too.
As someone pointed already, we are looking at this as fans, and while today there is a huge fan base for film scores, back then I don't believe that was the case. There were no specialty labels who will risk releasing stuff only a handful of people will care about.
The big, generic labels will release what brings the big $, even providing longer releases, covering the full extent of the CD, and since the late 70's Williams name was big enough to those big labels so that they would release his scores. And even then, the 2-LP set of Jedi never happened... A smaller, failed film, like Heartbeeps missed a LP release, and later on Spacecamp was also a flop and had what always seemed to me as a limited run, score wise. And by the later 80's, some of Williams smaller scores (for less visible film) weren't even released by any large lable, but rather by Varese Sarabande.
So, while I have no real inside knowledge to support whatever theory, I firmly believe this was just a business decision, one that Williams probably understood as a natural one. And by the way, Midway had the two main marches released on a single, back then.

Both of Williams/ 1975 scores were for Universal Pictures - The Eiger Sanction for Clint Eastwood and Jaws for Steven Spielberg. Both films and both scores were successful, particularly Jaws - the film basically created the summer blockbuster, and put both Spielberg and Williams on the map and in demand for the next 40 years and counting, while the LP was a huge success, selling millions of copies and winning Williams and Universal a Grammy for "Album of Best Original Score Written for a Motion Picture or a Television Special"
 
So you would think that the next several scores Williams did would all get LP releases, right? But they didn't!
 
In 1976, he scored two more pictures for Universal - Family Plot (for Alfred Hitchcock) and Midway (a big WW2 movie). Why wouldn't Universal have wanted to release LPs for these scores, especially since Jaws just won them a grammy?
 
(His third 1976 score was The Missouri Breaks for United Artists, and they happily gave that film's score a nice LP release at the time of the film's release.)
 
Luckily by 1977 all would be right in the world - Sure, Black Sunday didn't get an LP, but both Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind did - and were as big or bigger successes than Jaws, and every single film Williams has scored since has had an OST release at the time of the film's release since (with the sole exception of HeartBeeps in 1982).
 
But what was Universal thinking by not giving Family Plot and Midway LP releases in 1976 after the smashing success of Jaws?
 
Does anybody here who is old enough to have already been into John Williams at the time remember what it was like to go out and see Family Plot and Midway and then not be able to buy their scores?

ordered!

Ordered! Yep, a big release like this gets me off my butt to log in.

WOW! John is open and wanting to compose the new Star Wars films?! What great news! A few things:

- Star Wars would be dead to me without Williams. Sure, I'd watch them eventually... but... they'd be dead. Williams' music is the lifeblood of the series. The heart and soul. Without Williams, then what we know to be Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, and the prequels would not have existed. Star Wars would have come and gone, forgotten outside of a few small pockets of avid sci-fi cult classic followers (aka virginal nerds in their forties playing dress-up). Without Williams' music, the first two prequels would have been almost completely horrid trash outside of a good lightsaber fight in I and seeing Padme in a tight suit in II, and the relentless latter half of Revenge of the Sith would have been far less impactful and moving. I am one who enjoyed the prequel scores as much as the original Trilogy scores. All six are masterpieces to me. To consider another composer with Williams alive and willing to do them would be blasphemous. I never was a big Harry Potter fan, but I stopped watching the Potter movies after Williams stopped composing for them. I may get around to them some day, but I lost a great deal of interest. Sure, some other composer could come in and do an adequate job - but Star wars would eventually become as meaningless as any other multi-film franchise that has multiple writers, directors, composers and stars. Just another movie series.
- Uni?! Is that you? I haven't seen that name in ages! How great to see!
- Wait... wha?! Since when did rude-@$$, ignorant-@$$ anti-Williams posters take over this board? They can't be trolls, because they aren't very funny or clever. Or is it just being an ignorant dick attempting to be "postmodern" funny? Hmm. Oh well... my interest has come and gone with that.

WOW! John is open and wanting to compose the new Star Wars films?! What great news! A few things:

- Star Wars would be dead to me without Williams. Sure, I'd watch them eventually... but... they'd be dead. Williams' music is the lifeblood of the series. The heart and soul. Without Williams, then what we know to be Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, and the prequels would not have existed. Star Wars would have come and gone, forgotten outside of a few small pockets of avid sci-fi cult classic followers (aka virginal nerds in their forties playing dress-up). Without Williams' music, the first two prequels would have been almost completely horrid trash outside of a good lightsaber fight in I and seeing Padme in a tight suit in II, and the relentless latter half of Revenge of the Sith would have been far less impactful and moving. I am one who enjoyed the prequel scores as much as the original Trilogy scores. All six are masterpieces to me. To consider another composer with Williams alive and willing to do them would be blasphemous. I never was a big Harry Potter fan, but I stopped watching the Potter movies after Williams stopped composing for them. I may get around to them some day, but I lost a great deal of interest. Sure, some other composer could come in and do an adequate job - but Star wars would eventually become as meaningless as any other multi-film franchise that has multiple writers, directors, composers and stars. Just another movie series.
- Uni?! Is that you? I haven't seen that name in ages! How great to see!
- Wait... wha?! Since when did rude-@$$, ignorant-@$$ anti-Williams posters take over this board? They can't be trolls, because they aren't very funny or clever. Or is it just being an ignorant dick attempting to be "postmodern" funny? Hmm. Oh well... my interest has come and gone with that.