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  1. Well...this stinks. http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=56314 ADMIN NOTE: Click here to jump to the point in the thread where the film was confirmed. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19778-official-indiana-jones-5-thread-spielberg-and-ford-confirmed-opening-july-19-2019/&do=findComment&comment=1232124
  2. With the film a week away, now's the time to start a thread to discuss the WHOLE score (from what we can hear in the film), so people can stick to the thread for the OST album until they've seen the film, if they want to. Once the film open wide I will put SPOILERS ALLOWED in the thread title, but since we're still a week out, if anybody has seen it early and wants to put certain things in spoiler blocks so that people can read the rest of your thoughts now, feel free. That being said, people who are trying to remain as spoiler free as possible should be very careful in this thread, even now!
  3. Such a great film, with such a great score. Okay, the film may have untypical pacing, but that's part of its charm and uniqueness. When it fires, it fires on all cylinders. From the fantastic opening escape to the mine car chase and resolution on the bridge, it's pure fun. I was thinking about perhaps the most implausible sequence - the falling raft - after reading some negative takes on it. And I have to say it's never bothered me. It's an exhilarating escape and I have no problem accepting the implausability of it, unlike the nuked fridge of Crystal Skull.
  4. All the new success Ke Huy Quan has gotten lately warms my heart
  5. SCORE ONLY VERSION!!! https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/101023-0700
  6. George Lucas finally releases his narrow art film, a six hour tome about belly button lint, and to everyone's surprise it's a gigantic success. He's now in a position to buy back Lucasfilm, including the Star Wars and Indy rights, and hires you to assess whether it's a good idea. What's your verdict?
  7. Mike Matessino just confirmed on @TownerFan's podcast that the Original Soundtrack album for Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is coming from Disney Records, and also that as of the podcast recording (Sunday April 23rd), the album was "just finished". https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2023/04/28/sabrina-exclusive-first-listen/ About the movie, he says "I think there's still some dubbing to do, but the album is done". The Indy 5 talk begins around 54 minutes into the episode, but check out the whole thing for a terrific preview of La-La Land's Sabrina!
  8. With the film premiering at Cannes today, spoilers will likely be all over the internet. This is a space for those who want to discuss spoilers can do so freely. Feel free to share spoiler-free Cannes reactions in the existing thread.
  9. Kind of like we did with Rise of Skywalker, let's have some threads of pure positivity and appreciation for the specific cues, tracks, and themes from Dial of Destiny. Why not begin with a track I think we all agree is beautiful and quite affecting: "To Morocco." Here are two of my observations. First, the statement of the Raiders A theme at 0:35 is an all timer, don't you think? Sure, the first phrase ("Give 'em hell, Indiana Jones!") is lifted more or less without alteration from Crystal Skull 2m13r. But after the pause, you get the rest of the phrase in a totally new way, first this tender clarinet solo, and then a broad brass chorale of an ending. As far as I know, it's the only time the theme has been presented in this way. Or that the 1-2-3 melodic line is harmonized with a IV6-V6-I progression. Just a gorgeous way of fitting in a lot of complex emotions--melancholy, vulnerability, strength--in an incredibly short span. The second detail: hearing the piano figure for the Antikythera (1:06) in relatively close proximity to the incipit for Helena's theme on the celesta (2:05) brings out a certain intervallic sympathy between the two, doesn't it. The first is D6-D5-C#5-D6-D5-C#5, the latter F5-F6-Gb6-A6-Bb5-C6-F6. The first, an octave drop and semitone step down, the latter an octave leap and semitone step up. Maybe nothing, but undeniably pretty!
  10. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/awards/story/2023-11-14/composer-john-williams-indiana-jones-dial-destiny
  11. https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1669159053078204417?s=20 https://twitter.com/THR/status/1669159133764005888?s=20 https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1669160064123568128?s=20 https://twitter.com/jrnepales/status/1669160465673654273?s=20 https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1669160993354813440?s=20
  12. Not sure if this warrants its own thread or not, but I've done a first pass at transcriptions of the new themes from DoD. I don't know if we've come up with consensus labels for all of these, besides the obvious for Helena and Voller. Also have little confidence that the Archimedes theme is transcribed rhythmically 100% accurately, or the tertiary Nazi theme harmonically. Helena (transcribed from arrangement that premiered last year): Antiquity/Antithykera Mechanism (transcribed from "Prologue") Antithykera Mechanism (transcribed from "Archimedes Tomb") Antikythera Piano Figure (transcribed from "Battle of Syracuse") Archimedes (Transcribed from "Prologue") Nazis 0 "Voller" (transcribed from "Airport") Nazis 1 "Spirit" (transcribed from "Prologue") Nazis 2 "Supremacy" - exotic and furtive (transcribed from "Prologue") Nazis 3 "Might" -- chorale(transcribed from "Prologue") Nazis 4 "Determination" -- Transcribed from "The Airport" Syracuse -- Transcribed from "The Battle of Syracuse"
  13. Hey guys, My name is Rafie and I am from Clovis, California and I just want to say that I really admire John Williams' amazing scores from Star Wars, Jaws, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, etc. However, I would love to know what your guys' favorite JW score is. Let me know and feel free to reply in the comments. Thanks, Rafie
  14. https://discussingfilm.net/2023/05/20/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-review-harrison-fords-swan-song/ Plus fresh reactions after the LA premiere. Lots of praise for the score, but reaction to the film itself remains mixed. Spoiler-free review which highlights PWD, Mikkelsen and John Williams' score as highlights.
  15. I was thinking about how a map cue variation of Helena's theme might sound in the upcoming movie, and I had a cool idea. In this clip, I play my idea on the piano. I tried to compose in the style of John Williams. Perhaps you guys will enjoy this. Also, if you like this, you may also like Voller's theme, which I am still working on! It will be fully orchestrated on Musescore, and reflect what we've heard from the leaked clip. From Morocco to Sicily (1).mp4
  16. How are you planning to first experience the score to Dial of Destiny? Will you listen to the album first or will you wait to first experience the score in the movie at the cinema / home media? The movie opens on Wednesday 28th here in Ireland. I could see it that morning in which case there wouldn't be a big gap for me between the OST release and being able to see the movie. But I think I'm going to have the OST on heavy rotation for a few days and then see the movie during the weekend. I like being very familiar with a new JW OST before seeing the movie in the cinema.
  17. Which new theme or musical idea are you most anxious to hear in the upcoming Dial of Destiny score from Williams? We already have a solid idea of what Helena's theme will sound like, but as usual you can expect what we've heard so far to just be the tip of the iceberg in terms of the variations and permutations Williams will no doubt put it through in the film proper. There is the new villain, Voller, who may or may not get a theme or may be structured into general Nazi thematic material which, likewise, may be old or new. The titular dial of destiny will no doubt get a theme. And of course, there are numerous other aspects to the score to get excited about. Which part has you most excited?
  18. With another John Williams Indy score growing fast upon us comes the realization that we have another John Williams end credits piece to look forward to. Here, Williams is given a largely blank canvas to weave together the themes and musical ideas, both old and new, he has put into the film into a singular musical tapestry. With the prospect of a new Indy end credits comes multiple points of discussion. --- (1) The first topic of discussion that comes to mind is how will Williams treat the Raiders March in this final end credits sequence? His approach has been a bit off and on, with Temple of Doom and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull both featuring new creative instances of the theme: In contrast, Raiders and Last Crusade go for a largely by the numbers approach: Which ultimately brings us to the first poll question: will Williams choose to conclude the series with some sort of new Raiders March variation snuck in there, perhaps a merging of Helena's theme with Indy's à la Force Awakens, or will it be sufficient in Williams mind to end it with a grand orchestration of the traditional playing of the theme we know and love? (2) Second point of discussion. As @crumbs was astute to point out here, it seems possible that Williams will be using the newer concert recording mix of the Raiders March that makes the drum rhythm more prominent/audible. Will this be what is featured in the end credits, will Williams opt to use the older styling, or will he use both for the end credits? (3) Lastly, and as a bit of a bonus question inviting more generalized discussion surrounding the end credits of Indy 5, will Williams choose to do something special to send off the series in the end credits? In contrast to Rise of Skywalker, where Williams was rushed and without a dial of destiny to give him more time, it would seem Williams was given a more structured and less rushed working schedule to write the score for the final Indy outing. Perhaps a stroll through the museum of themes Williams has accumulated for this series over the years? Perhaps an end credits styling straight out of the Hollywood Golden Age to conform with how Williams has been going around presenting Helena's theme? Who knows!
  19. Indiana Jones Disney+ Series in Discussion (Variety) Please, no. No thank you.
  20. https://www.cinemablend.com/interviews/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destinys-director-explains-the-complex-process-of-getting-john-williams-to-score-the-film
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