Damien F

Zimmer has the talent to write a good score but his attitude towards blockbuster scoring over the 10/15 years has been terrible. He even isn't in my top 20 score composers of the 21st century. I am deeply passionate about Bond music. I was introduced to film music by watching those movies. I knew of John Barry before I knew of John Williams. So this is what it felt like to read today's news:

Unlike TFA and even TLJ, I thought TROS felt very tired and jaded. While watching it, I never got the sense that it was an important event movie concluding both the Skywalker saga and Rey's journey. I disliked some of TLJ but at least it felt like a major tent pole movie. I didn't feel that way about TROS. Actually, TROS felt like the unnecessary fourth installment of a series which had previously ended with a trilogy. This is probably because very little of the plot set up from TLJ survived into TROS so JJ is stuck with doing a lot of setup again. It is one of the few trilogies where a newbie could watch only the third movie and not be lost. I don't really blame JJ for this or even Rian Johnson. Disney should have had a plan for the trilogy or at the very least not allowed the director of the second movie to abandon a lot of the setup from the first movie, and the director of the third movie to then abandon the setup of the second movie. It is such a mess! You would think they would have learned from Feige's mostly successful handling of the MCU.

I saw the movie for the second time and now with the benefit of a second viewing I really got the impression that the movie was hacked to pieces in the editing process.

The lead role in 'Oma Tres: A Star Wars Story'

Really! I went looking for it after I saw the movie but couldn't find it. I'll have to give it another listen. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. Definitely Parents and Coming Together. They are so important for Kylo and his theme. They really should have been on the OST.

A few random thoughts... There is a long quite sustained version of the Emperor's theme near the beginning when the good guys are discussing the Emperor's return. Is that the fantastic version of the theme you mentioned @Jay During Rey's training, I think the cut to the imperial match is almost certainly a result of a late film edit. I'd love to hear the original cue as recorded. There is a nice little propulsive rhythm at the beginning of the film as Kylo is travelling to the Emperor's planet. I think it starts on strings and is then picked up on horns for a stronger effect. I noticed it immediately in the theatre. I wish that was also included in the FYC or OST Regarding the FYC, it was my understanding the composer doesn't actually choose what is on it but rather someone at the studio. Is that correct? Like Jay, I think this score is my most wanted expansion/leak now. We pretty must have all of TFA and TLJ as heard in the film although I still really want the cue from the deleted scene in TLJ when Rey is running across the island.

I agree and yet it feels like a lot of that usage and development isn't on the OST. Thankfully some of it is on the FYC. I'm now glad we got the FYC so early because some of my most memorable cues from the film are on the FYC but not the OST. They both needed a lot more of Rey's theme though.

It is an incredible cue. What is it with Williams omitting Rey's training cues from the OSTs.

I'm literally just out of the movie. No spoilers here obviously. I tried to keep focus on the music especially unreleased cues. My unreleased holy grails from the score are: - An adventurous almost swashbuckling version of Rey's theme near the beginning - An action version of Rey's theme followed by an action version of Kylo's theme near the end. - A fantastic new optimistic action arrangement of Luke's theme. This sounded AMAZING. - A few quiter moments with Rey's theme. Individually these are fairly short moments but definite unreleased highlights. We aren't dealing with prequel quantities of missing music. The film isn't wall to wall scored. But the above cues would have been amazing on the OST and makes me wish even more for an isolated score on the blu ray. I think the OST didn't represent Rey's theme very well compared to the score in the film.

John Williams will win a sixth Oscar alright but it'll be for Best Actor.

Help me, isolated score, you're my only hope.

Parents and Coming Together sound like very important dramatic cues especially for Kylo. I'm really glad there are on the FYC. They would have been sorely missed if they are high in the mix in the movie and remained unreleased.

That sustained trumpet that accompanies the imperial march in Journey To Exegol is seriously badass.

Is Rey's Journey the cut scene where she is running to the village of those island inhabitants with her light saber?

I think editing out Yoda's Theme from Reunion and letting Poe's theme flow straight into Rey's theme will be much better.