skyy38 21 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 It seems that George Lucas is fiddling yet AGAIN with Star Wars E4.This time,the changes involve music only.He needs the following:Underscore for the Luke/Han argument aboard the Death Star("....better her than me...")Han and Chewbacca ThemeUnderscore for "prepping for launch" on 4th moon of Yavin.A concert arrangement for The Force theme.(Soundtrack Album)Spotting is completely up to you!If you can,post your stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Interesting idea, skyy. I think that all these but the Force theme would be detrimental (a concert arrangement being independent of the film). Star Wars was very well-spotted (in stark contrast to Empire). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 390 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I would love to do this, if I only had time... What a wonderful assignment! Maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 throne room concert version=force theme concert version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS 1 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Please MIX the force and Darth Vader theme.It would also be COOL to mix Qui Gon's Funeral with Duel of the Fates. Or turn the Darth Vader theme into a fugue.I would LOVE another Star Wars CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius_Gone_Insane 5 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Supposing the upcoming Star Wars TV series is based around Boba Fett, it'd be interesting to see what one of you would come up with for Mr. Fett. I'm thinking a variation on the Mystery motif from AOTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Fett also had a motif in ESB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Here's a good idea, How bout leaving the &$%&%*(#$%@##@E# thing alone!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I can feel your anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Share Posted July 11, 2006 throne room concert version=force theme concert version?Not quite,especially when it's mixed up with Lukes theme.I'm talking about writing a "B" part for the Force theme, of which there is none presently.In Jedi,somewhere,there's an arrangement of the Force,but it's just a modulation for the "B" section.Go back and listen to Princess Leias Theme from ANH(CD 2,Special Edition) and you'll see exactlywhere I'm coming from.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Here is a concert version of the Force theme, mostly based on "The Rebel Fleet/End Titles." Only two minutes long. It may derive from piano sheet music. Source: David Vincent's John Williams MIDI site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordskylark 1 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 You know... instead of re-recording the exact same arrangement with a change here and there and releasing it on a new cd, why don't they make completely new arrangements? Especially with themes that never saw a concert arrangement... Almost every single other recording uses the exact same composition...WHy can't they do more stuff like Williams did when he made a 'Flag Parade' concert arrangement?I would love for a Trade Federation March.~Sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 390 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Two existing possibilities for a B theme in a hypothetical concert arrangement of the force theme, would be the middle section of Anakin's theme, and the "Duel of the Fates" theme (which is actually a rotation of sorts of the force theme). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMacGyver 0 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Han and Chewbacca Theme There was this funny but noble woodwind melody when Chewbacca is running to that bait body in return of the jedi. Somehow, I always looked at this moment as a rudimentary motif for Chewie. Maybe an expansion of that idea in combination with a variation on the rebell fanfare (which I somehow always associated with Han) would make a nice Han and Chewbacca theme.The overall tone would be pretty interesting. A love theme or something heroic. Maybe both? LOLMaybe I will try that Han and Chewie thing. Could be a lot of fun. Problem is that there is no real moment in ep4 between these two characters that would make it necessary to have one theme focusing on both characters, which is, after all, the reason why Williams did not compose such a theme. My version would be solely inspired by how I think and feel about the relationship between Han and Chewie, which is hard because we never actually get to know much about that. According to books and stuff a friend of mine told me (he is an absolute star wars nerd) Chewie was a slave in some sort of imperial mine while Han was an imperial soldier (?) once but somehow they became friends and he rescued chewie from slavery.You know what's really funny about your topic? Today, I actually sat down and tried to come up with better musical ideas for the first pirates of the caribbean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 You know what's really funny about your topic? Today, I actually sat down and tried to come up with better musical ideas for the first pirates of the caribbean.If you are looking for a real challenge, try to come up with even worse ideas 8O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 You know what's really funny about your topic? Today, I actually sat down and tried to come up with better musical ideas for the first pirates of the caribbean.If you are looking for a real challenge, try to come up with even worse ideas 8OTiësto was quite succesful at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 Han and Chewbacca Theme Maybe I will try that Han and Chewie thing. Could be a lot of fun. Problem is that there is no real moment in ep4 between these two characters that would make it necessary to have one theme focusing on both characters, which is, after all, the reason why Williams did not compose such a theme. Why would the score have to hinge on the characters?How about the comic situation ITSELF? Characters don't have to be "motifed" to death,everytime.A light hearted piece of score(think Hanna Barbera style) would be perfect, culminatingin the sound of a high bell or triangle as Luke gets his idea...That's my version,at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 throne room concert version=force theme concert version?No, because the Force theme doesn't have it's own "B" section..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 o_O For this comment you resurrect this old thread?On topic: The "John Williams Anthology" piano album contains a piece "May the Force by with you", which qualifies as a concert version (although it's rather short, it has a B section). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Indeed, especially one this old...there was no need to resurrect an old thread just for one post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Don't you hear part of the Force Theme B section in the finale to Empire? Like it starts it, and then modulates back into the main melody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 On topic: The "John Williams Anthology" piano album contains a piece "May the Force by with you", which qualifies as a concert version (although it's rather short, it has a B section).Is that the version Gerhardt did, which is basically Yoda and the Force where he explains to Luke, and alternately concludes as Luke walks away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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