MSM 126 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 What material do you like best? Just vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 This would be in "Other Topics", right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 If fantasy is defined as unrestrained imagination, which thereby would indicate that any fantastic materials don't actually exist, then obviously one would prefer the tangible material that technology provides since material from fantasy doesn't actually exist.Of course, this all presupposes you're not talking about material in the ethereal sense - in which case, one would always prefer the material from fantasy as it usually fulfills their desires.Wait, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Kevlar all the way. Mithril isn't masculine enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Kevlar stops bullets. Imagination makes peace with God as death encroaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 What material do you like best? Just vote.Dude, you totally didn't have the poll initially!Though my answer still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 What material do you like best? Just vote.Dude, you totally didn't have the poll initially!Though my answer still stands.Sorry it wasn't working first time I posted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Kevlar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm glad kevlar is winning so far. Friggin' elves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 ummmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Should I be glad that I don't know what "mithril" is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 It was the armor used before guns were invented. So technically, it's not fantasy because it existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Kevlar, since this is neither the Middle Ages nor Middle Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I assumed something of the sort, though I thought it was something from "Lord of the Rings", or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Mithril never existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Mail did, it's the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Mithril. Light, efficient, and useful for battling cave trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Mithril pwns mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Should I be glad that I don't know what "mithril" is?Mithril was the most valuable material mined by Dwarves. It was in abundance in the mines at Moria, which became the largest and richest of all Dwarven realms before its fall. It was coveted by all for both its enchanting beauty as well as its toughness as battle armor. A coat of mythril rings was as valuable as the entire Shire, as hard as dragon scales, and could make any wearer appear kingly- even divine....Stop looking at me like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Geek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Should I be glad that I don't know what "mithril" is?Mithril was the most valuable material mined by Dwarves. It was in abundance in the mines at Moria, which became the largest and richest of all Dwarven realms before its fall. It was coveted by all for both its enchanting beauty as well as its toughness as battle armor. A coat of mythril rings was as valuable as the entire Shire, as hard as dragon scales, and could make any wearer appear kingly- even divine....Stop looking at me like that....In other words, yes, I should be glad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 In a nutshell, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Mail did, it's the same thing.No, it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Gore-Tex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Mail did, it's the same thing.No, it isn't.Just watch any of Jackson's TLOTR films. All the races have chain mail armor: humans, elves, dwarves, and orcs alike. If mithril were the same as mail, nobody would have ever died from shots to the abdomen. Only head shots, decapitations, blunt force trauma, explosion, magic, and massive bleeding from loss of limbs would have resulted in casualties. The only person in the movies who survived any kind of shot to the chest was Frodo. Why? Mithril. Mithril trumps iron chain mail.I said the films because they more clearly (and noisily) show chain mail armor than any of the books describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Kewhat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Mail did, it's the same thing.No, it isn't.Just watch any of Jackson's TLOTR films. All the races have chain mail armor: humans, elves, dwarves, and orcs alike. If mithril were the same as mail, nobody would have ever died from shots to the abdomen. Only head shots, decapitations, blunt force trauma, explosion, magic, and massive bleeding from loss of limbs would have resulted in casualties. The only person in the movies who survived any kind of shot to the chest was Frodo. Why? Mithril. Mithril trumps iron chain mail.I said the films because they more clearly (and noisily) show chain mail armor than any of the books describe.Mithril is effing chain mail! And what shots are you talking about? There were no guns!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Calm down, sparky. Spears, crossbows, and simple bows and arrows can all be aimed precisely at a humanoid head to cause the same kind of "head shot" you'd experience from a sniper rifle. It's a lot easier and more efficient for them to aim at their adversaries' torsos because they were protected by steel, not impenetrable mithril.Mithril is used to make chain mail, but most Middle Earth chain mails are made of steel, not mithril. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Then don't declare that some LOTR crap is comparable to real life technology unless you know what you're talking about.I wrote that before you never minded, but it stands. For the record, I did vote for kevlar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Mithril is effing chain mail!Mithril is a metal. It's used (among other things) to make chain mail, but the result is stronger and lighter than chain mail made from regular metals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 One of the Elven Rings was made of mythri too, wasn't it? Galadrial's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Uh...sure...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 That question was directed at my fellow Tolkienite Marian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Then I'll answer. Yes, John is right.Per the Encylcopedia of Arda:The symbol of High Kingship worn by Elendil and Isildur was the Elendilmir, a diamond bound to the brow by a mithril fillet, and Nenya, one of the Three Rings of the Elves, was also made of the metal, again bearing a diamond. Greatest of all, according to legend, was the ship of Eärendil in which he sailed into the sky, making the gleam of truesilver visible to the world as the Evening and Morning Star.And Nenya was called the Ring of Water and the Ring of Adamant; it was borne by Galadriel in Lórien, and used to maintain that land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 That I didn't know. It's really time to read the books again... this time I'll get the shiny simple black paperback editions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I've still got the versions with Alan Lee covers, I wouldn't have it any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I've had this series of The Hobbit and TLOTR since before the movies came out. It's nice not having the movie tie-in set. FOTR and Hobbit were the last printings before the movies, and TTT and ROTK are really old printingsThough I do have the movie tie-in as hardback, just so I could have the trilogy in one tome, but it's easy to disregard the dust jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I've still got the versions with Alan Lee covers, I wouldn't have it any other way.I have that nice big fat box thing with the Alan Lee paintings. The one they used while making the movies (and even as a basis for the DVD menus). It's too big to read comfortably though, and I like those black editions (I have the Sil and Unfinished Tales in those versions.Incidentally, I'm missing one of my Hobbits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I have these, although I bought them seperately, so I don't have the box.I've got The Hobbit and The Silmarillion in the same edition. Never really got through The Silmarillion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 These are what I meant. It would be nice to have the black Hobbit, too... perhaps I should just get a third one for aesthetic reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I did buy FotR and TTT quite a bit earlier than RotK and The Hobbit. For some reason, the later purchases have the title in white, whereas the other two have it in reflective silver. Aesthetics my arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Now that you mention it, my Sil is silver too, while UT is white. The silver is too fat though, the letters of the small print look rather washy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I have these ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Never really got through The Silmarillion though. It is tough the first time, but it's also the most rewarding. I enjoy it just as much as LotR, maybe more.John- who'll post his covers later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The Sil rocks.I have these ones.Me too. The LOTR edition is so heavy that its back broke while I read it. I can recommend the Annotated Hobbit, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Wow, what a trend I started.I only got into the books soon after starting college, in 1999 or 2000, back when the movie was announced but long before it came out. So I did have time to buy all five books and read them before the first movie premiered. in December 2001.I say five books because mom bought The Sil for me for the heck of it. I thought I could start with it, but I was quickly overwhelmed by the first chapter and how out-there it was. After I read the other books and saw the movies, I came back to read The Sil, and I agree that it is easily a grander experience than reading the other books. When I complete my current reading saga, I'd like to re-read it again, either before or after Children of Hurin, which I know will be a quick read, and then go through the LOTR for only my second read through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I have these ones.If that is the 40-odd quid hardback edition, then I have it too.Actually, I've had numerous editions of LotR, over the years, but that one is surely the definitive release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 When I complete my current reading saga, I'd like to re-read it again, either before or after Children of Hurin, which I know will be a quick read, and then go through the LOTR for only my second read through.I recommend reading Hurin first, because most (about 99%, at least that's what it feels like) of it is just material already published in Sil and Unfinished Tales - so it can be a rather dry read when you're already familiar with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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