A24 4,345 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Just now, Stefancos said: Forced by who? The money men, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 But Spielberg is one of the money men. He has his own studio. He's the richest film maker in the world surely. He made an unreasonable amount of money just because his name was on Jurassic World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Classic skirting around the question going on here as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Still months away from the new Star Wars film mate, just passing the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Apparently that's not how Spielberg works, otherwise he wouldn't have complained about the difficulty to get a project financed these days. Don't forget, people wanna see Marvel and Nolan. Everything else is a risk, even a Spielberg film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Still months away from the new Star Wars film mate, just passing the time. I didn't mean you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Apparently that's not how Spielberg works, otherwise he wouldn't have complained about the difficulty to get a project financed these days. Don't forget, people wanna see Marvel and Nolan. Everything else is a risk, even a Spielberg film. That's because Spielberg isnt interested in films that are part of a franchise or a factory line assembly. Of course a Batman film or a sci-fi epic and The Avengers part VIII is easier to finance then a historical drama. Or a childrens film based on a beloved British book that no one in the USA knows. And Spielberg isnt stupid enough to pay for these film out of his own pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 7 hours ago, Stefancos said: I haven't even seen War Horse, or Lincoln. There are plenty of Spielberg films I don't care for. But I don't think that's because he got forced into makkng them. War Horse was the last one I watched. It looked gorgeous and I got it was supposed to feel like a 1940's movie... but it had no soul. And even John Williams' highly nostalgic and emotional score couldn't save it. The last Spielberg film I enjoyed was The Adventures of Tintin. And even that wasn't terrific. A.I. was the most intriguing film he's made in the 21st century... probably by accident. But it couldn't make up its mind what it wanted to be. It was stuck between Kubrick-like parable and real-life drama. And these two don't mesh well. I guess Minority Report was entertaining.. but made some very strange tonal choices. Saving Private Ryan had some amazing sequences but felt weak script-wise. War of the Worlds had cool sequences, sound and effects.. but fell flat. The Lost World had cool jungle footage and some bits that were ok. But it's a weak film. I can't remember anything from Amistad. So that leaves us Schindler's List. That's the last film he's done that was very good and felt real. So there you have it, the last time Spielberg was truly relevant was 23 years ago. And I'm 31 now. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Relevant? What does that mean though? Hoe does that relate to being a good or great director? Is Nolan relevant? Is Tarantino (still) relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Relevant as in someone who can tell a complete story, regardless of the material. I don't believe Spielberg most of the time. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Ok. I don't really know what to do with that answer, but if thats the way you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Lincoln is a masterpiece. Bridge of Spies is a great, near-masterpiece. Irrefutable! Both are certainly much better than the just very-good War Horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Bridge Of Spies is very good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 It certainly makes me excited to see the future Spielberg-Rylance collaborations. He was of course perfect in BoS and, whatever else you may say about BFG, I thought his performance was one of the most interesting parts of that movie, it was definitely one of the more expressive mocap perfs I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 He wasn't mocap! I'm convinced he just became a giant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Lincoln is a masterpiece. Bridge of Spies is a great, near-masterpiece. Irrefutable! Both are certainly much better than the just very-good War Horse. I tried to watch Lincoln... three times. And fell asleep. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Just now, crocodile said: I tried to watch Lincoln... three times. And fell asleep. Karol Maybe it's because I'm predisposed to be interested in films about American history but I found it to be riveting, especially DDL's performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I haven't watched it because I only have very minimal interest in American history, but I do want to watch it at some point just to examine and probably enjoy the craftsmanship. My understanding is it's a very good film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 It's not the one about vampires. Just so you know. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Cunt Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I'd say Munich was the last film where he really took risks, but like a lot of recent Spielberg films, it has great individual sequences and it's better than a lot of current movies but there's something of the whole that it's really close to perfection but for some reason doesn't quite reach there. Oscar bait hurts his work. Filmmaking can be a long process. I tend to think about those directors that are working four or more years of their lives on a film they know is shit, but they have to do it anyways. Sometimes it's just the job, and not everything you do can be perfect. Otherwise you'd end up like Kubrick or Mallick with very few films per decade. Of course, you could argue that fewer films raises the quality of your work, but not everyone can afford -or want- to do that. Guys like Spielberg or Allen seem to like keeping themselves busy. The day they stop working, they die. But who knows, maybe The Kidnapping of Edgardo Montara will take some risks and surprise us. And Ready Player One could return to that 80's goodness that people seem to miss so much of him. Though it raises the question, if he still into that kind of films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 He obviously isnt of he would have kept making them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 6 hours ago, Lonnegan said: Plus there's people like Koray or GreyPilgrim who come along and say they prefer his later work anyway. I just like Munich, don't care for the rest. Spielberg was never one of my favorite directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Nor was Williams ever one of your favorite composers, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 He's my favorite composer after Morricone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Bridge of Spies is a great, near-masterpiece. It's not. Refuted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 51 minutes ago, Muad'Dib said: I'd say Munich was the last film where he really took risks, but like a lot of recent Spielberg films, it has great individual sequences and it's better than a lot of current movies but there's something of the whole that it's really close to perfection but for some reason doesn't quite reach there. I disagree with this conclusion. I only saw it the once, years ago, but I thought it was an excellent film. 28 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: I just like Munich, don't care for the rest. Spielberg was never one of my favorite directors. Don't you prefer Michael Bay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Munich was indeed his last film of interest. He hasn't had anything particularly interesting to say since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: It's not. Refuted! It's irrefutable! Refutation not recognized! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 minute ago, KK said: Munich was indeed his last film of interest. He hasn't had anything particularly interesting to say since then. To be honest, the second time wasn't as good as the first. CMIYC scored better in that regard. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 58 minutes ago, Lonnegan said: Don't you prefer Michael Bay? Transformers > Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,371 Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Good one, Koray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 50 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: To be honest, the second time wasn't as good as the first. CMIYC scored better in that regard. Alex You're probably right. But then, I completely forgot it exists. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Transformers > Raiders You better not be serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I always forget about Catch Me if You Can, too. Which is odd since I thoroughly enjoyed it. Maybe he's made too many great movies to remember them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Who cares if he is? It fits with what we expect an online Koray Savas opinion to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 40 minutes ago, Lonnegan said: I always forget about Catch Me if You Can, too. Which is odd since I thoroughly enjoyed it. Maybe he's made too many great movies to remember them all. It's a strange phenomenon. I also enjoyed it, and the score is very good, but it just doesn't linger in memory for some reason. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 It lingers in my memory because this is still my one of my favorite Williams performances you can find on Youtube: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Yes, but we are talking about the film. The score I can remember just fine. karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Ah, I think that stays in my memory because it airs on cable television constantly in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: You better not be serious! You'll never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Tell me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 8 hours ago, Stefancos said: He wasn't mocap! I'm convinced he just became a giant Just like DDL became Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 6 hours ago, crocodile said: You're probably right. But then, I completely forgot it exists. Karol Completely? 4 hours ago, crocodile said: It's a strange phenomenon. I also enjoyed it, and the score is very good, but it just doesn't linger in memory for some reason. Karol Watch it again then. You might be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I will give it a rewatch soon then. Finished Stranger Things last night. Despite all the (well) regurgitated material, it was very enjoyable. Perhaps a tad too long. All kids are great. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,371 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 The kids were indeed great, they really found kids with good acting chops. I think they'll have no problem finding more work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 They new the importance of casting very distinctive looking children, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Lonnegan said: They new the importance of casting very distinctive looking children, too. ¿Que? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Knew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Ah! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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