nightscape94 965 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Underrated comedy in my opinion. Glóin the Dark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Wow! Tonight's instalment of RNC was more like an Episode 9 of Game of Thrones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 3 more episodes of Bloodline to go and it's great. Watched the first episode of Stranger Things and it was just okay, watchable enough but didn't really grab me like I was expecting. Early days though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 And: https://twitter.com/FMNATV/status/756644198208516097/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Checked out the first 2 episodes of Stranger Things. Meh, not quite feeling it yet. It looks handsomely produced, and has a sense of style I like, but ultimately it really does look like little more than a mix of 80s adventure/Scifi tropes and homages. Also am I the only one who finds it hard to stomach Wionna Ryder's overacting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Yeah her ham was immediately apparent to me. Has she really been away from acting for years or something? Is she rusty or is it schlock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Well she was in Star Trek (2009) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 She wasn't very good in the first episode of Stranger Things. A quick Google seems to to suggest she's been well received in though, so I'll wait and see what happens. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/winona-ryder-is-ideal-in-eighties-mystery-series-stranger-things-but-whats-next-for-her-big-comeback-a7148016.html%3famp?client=ms-android-oneplus# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I wrote it off after two episodes. And not because of WR. Get screenwriters that have ideas beyond dressing up old corpses. This is like 'Super 8' dragged out for 10 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I give it one season. There's just not enough Goonies around anymore to warrant a second one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 There's been a couple of shows I've almost stopped with after the early episodes but thankfully gave a chance to find their footing. I'll give Stranger Things the benefit of the doubt for a couple more, and well because the pilot wasn't exactly horrible anyway. It was okay. One of the main reasons I'm watching actually is because my trusted TV guy couldn't tell me to watch it quick enough. He watched all 8 in a weekend apparently. Being a career bum he's clued up on all the current golden age stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Maybe, maybe not. The lack of zeitgeist in the basic setup - as if escapism didn't move on since 1982 - wore me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 We'll see, it's no biggie. If it turns out shit I'll tell you. I never had you down as an ET and The Goonies sort of lad in the first place, to be fair. Oh and agreed about Super 8. It was a weak imitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Super 8 was mediocre, Stranger Things is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 The reception has been extremely positive and the ratings were high. "One season". Heh, classic out of touch Cremers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 It'll definitely get renewed. It's "the" popular thing on TV at the moment I think. But like pub said, so far it's failed to move past the 80s roots it's so desperately trying to pay tribute to. Almost every character/plot device/event is tied to some 80s Hollywood escapist film. It's entertaining enough I guess, but still seems...pointless. I'll stick through it though, and see where it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I think the likelihood is a lot of people have enjoyed it for the Stephen King feels. His adaptions have a terrible track record as far as quality is concerned, but people still loved them regardless. Heavily derivative as they were. They were 90s productions btw; you're making a mistake if you think the appeal of this hinges solely on its 80s setting. If Stranger Things tips a big hat to that schlocky formula and executes it better than any of those tv movies ever did then its success is obvious. Under the Dome tried and blew it, but word is this one doesn't miss the bullseye. Maybe because Spielberg TV wasn't involved? Ooo such irony would taste delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I haven't seen the Under the Dome show, but from what I understand it takes extreme liberties with the book, which I loved. As far as Stranger Things is concerned, I am not fanatical about it because of Stephen King or Steven Spielberg. Their DNA is in the show but it's not either of them in the end. I simply enjoyed the hell out of it. It's the first show in a long time I wanted to watch again right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I Just began Stranger Things. This is really E.T., but when shit hit the fan. In any case, it raise a very important issue. What the hell they did with Matthew Modine's hair??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 They gave him Ted Danson's. And when you wait long enough, you also get unctuous variations on 'Poltergeist' and 'Jurassic Park'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Wow. I just looked it up. Winona Ryder? 1980s? Sci-fi? I'm there! As soon as I finish the 6-episode arc that begins season 6 of Deep Space Nine. I'm never excited for anything new anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I was 9 yo in 1983. When I saw that yellow telephone, it reminded me very bad memories. Stranger Things. Ours was avocado. The oven was too... as the fridge... I'm not sure I will be able to watch this to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Winona was mostly better in episode 2. Mowstly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 5 hours ago, Nick Tatopoulos's Beret said: Wow. I just looked it up. Winona Ryder? 1980s? Sci-fi? I'm there! As soon as I finish the 6-episode arc that begins season 6 of Deep Space Nine. I'm never excited for anything new anymore. How did you miss my hype of it? On 7/8/2016 at 2:00 PM, Jay said: I'm sure it's already been posted but I haven't seen the trailers until today: Netflix has a new show coming out next Friday that looks pretty good! It stars Winona Ryder and the trailers definitely evoke Super 8, ET, and a little bit of CE3K and maybe some Stephen King We've got one episode left to go and its excellent, but the score is terrible. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Funny, I've heard the show is a nostalgia overdose bore but that the score is something uncommonly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Why would I have heard about it? It's not Star Trek, John Williams, Batman or Disneyland related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, TheWhiteRider said: Funny, I've heard the show is a nostalgia overdose bore but that the score is something uncommonly good. It depends if you like 80s John Carpenter music, because that's how all the original score in the show sounds. Great use of 80s pop and rock music, though. The show is essentially ET, Poltergeist, Firestarter, Stand By Me, The Goonies, and a few other 80s movies mashed together, with additional influences from or references to Carrie, Close Encounters, Evil Dead, The Thing, and even Under The Skin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 John Carpenter music?! Huh, I've been lied to! How could that be good... I'll have to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Nick Tatopoulos's Beret said: Why would I have heard about it? It's not Star Trek, John Williams, Batman or Disneyland related. Speaking of Disney, are you ready to commit Harry Carry over this? http://io9.gizmodo.com/disneys-guardians-of-the-galaxy-ride-is-just-the-beginn-1784215511 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Do not want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, TheWhiteRider said: John Carpenter music?! Huh, I've been lied to! How could that be good... I'll have to investigate. The score is completely electronic (at least it is 7 episodes in). It's either your thing or it isn't. Personally I didn't think it always suited the show properly, but of course a lot of people are gonna love it. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I've never been a fan of Carpenter's stuff - it tends to waste nice textures and colors on, well, not much at all. What I'd heard was more indicative of a Vangelis vibe. I can only find the main title music at the moment, and it does seem more Carpenter than Vangelis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's more like a shrine to Carpenter than a fully functioning score. It just doesn't feel in-sync with the tone of the show (both as a whole and on a scene-to-scene basis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 A few more episodes in. It gets better. I see the appeal. It presents a different spirit to what else is offered in modern television, with the production values of a large-scale film. To its credit, there is some evocative imagery here and there (I like the otherworldly Under the Skin-style sequence). But ultimately, the core of the show still feels lightweight and redundant. Winona Ryder becomes tolerable, but she wasn't the only one here with the shoddy acting anyway. The score sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Has some nice atmospheric moments, but doesn't veer much away from dressed-up 80s electronica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Sounds like the schlock gets into full swing. People love schlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 4 hours ago, TheWhiteRider said: I've never been a fan of Carpenter's stuff - it tends to waste nice textures and colors on, well, not much at all. What I'd heard was more indicative of a Vangelis vibe. I can only find the main title music at the moment, and it does seem more Carpenter than Vangelis. I haven't heard it but these days the sound of John Carpenter is more 'en vogue' than that of Vangelis. Why? Because the synth music of Carpenter is entirely void of lyricism and thus more fitting the taste of modern audiences. It's retro and therefore it wants to bring back lyricism, you say? Hmm, I find that hard to believe. Sometimes I think you would say anything to win an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: I haven't heard it but these days the sound of John Carpenter is more 'en vogue' than that of Vangelis. Why? Because the synth music of Carpenter is entirely void of lyricism and thus more fitting the taste of modern audiences. It's retro and therefore it wants to bring back lyricism, you say? Hmm, I find that hard to believe. Sometimes I think you would say anything to win an argument. What in the fuck are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Isnt comparing Vangelis with John Carpenter a little like comparing The Beatles with The Monkees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I don't know. I didn't compare anyone to anything nor say anything that Alex is referring to. He seems to have misread, or he's hallucinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 No, we are simply not understanding what he is talking about, which is our fault, not his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 All I'm saying is that the sound of Vangelis is no longer in demand. Sure, in the last ten years we've heard a bit of Blade Runner in Watchmen, but that's it. On the other hand, the colder sound of Carpenter seems to be totally hip these days. I keep hearing it everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's easier to understand and easier for other composers to emulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I don't own any of his scores, but I always appreciate and enjoy Carpenter's musical contribution to his films. Same as I do Clint Eastwood's. The landscape has plenty of room for filmmakers who like to dabble with audiovisual in the musical sense, and those two do it well. Carpenter even managed to be iconic with it. Escape From New York is his best score IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's the same reason why so many composers sound like Zimmer rather then Williams, because they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I feel an urge to go back to see more shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Reluctantly watched until E5. Easy to digest but me categorically doesn't dig this counting rhyme style (Poltergeist hidden worlds in closet: check, CEOTK lightshow: check E. T. lower middle class suburbia and government conspiracy: check, Jurassic Park: guy getting mauled by unseen forces etc.). It stifles any element of surprise and what's more, it's a disservice to the better cast members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I just finished the new batch of Bojack Horsemen episodes. Even better than the excellent season 2. It's quickly becoming one of my favorite currently-airing TV shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 Marian Schedenig and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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