BigMacGyver 0 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Doug Fake gave us some clues for Intrada's next Special Collection release:Our next Special Collection release arrives on October 10. If you're not worn down from an onslaught of choices on the market lately, tune in for our official announcement on Monday, October 9, around 5:15 PM our time.We've paired two scores on one CD. World premieres, of course. One's by one of the most popular and represented Academy Award winning composers of all time. (Sorry, no Goldsmith for a change!) The other's by a highly talented but far less represented composer. 1200 copies."World premiere" release by "one of the most popular and represented academy award winning composers of all time". Certainly fits Williams and as far as I know, the only releaseable williams-score for Intrada that is still left and without a proper release would be Monsignor. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Vincent 8 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 It is surely John Williams, which is a good news, for Monsignor, I really don't know but it can be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 But... Monsignor wouldn't be a world premiere release, would it? Unless they mean just on CD....It sounds like something good, I suspect I'll want it.One's by one of the most popular and represented Academy Award winning composers of all time.That's probably Williams.The other's by a highly talented but far less represented composer.Basil Poledouris? Michael Small? I'm assuming it will be another Silver Age composer...1200 copies.Shit. There goes another night's sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I guess if it's a Williams we'll have to order within minutes to avoid another inchon fiascoK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMacGyver 0 Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 But... Monsignor wouldn't be a world premiere release, would it? Unless they mean just on CD....Hm, maybe Spacecamp is another possibility? But there is an LP of this one as well. There is even an LP of Cinderella Liberty. Maybe it is Images? There was only a promo LP if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I already have Monsignor. Now that's an underrated Williams score.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 But... Monsignor wouldn't be a world premiere release, would it? Unless they mean just on CD....Hm, maybe Spacecamp is another possibility? But there is an LP of this one as well. There is even an LP of Cinderella Liberty. Maybe it is Images? There was only a promo LP if I remember correctly.Space Camp has been released on CD by RCA Japan, on a limited 1000 copies release.Of those the only one which haven't had a comercial release was Images.Edit: while Monsignor seems to be the most likelly candidate -- I've heard that a master is available and only waiting to be released -- it could be an early work, if we want to take the "premiere" word literaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Monsignor was never officially released on c.d.k.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMacGyver 0 Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Monsignor was never officially released on c.d. But on LP and thus it does not qualify as world premiere release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Could it be The Sugarland Express? That would certainly qualify as a world premiere (assuming they're not counting the bootleg)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Oooooooooooooooooh! Sugarland Expressssssss!!!!! Does the official announcement come by e-mail? I have just subscribed to their mailing list in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 What if it's Alfred Newman?If Williams, it can be either "Sugarland Express" or "Family Plot". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Either would be fantastic.What if it's Alfred Newman?It's a possibility. But I just think it will be a silver age composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Oooooooooooooooooh! Family Plottttt!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Oooooooooooooooooh! Family Plottttt!!!!! "I don't know what's come over me tonight. I'm tingling all over."If Williams, it can be either "Sugarland Express" or "Family Plot".What about Images? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Oooooooooooooooooh! Family Plottttt!!!!! If it is then I'm ordering 50 copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 If Williams, it can be either "Sugarland Express" or "Family Plot".What about Images?Oh, true, "Images" is another possibility.Sorry, Stefan, you can't buy so many CDs anymore, it's limited to a certain amount of copies by person now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Geez you actually took me seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Geez you actually took me seriously.I did I'm a bit worried the pressing is limited to only 1.200 copies Why so few? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Family Plot would be the best case scenarioSugarland Express would be the least interesting option.I have the boot and I can't say there's anything on there I likeImages is mostly unlistenablecould also be Black SundayWhat if it's Alfred Newman?Alfred Newman is not popular.k.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 His best work was that 20 second Fox Fanfare thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 The Airport Main Titles are amazing,but I can't think of much elseK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Parts of The Robe are pretty decent, if oldfasioned.I'm not much of a fan of Golden Age music.Steiners romantic drivel drives me up the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 could also be Black SundayK.m.I don't think so. That's a long score, and this new Intrada CD shares the disc space with another soundtrack. It has to be a relatively short score if it is a Williams score at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMacGyver 0 Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 It cant be Sugarland Express, simply because Doug Fake stated in the intrada forum that Williams himself does not want that score to be released. Black Sunday is Paramount and out of the game. Family Plot is Universal and it is still uncertain if Intrada has any access to that Studio's music catalogue beyond the special arrangement that was developed for the Amazing Stories anthology release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Could be just another 60's comedy score Williams did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Could be just another 60's comedy score Williams did.1969 - Daddy's Gone A-Hunting1966 - The Plainsman1966 - Penelope1966 - How to Steal a Million1965 - The Katherine Reed Story1965 - None But the Brave1964 - The Killers1963 - Gidget Goes to Rome1962 - Bachelor Flat1962 - Stark Fear1961 - The Secret Ways1960 - Because They're Young1960 - I Passed for White1959 - Daddy-O :? Just to name a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 What if it's Alfred Newman?Oh you young fools. It's Alan Menken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Could be just another 60's comedy score Williams did.1969 - Daddy's Gone A-Hunting1966 - The Plainsman1966 - Penelope1966 - How to Steal a Million1965 - The Katherine Reed Story1965 - None But the Brave1964 - The Killers1963 - Gidget Goes to Rome1962 - Bachelor Flat1962 - Stark Fear1961 - The Secret Ways1960 - Because They're Young1960 - I Passed for White1959 - Daddy-O :? Just to name a fewBoth Katherine Reed Story and Stark fear are episodes from tv series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I think some of you are setting yourself up for disappointment.It's two scores on one disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMacGyver 0 Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Well, after taking everything into account I am pretty sure now that this is going to be Images. It would also make sense to pair this rather short score with a work from a more unknown composer and make it a limited edition single disc release of 1200 copies, although I assume this one will sell as fast as Inchon did.Only a little more than 10 days until we will find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I think Family Plot is about 45 minutes long.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana_Fett 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Daddy-O? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 It's probably not a score that we've been waiting for long, I mean 1200 copies... Heatbeeps was 2000 I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 It could also be Henry Mancini or John Barry. Both have several oscars and are beloved.And he may not be popular here but Alfred Newman is popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I think Family Plot is about 45 minutes long.K.M.Yes, and The Sugarland Express bootleg is 40 (but I don't know if that's the complete score), and the Images tracks on the bootleg amount to less than 40 mins... but again, I don't know if that's complete.It could be any of those, it could be any unreleased John Barry/Mancini score (as the other Mark said)... I don't know! But it had better be something good.With Barry, it could be:WalkaboutRobin & MarianRaise the TitanicWith Mancini or A. Newman it could be just about anything - they've both got many possible unreleased scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMacGyver 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 Yes, and The Sugarland Express bootleg is 40 (but I don't know if that's the complete score), and the Images tracks on the bootleg amount to less than 40 mins... but again, I don't know if that's complete.It could be any of those,It can't be Sugarland Express, because Williams does not want that one out. He feels that the re-recording of the theme is all that folks need. That's at least what Doug Fake said, so we should not expect Sugarland Express to come out anytime soon.This is fake's original statement:"Believe this or not, Williams has specifically asked Universal not to issue this. He really doesn't feel the whole score is listenable though we've certainly told him we think it is. He feels the theme that he recorded is enough to satisfy. In any case, Universal wants to respect his desires for some strange reason. Gads. You'd think this Williams guy is somebody important... " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I can't imagine Intrada limiting Monsignor to 1200Hope I'm wrong though, cause I really want that in good sound... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I'm leaning more towards it being either a Mancini or a Barry, or else some Golden Age stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMacGyver 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 I'm leaning more towards it being either a Mancini or a Barry, or else some Golden Age stuff.But there is still "most popular composer (...) of all time" and that pretty much only fits John Williams. At least I am not aware of a composer who is more commonly known and popular than him.Besides, Doug Fake said there aren't any Golden Age titles on their schedule for now because their last few golden age releases sold very slow and he feels that people want more of the recent stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Sorry, but I can't imagine a new Williams limited to only 1200.I know that it happened before, but in this case... I just can't imagine.Nemesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMacGyver 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 Sorry, but I can't imagine a new Williams limited to only 1200.I know that it happened before, but in this case... I just can't imagine. I can, if the title is an obscure one like Images. Doug Fake said that Intrada estamines the amount of copies mainly by looking at the popularity of the title. Saturn 3 was according to him a most requested one and that "only" received 2500 copies. Bandolero and Inchon on the other hand, were Goldsmith-releases and both had less than 2000 copies pressed mainly because the titles were not exactly popular or requested. Now, if there is a release of Images which most people except hardcore williams fans probably never heard of before, a limitation of 1200 units would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 It would be awsome if it would be a Williams release, but I will wait until I see it before I go to deep in this "it will be a Williams release for a 100%" thing (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 John Barry Walkabout would be nice. It's a lovely score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyecks 33 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Here goes................ how can I rationalize buying this cd off of eBay for %80 of it's original value to my wife after the "Inchon" release.Why can't these splurges happen throughout the year instead of being spread out.<JackBauer> DAMNIT </JackBauer> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMacGyver 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 Doug gave away another clue which pretty much cancels out John Williams, Horner, Goldsmith, Alfred Newman and every composer who died prior to the 70's:Think outside of the box, or something like that. In other words, there are several composers with Oscars and literally dozens of CDs that aren't named Williams, Goldsmith or Horner. Alfred Newman would be a good guess were it not for the fact he was dead when this one was scored. Whoooops! Another clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 It sounds like that Disney guy.K.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Doug gave away another clue which pretty much cancels out John Williams, Horner, Goldsmith, Alfred Newman and every composer who died prior to the 70's:Think outside of the box, or something like that. In other words, there are several composers with Oscars and literally dozens of CDs that aren't named Williams, Goldsmith or Horner. Alfred Newman would be a good guess were it not for the fact he was dead when this one was scored. Whoooops! Another clue.It's sounding more and more like John Barry. He's a well-known composer, well represented on CD, he's five-time Oscar winner, and Walkabout is from 1971, one year after Alfred Newman died, and the original tracks are also previously unreleased, unless you count bootlegs or re-recordings. That gets my guess, and I for one would be delighted if it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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