filmmusic 1,848 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 It's IMDB, filmmusic. It's always like that when a big movie comes out. Give it time, and Interstellar's place will change. Trust me (it may not be pushed out the top 250, but it sure won't stay at the 11th place).Maybe, maybe not..The Dark Knight after 6 years, is number 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just wait and see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Wait 20 more years and you'll see TDK will be pushed back to place 10 by Nolan's latest flicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 By his next film he'll be able to fill the entire top 10! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Nolan is AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Do you have faith, Master Cosman?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 No. I was being sarcastic.Nolan is a good director, with a few issues that prevents me from being convinced of his greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 "Great" is not what I would call him (even as a fan). Not yet, anyway. But "good" or "very good" status he can achieve in my book.Karol Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Nolan needs to get better at bringing characters to life. Something that happens far too infrequently in his films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just got a ticket for a 4K showing in a couple of hours. I have avoided most discussion about it, so I'm going in pretty fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Nolan needs to get better at bringing characters to life. Something that happens far too infrequently in his films.Yeah. Nolan works so meticulously on his plots, that he needs to learn that sometimes it's less about the plot and more about the characters, and sometimes those smaller details don't matter.Interstellar shows signs of improvement though, thanks to McConaughey and the very effective father-daughter relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'd say it's mostly down of acting in this instance.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I do too.But to Nolan's credit, this might be the first time where he actively tries to revolve his film around a more human relationship. Where the characters are more than just pieces of his plot puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I still need to see the Prestige. How are the characters there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Everyone's miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I've never found his characters flat except for Inception to a degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Ofcourse you didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I've never seen more flat characters than in Inception. Fortunately, The Prestige has characters that are a lot more fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The best character in Inception is the one played by Tom Hardy. Love the colonial swagger Hardy gives him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I still need to see the Prestige. How are the characters there?Despicable but interesting.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Speaking of Nolan characters, coincidentally, and to annoy Pilgrim, this is what I came across today in The Telegraph:As a student at UCL, Nolan was an obsessive champion of Ridley Scott’s 1982 film Blade Runner. Just as that film transferred into a future setting the standard motifs of film noir – notably a flawed hero, attempting to do the right thing in a morally bankrupt universe – the same genre has provided the template and inspiration for almost all of Nolan’s work. Whether it’s his no-budget debut, Following, or his multi-million Batman follow-up, Inception, Nolan zeroes in on ambiguous anti-heroes and the complexities of navigating a righteous path in a broken world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just got a ticket for a 4K showing in a couple of hours. I have avoided most discussion about it, so I'm going in pretty fresh.Same here. Looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Speaking of Nolan characters, coincidentally, and to annoy Pilgrim, this is what I came across today in The Telegraph:As a student at UCL, Nolan was an obsessive champion of Ridley Scott’s 1982 film Blade Runner. Just as that film transferred into a future setting the standard motifs of film noir – notably a flawed hero, attempting to do the right thing in a morally bankrupt universe – the same genre has provided the template and inspiration for almost all of Nolan’s work. Whether it’s his no-budget debut, Following, or his multi-million Batman follow-up, Inception, Nolan zeroes in on ambiguous anti-heroes and the complexities of navigating a righteous path in a broken world.Why would that annoy me? Plenty does, but why would that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Speaking of Nolan characters, coincidentally, and to annoy Pilgrim, this is what I came across today in The Telegraph:As a student at UCL, Nolan was an obsessive champion of Ridley Scott’s 1982 film Blade Runner. Just as that film transferred into a future setting the standard motifs of film noir – notably a flawed hero, attempting to do the right thing in a morally bankrupt universe – the same genre has provided the template and inspiration for almost all of Nolan’s work. Whether it’s his no-budget debut, Following, or his multi-million Batman follow-up, Inception, Nolan zeroes in on ambiguous anti-heroes and the complexities of navigating a righteous path in a broken world.It's pretty obvious. But so far Nolan never achieved that stunning visual esthetic that Scott in his prime had. Even though it's obvious he tries very hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Not quite. He once said he tried to match this kind of complexity in his scripts, not so much visuals.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 How? and why?Generally speaking Scott's films aren't really about the scripts. Some of his films have excellent scripts yes, but they are clearly the starting point for Scott. He uses then to tell the story in a much more visual manner then Nolan's talky scripts tend to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 How? and why?Generally speaking Scott's films aren't really about the scripts. Some of his films have excellent scripts yes, but they are clearly the starting point for Scott. He uses then to tell the story in a much more visual manner then Nolan's talky scripts tend to do.That's what I said. Nolan wants to honour Scott's visual density in his script density.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Okay....(puzzled) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Courtesy of Alex Cremer's signature:"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Poor Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 You can always tell Wes Anderson to stop making quirky talky films with cold sarcastic characters. And so on.It's just what he does. Take it or leave it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 It's just what he does. Take it or leave it.KarolThat's a bit easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The point is, there is not much we can add to this topic.His films are talky? Yes.There'a lot of spoken exposition? Yes.Can I see why so many people see it as a problem? Sure.But then, is it possible for studio to finance an expensive project like this without all that in place? No, not really.He seems to film his stories as an attempt to look more every day so that it feels more real to you, rather than grand and stylised. All of which is a fair choice. And it seems like a concious one as well.What seems really surprising for me, though, is that people seem to be disappointed by the same exact things every single time his film comes out. I mean, after nine pictures you should have an idea.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Ive only seen like 4 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,033 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The other five are like that, too.Just with budgets ranging from.... well... nothing (Following) to 250 million dollars.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Was there really anything hard to follow plotwise in TDK? With Inception, I can kinda understand it (even if I don't fully agree), but with TDK?The Michael Mann-without-style police procedural stuff in the first half is all pretty mind-numbing, with mobsters, cops and Chinese businessmen you don't give a shit about. It can be easy to tune out and miss things. I know I did on my first viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I saw this on the weekend. Amazing film and I was skeptical going in considering I thought MOS was a joke and TDKR was sub-par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 MOS was not Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,442 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Well he produced it, and wrote the story with Goyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Don't taint MOS with Nolan's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Don't taint Nolan's name with MOS. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Nolan's name couldn't be any more tainted if he tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Nolan's mirror universe version wrote MOS, he's caled 'Nalon'.Man of Shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Fuck you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I wish MOS had more Krypton material as that was miles better than the rest of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Was there really anything hard to follow plotwise in TDK? With Inception, I can kinda understand it (even if I don't fully agree), but with TDK?The Michael Mann-without-style police procedural stuff in the first half is all pretty mind-numbing, with mobsters, cops and Chinese businessmen you don't give a shit about. It can be easy to tune out and miss things. I know I did on my first viewing.That's what I mean.A later sequence with night vision goggles was also executed in a confusing manner. I didn't even know why Batman was there or what he was doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Good grief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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