The Poseidon Adventure by John Williams

[Trent B 337]

Ah thanks Frank. So I was half right...but hopefully tomorrow ID-4 starts shipping along with the rest of the Poseidon Adventure orders.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

I ordered it

[Trent B 337]

Someone on FSM said he noticed his card had been pinged for his ID-4 order and wonders if that means they're starting to ship them. That's a good possibility.

[indy4 155]

The Poseidon Adventure has arrived!

[Josh500 1,615]

The Poseidon Adventure has arrived!

And?

What would interest me is, is this better than Earthquake? I have seen Earthquake and know the score, but I have neither seen the Poseidon movie nor heard its score...

[King Mark 3,631]

I think Poseidon has probably the first great classic Williams theme for a movie

In Earthquake I only like the cue The City Sleeps...I assume it's the end credits .Sounds like an early version of The Planet Krypton

[Naïve Old Fart 9,533]

The Poseidon Adventure has arrived!

And?

What would interest me is, is this better than Earthquake? I have seen Earthquake and know the score, but I have neither seen the Poseidon movie nor heard its score...

It is diferent from "Earthquake", which is "modern" in its approach. If "The Poseidon Adventure" has a "partner", it would be "The Towering Inferno". Let us all know how you get on...

[Josh500 1,615]

The Poseidon Adventure has arrived!

And?

What would interest me is, is this better than Earthquake? I have seen Earthquake and know the score, but I have neither seen the Poseidon movie nor heard its score...

It is diferent from "Earthquake", which is "modern" in its approach. If "The Poseidon Adventure" has a "partner", it would be "The Towering Inferno". Let us all know how you get on...

I don't have Towering Inferno either...

I wonder whether I am in the minority here.

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

I've never owned copies of Poseidon, Inferno, or Earthquake.

I see there are a couple of copies of Earthquake on Amazon right now for about $40, but I'm hesitant to shell out for anything OOP anymore, as ambitious as our labels have been as of late.

[John Crichton 4]

I've never owned copies of Poseidon, Inferno, or Earthquake.

Me either. Hopefully the latter two will get new releases also.

John- still waiting for his to ship with ID4

[Josh500 1,615]

I've never owned copies of Poseidon, Inferno, or Earthquake.

I see there are a couple of copies of Earthquake on Amazon right now for about $40, but I'm hesitant to shell out for anything OOP anymore, as ambitious as our labels have been as of late.

Strictly speaking, I don't "have" Earthquake, either, I just have the "Main Title" and "Love Theme" from a Japanese JW compilation... they're the original recordings from the OS, though.

[Trent B 337]

Does anyone know if MV's posted stating the ID-4 orders have shipped out yet?

[Wojo 2,453]

Well, first I ordered only ID4 from LLR because I didn't think to use PayPal. Then I emailed MV to add The Poseidon Adventure, and he told me just to create a second order stating "$5 discount free shipping" in the comments, which I placed the day after ID4. Yesterday I received TPA by itself.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

yay, it shipped!

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I love "Through the Galley".

[King Mark 3,631]

I don't get it .

It says in the liner notes ALL the score is in stereo but End Titles(The Rescue) still sounds like mono.Then it's written the alt End Title is the only surviving stereo recording of the End Titles(and it does sound stereo)

what gives?

Getting The Rescue in stereo was my main reason to buy this

[Wojo 2,453]

I didn't even open my album, or I'd examine the WAV in SoundForge and let you know.

[Ollie 1,059]

Crap, it figures the one cue I wanted the most in stereo didn't survive.

[King Mark 3,631]

It's a bit contradictory:

"For this release,the 2" tape was transferred to Pro-Tools,...allowing the entire score to be presented in stereo, along with alternates and source cues..."

and then:

"Track 28: End Titles (alternate)..this track was chosen to conclude the album as it is the only surviving stereo recording of the End Title"

So are the End Titles from the score proper in stereo and I can't hear it?

[Trent B 337]

Is the "End Titles" on the DVD in stereo? If so why not just rip it from the DVD?

[Ollie 1,059]

That's what I thought as well but I think part of it is covered by sound effects. Plus they may have used the same source for the DVD.

[steb74 53]

Have you had a chance to compare it to the FSM version yet?

There was some talk about the Main Title also not being in stereo and while it doesn't sound quite as stereo as some of the other tracks, it's clearly wider than the FSM version.

I'm still waiting for my copy so as of yet I've only heard the samples.

[Ollie 1,059]

I ordered ID4 so I have to wait another few days.

[King Mark 3,631]

Have you had a chance to compare it to the FSM version yet?

There was some talk about the Main Title also not being in stereo and while it doesn't sound quite as stereo as some of the other tracks, it's clearly wider than the FSM version.

I'm still waiting for my copy so as of yet I've only heard the samples.

Yes,I listened to both side by side. The new release sounds more powerful and better sounding for sure including main/end titles, but if it's stereo it must be subtle because I have problems hearing it.

[steb74 53]

Ah, I forgot you ordered both.

Well, if the difference is similar to what I mentioned above for the Main Title it should at least be an improvement over the FSM version.

Fingers crossed anyway!

Do you have your copy yet KM? .......you've just answered

Yes,I listened to both side by side. The new release sounds more powerful and better sounding for sure including main/end titles, but if it's stereo it must be subtle because I have problems hearing it.

Well, that's good news I suppose.

If that's all they had to work with and it sounds better, I can't complain.

I just want my copy to arrive

[Ollie 1,059]

I'd check the DVD myself but I'm at work right now, on my lunch break.

So I found a clip on youtube from the DVD of the rescue, however the music is edited in the scene is edited and clip cuts right before the credits begin but the music does sound much better than the FSM release.

[steb74 53]

Yeah, there's no doubt that the Special Edition music came from a better source.

That's why I was convinced a re-release would happen at some point.

[King Mark 3,631]

Main Titles doesn't sound very stereo-ish either

[steb74 53]

I've only heard the sample of it so far and although the instruments do sound more central, there is certainly a stereo sound, at least compared to the FSM version.

I don't know if this is done by a kind of 'fake' stereo method though?

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

It's a bit contradictory:

"For this release,the 2" tape was transferred to Pro-Tools,...allowing the entire score to be presented in stereo, along with alternates and source cues..."

and then:

"Track 28: End Titles (alternate)..this track was chosen to conclude the album as it is the only surviving stereo recording of the End Title"

So are the End Titles from the score proper in stereo and I can't hear it?

Reading that i understand that the Film version of the end titles are not in stereo.

Damn...

[King Mark 3,631]

Reading that i understand that the Film version of the end titles are not in stereo.

if it's true it's be a bit misleading TPM UE-ish liner notes

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

Worse, since it comes from an specialised label...not a mass media company.

[King Mark 3,631]

Well,I'm not totally sure...someone has to check it properly

[Henry B 50]

Worse, since it comes from an specialised label...not a mass media company.

Yeah, worse? As in La La Land Records is greedier, lazier and more deceptive than Sony Music because they neglected to mention that one cue was in mono?

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

The stereo/mono thing confuses me as well. The booklet obviously implies that the Rescue/End Title film version is mono, yet it's also claimed the entire score is presented in stereo.

[King Mark 3,631]

Worse, since it comes from an specialised label...not a mass media company.

Yeah, worse? As in La La Land Records is greedier, lazier and more deceptive than Sony Music because they neglected to mention that one cue was in mono?

well,it's not exacly any cue

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

Henry, more music was missing from TPM UE than stereo cues un Poseidon, but i think, specially after that sony fiasco (and the bitching it got from the score fans), a specialised label should know better.

It's just a cue, but i didnt expect false advertising from the good labels.

[Ollie 1,059]

Okay, now we're starting to get a little silly with these accusations.

[Henry B 50]

Henry, more music was missing from TPM UE than stereo cues un Poseidon, but i think, specially after that sony fiasco (and the bitching it got from the score fans), a specialised label should know better.

It's just a cue, but i didnt expect false advertising from the good labels.

To me, the difference is that Sony was either completely clueless or acting deceitfully for the sake of profit. La La Land just forgot to mention something - unless you're implying that they deliberately lied about it to bring in more customers. And that, as Mark pointed out, is silly.

[steb74 53]

I don't have my copy yet so I haven't listened to the track in question but like I said above, if the sound of the End Titles is anything like the Main Title, it certainly isn't in mono. Now it may of been approached using a fake stereo method as the Main Title instruments do sound more central but the new version still sounds much, much wider than the previous FSM release.

[King Mark 3,631]

Yeah it does sound much wider so that may be the case.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

Henry, more music was missing from TPM UE than stereo cues un Poseidon, but i think, specially after that sony fiasco (and the bitching it got from the score fans), a specialised label should know better.

It's just a cue, but i didnt expect false advertising from the good labels.

To me, the difference is that Sony was either completely clueless or acting deceitfully for the sake of profit. La La Land just forgot to mention something - unless you're implying that they deliberately lied about it to bring in more customers. And that, as Mark pointed out, is silly.

well, im not saying that they lied to make more profit.

But deliberately forgeting the end titles are in mono in the big announcement is a little 'deliberate'. After all, the FSM was in mono, and the biggest selling point of this re-release is its stereophonic mix (how curious they 'forgot' to mention the end titles). Saying one cue is not in stereo just tainted the perfect release, i suppose that is what they wanted to avoid. But in the end...they lied to us, the specialised customers.

On a side note, this overprotection/specialised labels are always right is also a little annoying. They are miles better than the big labels, but they make errors like eveyone else and it should not be 'banned' to point them, i think. It can help them to improve, by the least.

PD: nevertheles, i bought this score because it looked like the definitive version. Now, maybe someday complete stereo masters will surface...and i will have to double dip... (thank god i was not old enough to triple dip)

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

This is good enough for me.

[Trent B 337]

I still don't think it's necessary to get up in arms over one cue. Had I done the liner notes I would have had said something like this so there'd been no confusion. "The entire score, except the film version of the "End Title" is provided in original stereo format". "The film version of the "End Titles" could not be found in the original stereo format, thus only mono is provided." That's just me though.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

At least it didn't come with a picture book as opposed to liner notes, the incomplete/edited score and a green Gene Hackman on the cover.

[King Mark 3,631]

But deliberately forgeting the end titles are in mono in the big announcement is a little 'deliberate'. After all, the FSM was in mono, and the biggest selling point of this re-release is its stereophonic mix (how curious they 'forgot' to mention the end titles). Saying one cue is not in stereo just tainted the perfect release, i suppose that is what they wanted to avoid. But in the end...they lied to us, the specialised customers.

Luke is right you know (if what I said is right and the End Title (The Rescue) is still in mono ...I basically bought this c.d. to get THAT CUE in Stereo

I still don't think it's necessary to get up in arms over one cue.

Like I said, it's the one track I really wanted in stereo so it matters

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

At least it didn't come with a picture book as opposed to liner notes, the incomplete/edited score and a green Gene Hackman on the cover.

Yeah... but the TPM UE has one of the best and crisp soundmixes in the whole score market.

And this poseidon release front cover is less than stelar too, as has been already noted.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Looks fine to me. The older cover was bad.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

It's serviceable. Amateurish.

The FSM is worse though, that's true.

[Ollie 1,059]

Looks fine to me.

Although I don't go all Rambo fanboy over cover art like most do.