Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 There's a very clear recurring theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Yeah, I know there was a score. But it's an insulting way of saying: "I don't like it".Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 The Big LebowskiI'd never seen it before. Kinda weird. Profoundly quotable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Yeah, I know there was a score. But it's an insulting way of saying: "I don't like it".I understood it as Tchaikovsky wrote the score and Mansell arranged it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 The Big LebowskiI'd never seen it before. Kinda weird. Profoundly quotable.That's great, I'm a Lebowski, you're a Lebowski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Yeah, I know there was a score. But it's an insulting way of saying: "I don't like it".I understood it as Tchaikovsky wrote the score and Mansell arranged it.That would be inaccurate. I mean yes, there are some Tchaikovsky bits adapted for a film but there is also some original music composed by Mansell. Which by comparison is not very striking. At least in the film. I have yet to hear the album though.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 He said Mansell did not offer a score, which is simply not true. If you don't like his adaptation of Tchaikovsky, then that's another thing. I loved the film's use of Tchaikovsky. But I don't think Mansell added anything of value that didn't come from Tchaikovsky. He did a good job- but strictly as an arranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Like John Williams did for Fiddler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 The Big LebowskiI'd never seen it before. Kinda weird. Profoundly quotable.That's great, I'm a Lebowski, you're a Lebowski!I was surprised when they killed that particular character, but he really had just been the butt of jokes up to that point, i.e. pretty useless. In death, he offered up every manner of jokes surrounding cremation, and allowed Sam Elliot to point out the give and take nature of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I was surprised when they killed that particular character,The Big Lebowski did not die, Donny did.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I am fully aware of who died, since it was The DUDE who recived a faceful of Donny dust. It hasn't been 12 hours yet since the end credits rolled.Apparently my attempt to use some tact regarding the reveal of the character's name, in case otherse like me have waited this long to watch it, failed. "That particular character" was meant for someone else, if I had meant The Dude, I would have just said "him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 No, The Big Lebowski is not The Dude. It's the guy in the wheelchair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Fixed. You happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 Like John Williams did for Fiddler?Williams won an Oscar, I doubt Mansell will anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 If you see who and what they are nominating these days, I think Mansell is in with a shot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 He deserves one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 If you see who and what they are nominating these days, I think Mansell is in with a shot....Your post is both truthful and sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 He deserves one.Herrmann, Goldsmith, Williams, Newman, Mansell...Right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Like John Williams did for Fiddler?Williams won an Oscar, I doubt Mansell will anytime soon. To be fair, Williams won an Oscar for arranging Fiddler in 1971. That was shortly before Jaws made him a household name and he began churning out blockbuster themes every year, but long after scoring Lost in Space, Bachelor Flat, None But the Brave, How to Steal a Million, and receiving Oscar nods for Valley of the Dolls, The Reivers, and Goodbye, Mr. Chips.Has Mansell had similar success in the past decade or so? I don't know.He deserves one.Herrmann, Goldsmith, Williams, Newman, Mansell...Right...They can't won't stop giving out awards when all the talent dries up and the industry is full of has-beens or wannabe's. Actors, films, and composers alike. Wouldn't it be nice if they did?Sorry folks, everybody sucked this year. Oscars are cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Accept that I'm right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Except I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 There's talent today, but in today's world you have to look for it. The problem sometimes with the Oscars is that they don't look for it.The only Mantsell score that I've heard in its entirety is Moon, which made wonders in the films. I've heard bits of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Except I won't.That is why you fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 Aren't the Oscars this coming Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Who cares?Hopefully next year's will actually be worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 I don't plan on watching either but was just curious and too lazy to search online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Haven't watched for years, because it's in the wee hours of the night,a nd I had to work the next day.Also, no-one to root for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 I'm just looking forward to one day when the Oscars are filled with talent, not just the nominees but the presenters as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 That might just be next year, fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Bring back David Letterman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Let go of the past, and move forward. A lot of you act like the film industry is a nuclear wasteland devoid of any talent whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 What you talkin' about, Koray? All I'm sayin' is this year the movies and scores on offer have been a bit shit, that's all.Inception, The King's Speech, Social bloody Network.Sod that for a lark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Better than 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 I don't even remember 2009's films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I don't even remember what I did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 What's this website again???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Let go of the past, and move forward. A lot of you act like the film industry is a nuclear wasteland devoid of any talent whatsoever.well when you got a bunch of people/morons praising David Fincher you know the industry is going down hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 I dunno, I just look at older Oscar clips and there was a certain wit and charm amongst the presenters, they could improvise and draw laughs.Today's presenters are so stiff and dull and cannot read a teleprompter. That's not saying there weren't bad presenters back then, the writer's strike in the late 80's / early 90's (don't remember the exact date) had plenty of groaners at one Oscar telecast when everyone seemed to be improvising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Get Ricky Gervais next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I agree that the show itself is rather lackluster, but I'm just talking about the quality of film overall. Superb stuff is still being made, you just need to look in the right places.I really really really hope they ditch the "let's read about the performances by the nominees, instead of actually showing a clip, because we all know words are more interesting than facial expressions in terms of acting." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 You mean the ego masturbation for the best actor/actress awards?What a waste of time that was and is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Let go of the past, and move forward. A lot of you act like the film industry is a nuclear wasteland devoid of any talent whatsoever.That practically how it sums it up today.Most of your films these days are reboots and any original films sorta suck for the most part. A lot of the composers chosen for film these days are mostly Media Venture guys and are rather bland...I'm not gonna be surprised if in the next 10-20 years movies completely die out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I doubt that's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 324 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Let go of the past, and move forward. A lot of you act like the film industry is a nuclear wasteland devoid of any talent whatsoever.That practically how it sums it up today.Most of your films these days are reboots and any original films sorta suck for the most part. A lot of the composers chosen for film these days are mostly Media Venture guys and are rather bland...I'm not gonna be surprised if in the next 10-20 years movies completely die out.I don't see this with anything beyond the major blockbusters.Look at films such as The Social Network, Black Swan, True Grit (actually another adaptaion of the book that a remake, but very well done), The Fighter etc.Look at last year, with films like Moon.If you look beyond the rom-coms, superhero movies (The Dark Knight was awesome, IMHO, and Iron Man was fun), you may find a lot more originality than is at first apparent.Composers such as Michael Giacchino and Bear McCreary are creating some pretty original and good material musically, so I'd watch those two.Creativity and originality are far from dead, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Exactly; and sorry Trent, but it's laughable if you think movies will ever die out. It was the only industry that actually profited during the recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I declare cinema dead as of 22:08 PM Warsaw time!It's time to find a new hobby...like post stamps, for example!Karol - who has way too many movies to choose from for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 The blockbuster sequels, prequels, interquels, remakes, and reboots are the fund raisers for the studios so they can afford to also produce the movies with original stories, which are not as widely released or known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 As long as studios can keep churning out crap like Fast And Furious and Nicholas Cage can continue to obliterate his career with junk, movies will continue to be made.The way films are made will definitely change, but movie making will never end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Saw Never Let Me Go and True Grit. Wow- two 2010 movies that actually felt alive and skillfully conceived and executed. I understand the 'Cinema is Dead' proclaimers, but there's simply not enough proof to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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