mstrox 6,661 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I think "I See Fire" is a better song, but less "Middle Earthy" than the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Less "Middle Earth-y" than Song for the Lonely Mountain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 What's wrong with Neil Finn's song? I quite liked it. Bilbo and Sharkissimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Its a bit too modern sounding for me. It's not like its assaulting my sensibilities, or anything: I like that it uses a melody from the score, and I also like some of the instrumental choices such as anvil and Cabasa. The "ya-ya-ya", while an inspired choice on paper (it does sound like Nigunim!), doesn't work quite as well as one would hope. Its also sung in a deeper voice than the other two, so you can chart a transition from men's voices in The Hobbit (fitting of a dwarf-centric story) into the female-dominated Lord of the Rings, with the lighter tenor voices of Sheeren and Boyd serving as a transient. But "I See Fire" uses Guitar in a way that feels more in line with how its used in the score, and it's such a little Song that even if offends your sensibilities in any way, it at least doesn't hit you over the head with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Less "Middle Earth-y" than Song for the Lonely Mountain? It sounds like it was written for the movie, using a melody from the movie. I See Fire sounds like any other Ed Sheeran song on the radio. Again, it's my favorite overall song of the three, just doesn't have the "feel" of a middle earth movie to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 None of them hold a candle to even the Enya song from LOTR though, let alone the Shore songs. Bilbo and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Ah, well on the level of the melody, yes, it feels more like it grows out of the score. Sure. Especially in the actual end credits where it is preceded by a lovely arrangement of the Company theme. Its a great melody! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I love the four LOTR songs, even Ol' Enya's. I like the three Hobbit songs well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I'm the same. By "four" are you counting "In Dreams" or "Use well the Days"? Another reason to get the OST right there, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 "In Dreams." I've heard "Use Well the Days" once, when I watched the DVD. Wish it had made it onto the Rarities CD that came with the book, but I'm sure Annie Lennox's costs would have skyrocketed the price. I know I can rip it off of the DVD...just haven't been bothered yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,479 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 2:51 PM, Bajak said: I see. I don't suppose there is a chance they will be reissued, or is there? What, the original OSTs? I don't think they've ever gone out of print. Quote Well and, I know I am going a bit off topic, but what about The Hobbit scores? I would like to buy them too, before they get rare. I read the normal edition has some "alternates" that the special edition doesn't have, namely for example Roast Mutton, so I suppose I have to buy everything available to have a complete collection? What about the sound resolution of the CDs? I saw there is a 24/44.1 version available for digital download. Do the discs have the same quality? CDs are 16 bit 44.1khz so if you have equipment that can actually play the 24bit versions, and your ears are good enough to tell the difference, then buying the digital download instead of the physical CD might be right for you. And yes, the regular edition of AUJ and DOS have some music on them that isn't on the SE versions of AUJ and DOS. Personally, I bought all six releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chen G. 4,011 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, Bajak said: I read the normal edition has some "alternates" that the special edition doesn't have, namely for example Roast Mutton, so I suppose I have to buy everything available to have a complete collection? There are a few alternates in the shorter versions for An Unexpected Journey, a little one for Desolation of Smaug and nothing in particular for The Battle of the Five Armies. They're not complete, but they are as close as an OST release gets. There is some additional music to be ripped from the credits and the music for the trailer of An Unexpected Journey is available for download, as well. Doug's book (which we were now told is awaiting release) is set to include a rarities CD holding some of the unreleased bits, like the diegetic appearance of the new Rivendell theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Bajak said: The limited edition. I would assume those have been OOP for years, but I have honestly never investigated because I got them all a long time ago. Have you gone to Amazon.com and seen what's there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,479 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 This will help you see where the regular-edition-exclusive music is: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT1LlmOwmhyjzo4eCX_T-5Q8ZMB4QkDQ3c-jhezQ_T-K4uOs2ehy2GaRwUsbSxIN2Uajt8pjOSrj8Wu/pubhtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mstrox 6,661 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The only one I know offhand is called Castle on the Hill, which I remember because it's also an Edward Scissorhands track. But everything I've heard on the radio from him sounds very samey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mstrox 6,661 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, SafeUnderHill said: ??? It has the same name as track 3 on the Edward Scissorhands OST. The song is otherwise unrelated, but I wouldn't have remembered the name of it otherwise. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, SafeUnderHill said: Is it? I seem to recall Doug giving very strong and conclusive clues that there was material attached to the book. As for the diegetic rendition of Valley of Imladris, It's just a guess, but since Doug said that it almost made the OST, I assume putting it on the rarities is a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmh90790 16 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I don't think there's any chance those limited editions will ever be rereleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I agree with Bloodboal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,410 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I got the LE of TTT for pretty cheap. (Compared to CR's) On 10/5/2017 at 0:16 PM, Chen G. said: "Except for the other two" You don't think it is better than "Song of the Lonely Mountain"? I mean, yeah, "Song of the Lonely Mountain" at least uses a melody from the score (which, to me, is its saving grace) but I still feel "I See Fire" is less "anachronistic", as it were. They both have the "ooooooooooh"/"whoooohoooooooohooooohoooohoooooooooooooo" shark jumping moment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Yes, but I still like them fine. "Song of the Lonely Mountain" has a great melody and some nice colors, and "I See Fire" has an appropriately solemn feel to it. Both could have been better, sure, but I still like them fine. When I watch the movies or listen to the scores in sequence, I continue to watch/listen through the credits music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chen G. 4,011 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 But that would take all the fun out of us fans creating such edits for ourselves. There's also some fun to be had with layering the different alternate takes over one another. When The End of All Things meets the Cracks of Doom, Sammath Naur, The Lord of the Rings symphony and A Composer's Journey, its a real ear bleeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mstrox 6,661 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I'm sure it varied from story to store. Unclear what the manufacturer's suggested retail price was. I recall that the regular OST cost maybe $15 and the special edition cost maybe $18-20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Arpy 4,145 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Were the limited editions the ones with faux leather covers? I have Return of the King but the disc is unplayable anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nick1Ø66 4,838 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Last time I looked at least one of my CR's (I'm pretty sure it was FOTR) has a "curved" spine. Though I honestly can't say that's simply a function of age & use or if it was that way when I bought it. And I bought them all separately as they were released, not as a boxed set. Next time I pull them out I take some pics and post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: And I bought them all separately as they were released, not as a boxed set. As far as I know, the CRs were never released together as part of one big box set, so buying them separately has always be the only possible way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,838 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Ah, OK. I might be thinking of the DVD's of the EE's then, because at one point I recall being annoyed that I didn't have the slipcase that the box set had. But yeah, it was probably the DVD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,838 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 That's the one. Now that I think about it, I believe they were offering to mail the slipcase to people who had purchased the DVD sets separately, and I got one that way. Man, was I a geek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I sent a letter to get one, and got a reply asking for $100 in order for them to send the slipcase to me. I mailed the money and never got another reply after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,838 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Send me $200 and you can have mine. Really, I'll send it. No, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Done deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 IIRC my FOTR is flat, and my TTT and ROTK are curved. But I'd have to check when I get home to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,479 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Fixed my typo. I can't recall if its ever been said why there were two different styles produced. My only guess would be they needed to produce large quantities of product in a short time, and used two different production plants, who each did it a little differently. But even that would really only explain FOTR, not why it happened again with the other ones. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,838 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Right, so here are my copies of the CR's. As you can see, only Fellowship has the curved spine. 1 hour ago, Jay said: IIRC my FOTR is flat, and my TTT and ROTK are curved. But I'd have to check when I get home to be sure. Jay, we should swap copies of Fellowship, so we each have a matching set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2017 The CR releases and the Extended Edition DVDs now only serve to remind me of the glorious long-gone time when studios would actually invest real money in products like that (I mostly mean the content, but the packaging too). Bilbo, Nick1Ø66 and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 To be honest, I would have preferred a jewel case. For me, the music was special enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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