KK 3,307 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yeah, this time, it was more like bloat with some defined purpose or direction. But a lot of pointless bloat was in there, which was disappointing. At least it was entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,377 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 How does the so-called bloating manifest itself in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Knowing Jacko it'll be too many characters and too many unnecessary (and tedious) back stories/exposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Well Tauriel wasnt needed, but I liked the character. Finally PJ gets to do what he never dared to do with Arwen.There is no real reason to have Legolas there, apart from cool Elvish fightingThe Master Of Laketowns assistant Alfrid seems a bit redundant as this point, but maybe has more to do in the next film..There IS a bunch of added exposition and back stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Remember King Kong and the Billie Elliot/black father figure shipmate subplot? Ugh. Remember the poor old guy who's starving at the beginning whom Naomi worked with on stage? Sod off. Peter, nobody gives a fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,136 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I was actually thinking of taking some time and doing my own 2-hour edit of King Kong at one point. There is a nice shorter film in there.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 There's a fab two hour adventure extravaganza in King Kong, buried beneath layers and layers of Jackson blubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 You can edit a bloat free version of The Hobbit for Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,136 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yeah, it has all the necessary ingredients - Kong himself is very well done and Naomi Watts does a great job.EDIT: Yeah that would be a challenge. Do a three hour The Hobbit film out of all three. I'm sure it will be done by someone.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I nominate Alvar to do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Oh well, now we at least know where all the fat went when he joined that slim fast programme a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 He's still eating carrots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,328 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 There's a fab two hour adventure extravaganza in King Kong, buried beneath layers and layers of Jackson blubber. I love the whole thing as it is (the EE is unnecessary). And I still say it's better than the original. Dixon Hill and Koray Savas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I love the whole thing as it is (the EE is unnecessary). And I still say it's better than the original.Sacrilege! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 In spite of the bloat, I too prefer the latest version. I wouldn't objectively call it "better" though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,377 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I thought the island part was crap. I did sorta like the city part and its liveliness during the first act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I love all the monster movie stuff. Jacko really nails the old monster movie vibe I thought. The opening is beautifully shot actually. It's good stuff, but there's way, waaaaaay too much of it. The finale was fantastic. As I said, a cluttered waste of a movie which should have had endless rewatchibility but instead spends nearly half an hour alone just on the bleedin' ship's voyage to the island. I mean, what on earth goes on in Pete's head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The Disney stuff somehow got me. When they are skating between the christmas lights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,328 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I thought the island part was crap. I did sorta like the city part and its liveliness during the first act. The island part is overindulgent, but in that it only stays true to the original, which also had a series of cool action/fx sequences without much real impact on the story. I wouldn't remove one bit from the opening act. The ice skating scene in the finale works wonders, and I think that's because the opening takes enough time to set up the characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I put that down to Newton Howard; not extended city life intros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Newton Howard really helped bring out the magic of that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I can't stand the 2005 KING KONG, but I utterly love Newton Howard's Skull Island theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I'd actually like to sit down and watch this again because it's been years and it's always on tv. Trouble is my gf can't bloody stand it, which makes it difficult, at 3hrs. I can't stand the 2005 KING KONG, but I utterly love Newton Howard's Skull Island theme.Yes. I didn't know he had that style in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Strange. King Kong is the big special effects film that women tend to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 There are three movies I've apologized to my date for dragging her to see. Pj's King Kong is one. District 9 is another. The Good Shepherd is the third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The Good Shepherd is the third.Now that's a terrific film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Oh please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 De Niro should direct more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Strange. King Kong is the big special effects film that women tend to like.Try Armageddon instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Watch Armageddon with a babe, and Youreageddon in her pants! Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,136 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Titanic and Avatar work.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Strange. King Kong is the big special effects film that women tend to like.Try Armageddon instead.Women tend to love the Aerosmith song, I find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Watch Armageddon with a babe, and Youreageddon in her pants!Save that pun for Def Leppard, they do it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,328 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Newton Howard really helped bring out the magic of that scene. He certainly did, but that wouldn't have stopped it from being ridiculous if it hadn't been set up properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Of course, but it was only set up from the moment that Ann met a great big massive gorilla, Marion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Marian Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Wellllll, when he makes such girlish remarks I'm bound to go all freudian aren't I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 We've all had our Freudian slits....slips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,377 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Jesus Christ Superstar (1973):Indeed, the film with the beautiful photography by Douglas Slocombe (Raiders Of The Lost Ark), looks fantastic on Blu-ray.The great thing about the movie, besides the original Judas perspective and the portrayal of a human Christ, is the feeling of improvisation. It truly feels as if Norman Jewison and his choreographer allowed themselves to be inspired by their amazing surroundings. Very much like the opening scene of the film, it's like a bunch of singers and dancers were dropped amidst the sand, the canyons, the ruins and that these elements played an important part in the final outcome of every scene. To me, this is a relief, because nowadays most movies are made (finished) before they actually start filming. Not so with this film, here they made the film during the shooting, or at least, that's what I get from it. Jesus Christ Superstar is the best Jesus film after Scorsese's The Last Temptation Of Christ. One would almost start to believe. 8/10Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Almost.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,527 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Just watched The Eiger Sanction, a movie with more gender and sexual stereotypes than a James Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 That good? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 May i introduce...THE PROFESSOR Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,527 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Just watched The Eiger Sanction, a movie with more gender and sexual stereotypes than a James Bond.... sorry, with more stereotypes than all the James Bond movies reunited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,136 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Jesus Christ Superstar (1973):Indeed, the film with the beautiful photography by Douglas Slocombe (Raiders Of The Lost Ark), looks fantastic on Blu-ray.The great thing about the movie, besides the original Judas perspective and the portrayal of a human Christ, is the feeling of improvisation. It truly feels as if Norman Jewison and his choreographer allowed themselves to be inspired by their amazing surroundings. Very much like the opening scene of the film, it's like a bunch of singers and dancers were dropped amidst the sand, the canyons, the ruins and that these elements played an important part in the final outcome of every scene. To me, this is a relief, because nowadays most movies are made (finished) before they actually start filming. Not so with this film, here they made the film during the shooting, or at least, that's what I get from it. Jesus Christ Superstar is the best Jesus film after Scorsese's The Last Temptation Of Christ. One would almost start to believe. 8/10AlexIt's all well and nice, Alex. But... what does it have to do with The Hobbit?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,281 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 He clearly posted in the wrong forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Actually he's inspired me to go buy the film too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I can't stand the songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,377 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Actually he's inspired me to go buy the film too.Make sure you have the 40th Anniversary Edition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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