Augie 1 Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 I guess so, too, publicist. Maybe he was late on board, but he had still some time todo it. And Barry, he quit so often...Williams, perhaps, saw his chance for writing some Eastern music, and took it. He alsowas very keen to to do "Geisha", 8 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,275 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It was Williams who first brought Geisha to Spielberg attention -- as the story goes, after falling in love with the novel, he bought two more copies and gave one to Spielberg, sending the other one to Ma, with a note that maybe they one day could collaborate in a film version. Spielberg was reported as interested in directing the film version early on, which would make Williams the only possible choice for composing the score.At some point Spielberg moved to other ideas and the directing was offered to Marshall and we all know that Williams asked the director to write the score.So, Williams was thinking of Geisha for as long as the book originally came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 Which was published in 1997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,275 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 You're right... For some reason I was thinking of '99... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 A true scholar!Sheet Music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Seven Years in Tibet was one of my first Williams scores, and it always gets to me. There is true power behind the majesty of Williams melodramatic themes. And he captures the feeling of the film so well. It is truly one of his best dramatic efforts.A shame its so underrated nowadays, to the extent that its almost forgotten amongst most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 There's nothing quite like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittBash 283 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 ]I actually prefer the US release with narration. But then again, the three Frank McCourt biographical novels are my all time favorites. "Angela's Ashes" in particularly, I lost count the number of times I've read it.Well loving the books that much would certainly negate the narration getting the way. Too bad I don't love the books cause that narration always stops me cold when I try to listen to the album. Almost like Brad pitt on the cover of 7YIT almost stops me from ever playing that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,275 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Brad Pitt face on the cover does have that effect But I do enjoy music with text. Love Copland's "Lincoln Portrait" and Williams' original version of "American Journey", as broadcasted in December 31, 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 I agree! He also sports this stupid haircut in the film; made it look like a Farrelly movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 So, Williams was thinking of Geisha for as long as the book originally came out.Yes. I read that somewhere. He always wanted to score it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Seven years in Tibet album goes to the same category as Patriot; never listened those trough but love the first track.But what a main title those have, I give them a listen actually quite often, awesome pieces of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 @MaurizioWhy not check the John Barry Filmnotgraphy for some basic information.http://www.johnbarry...lmnotgraphy.phpWell, it says there "he had conversations with the director but never signed"...So it wasn't a replacement. Maybe the director wanted John Barry, but he never got him!And I doubt Barry wrote anything for this movie (except maybe play around with some ideas in his head). . . and why would he? He didn't sign on after all."Angela's Ashes" would make another hot topic. I always see it as a Noughties movie,as it came out very late in Europe, and I didn't own the cd before January 2001.Masterpiece. It was always one of my favorite moody Williams scores. Ii only grewon me.There are some wonderful underrated JW scores from the nineties!Seven Years in Tibet, Sabrina, Nixon, Angela's Ashes, Sleepers, Stepmom, Amistad...Rosewood is the only score I never got into. In fact, I've listened to this only once so far, I think. I wonder what everybody thinks of it.A shame its so underrated nowadays, to the extent that its almost forgotten amongst most.I don't think this score is forgotten, certainly not amongst us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Rosewood is very catchy. Give it another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,275 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Rosewood is the only score I never got into. In fact, I've listened to this only once so far, I think. I wonder what everybody thinks of it.I love "Rosewood". I remember very well getting it, back in early '97, during a trip. I instantly put it on my Discman and fell in love for this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Let's start a new Rosewood thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Let's not forget Elegy For Cello And Orchestra, which is a beautiful and great expansion of Regaining a Son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Let's not forget Elegy For Cello And Orchestra, which is a beautiful and great expansion of Regaining a Son.Indeed! By the way, has the main track "Seven Years in Tibet" ever been re-recorded? Either by JW or somebody else? Anybody know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I'm ashamed to admit that I have never listened to this score. This needs to be rectified ASAP. I've picked it up several times in the store to purchase but for some reason always put it back.As for Arnold and The Patriot, I thought he was busy with "The World is Not Enough" at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 And yes some of Williams' most lyrical, haunting and perhaps most personal musical expression comes in these scores, often not shouted on the top of the lungs by the symphony orchestra but sung out only by a handfull of instruments or just the soloist.I do not think that some of his concerto material found into these scores by mistake. Something in these films inspired him in the same way than writing a concerto might.Agreed!This main theme probably ranks among the best of Williams's career! I put it on the same level as "Hymn to the Fallen" and (almost) "Theme from Schindler's List." There is something very deep and meaningful here, something profound and even existential. It's as if JW (through the orchestra and the cellist) is pondering the meaning of life in a slightly melancholic, passionate way...By the way, the bridge (from 2:04 onwards) is so gorgeous, it elevates the piece to a whole another level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 I compared the first and the last track once again.The last one (reprise) which runs a few seconds longer is either a slightly different alternate take in a way that it is almost not noticeable. Or the same as the first track, but, in that case, the first track was mixed differently.It always seems to me that the first track beats the pants off the last track - it sounds richer, more emotional, more effective. The last track sounds weaker, although you would need a sound engineer to compare them, scientifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,276 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 So, I was re-watching the movie yesterday, and its problems remain and the score is, for the most part, sandly underused. But there are quite a few tracks that are not present on cd (and vice versa). I was specially taken by this sweeping of statement of the Tibet/Dalai Lama themehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2QKIX39W0#t=33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar 77 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Cue list:Seven Years in Tibet (1997) - John WilliamsOrchestrated by John Neufeld1m3 Leaving Ingrid (Cue A)1m3 (Insert) Leaving Ingrid (old Cue A)1m3A The Rescue of Peter1m41m5 Young Dali Lama (Cue B)1m7 Meeting the Sherpa3m1 Transported to Prison3m2 Alone In Prison3m4 The Barbed Wire Scene (Cue C)3m6A The Escape3m7-Long The Second Escape3m11 Stealing Food5m2 Sixty-Eight Kilometers5m5 Heinrich's Slow Growth (Cue E)5m5A Escaping the Bandits5m6 Horsemeat and Rescue7m1AX The Capitol City7m3 Western Clothes7m5 Peter and Pema9m1 Thinking by the Water9m3 Meeting the Dali11m4 Prophetic Dream11m9A The Generals Enter11m10 Praying Through A Telescope13m1 Prepraring the Defense13m2 The Tibetan Defeat13m3 The Chinese Takeover13m11 The Dali Lama's Investiture15m2 Regaining A Son (new)15m3 End CreditThe Child of Tibetsource: Film Cue Database Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,735 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Fantastic! Thank you for posting this Oskar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 We need a complete version of this pronto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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