Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Is Lee's the one with Norton or Bana? I recall enjoying the former. Whichever one had the Elfman score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I don't call it "dud", I call it a challenge. And in my opinion, Lee made an interesting comic book movie, one for adults.It really isn't. Let me phrase it differently: having Shymalayan doing his own take on comic book movies with UNBREAKABLE is a good thing (even if it just was for the money landslide from SIXTH SENSE), having Lee doing a movie with nagging questions about human nature AND mutated poodles is decidedly less of a good thing. It's a compromise and not a very successful one and that's not only due to teenaged louts and brutes booing the picture. I'd rather have a craftsman like, say, Richard Donner doing such a picture than a more cerebral artist like Lee who doesn't really know or want to stage the action. And without the adrenaline you don't really have a HULK movie.Is Lee's the one with Norton or Bana? I recall enjoying the former. Whichever one had the Elfman score.Bana, naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 They've run together in my mind I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I don't call it "dud", I call it a challenge. And in my opinion, Lee made an interesting comic book movie, one for adults. It really isn't. Let me phrase it differently: having Shymalayan doing his own take on comic book movies with UNBREAKABLE is a good thing (even if it just was for the money landslide from SIXTH SENSE), having Lee doing a movie with nagging questions about human nature AND mutated poodles is decidedly less of a good thing. It's a compromise and not a very successful one and that's not only due to teenaged louts and brutes booing the picture. I'd rather have a craftsman like, say, Richard Donner doing such a picture than a more cerebral artist like Lee who doesn't really know or want to stage the action. And without the adrenaline you don't really have a HULK movie. It may not be a Hulk movie that people (including you) expected but Lee turned it into a Hulk movie that he wanted to see. The angle he used, the emotion that he gave the movie are things that worked for me. It's one of the few comic book movies where I got the feeling that there's more to it than meets the eye and it dealt with psychological themes that go over the head of the average 14-year-old. You make it sound as if your opinion is consensus. It's not. It's only the consensus of the class room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 AlexCremers smash!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Read this article by our very own Ted Pigeon (who sadly stopped posting here): http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/the-hulk-that-never-happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 It may not be a Hulk movie that people (including you) expected but Lee turned it into a Hulk movie that he wanted to see. The angle he used, the emotion that he gave the movie are things that worked for me. It's one of the few comic book movies where I got the feeling that there's more to it than meets the eye and it dealt with psychological themes that go over the head of the average 14-year-old. You make it sound as if your opinion is consensus. It's not. It's only the consensus of the class room.A 150-million Dollar movie shouldn't be made for the dubious reason that only Ang Lee and Alex Cremers are going to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Ang Lee, Alexcremers, Ted Pigeon, Romao, Steef, ...Hulk's budget was $137 million and it made $245 million worldwide. Sure, it could've been more I always seem to have a soft spot for movies that aren't for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 That's quite a list.I should watch Hulk again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Are you sure? One of the film's biggest adversaries is Joey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I think you are confusing the Norton and Bana version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 They say it was, interestingly, very close to a lot of the source material. (I haven't read Hulk in my life so I don't know.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I think you are confusing the Norton and Bana version. Joey hates Hulk almost as much as he hates Blade Runner or Watchmen. He thinks they are bad pieces of entertainment, and from his point of view, he's right. That doesn't mean they are bad movies. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Or Man Of Steef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I feel caught between two sides here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Man Of Steel is different. Snyder compromised himself quite a bit when he made Man Of Steel, not so with Watchmen.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I know that, and you know that. but Joe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 You got me there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 haters dont generally take the time to distinguish between what they hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I do ...Although it must be said that I don't hate MOS, it just didn't satisfy me all that much. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I dont hate it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 It's better than Prometheus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,474 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Everything's better than Prometheus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Prometheus is almost on the same level of badness as the Prequels. Though not quite because Scott, even when he doesnt seem to give a shit, is a better director then the modern day Lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmm 91 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I like Hulk too. But that isn't the type of movie Marvel is making here. Just pick up any copy of Avengers comic to see what it's about. All those over the top in final acts originate from tgat. All tgose big heroic splah oages with everything happening at once.KarolDon't get me wrong, I'm definitely not expecting Avengers to be like Lee's Hulk. I'm merely saying that I like Hulk and that most others don't, so don't read too much into my review. That said I went in expecting just a whole lot of fun and the movie just didn't deliver that for me. And I see the mere mention of Lee's Hulk has fired up some heated debate. Always nice to see a movie do that 10 years after its release. Most think TDK was the first serious comic book movie but Hulk did it a few years earlier, and probably did it better too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'm not a fan of TDK these days, even though I really enjoyed it when I saw it at the cinema. I was 16. By the time the next one was released I didn't really care anymore.My favourite Batman is probably Batman Returns, but oh boy it does have an odd pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I saw Watchmen and Batman Begins on the same day once, and that was probably a mistake. The Nolan film suddenly felt so safe and all-pleasing in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 As I said before, I like BB. Very rewatchable, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I like it too, but it's not the film many say it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Maybe that's true for TDK as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I havent watched either in a while. But I never thought they were greater then the sum of their parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Prometheus is almost on the same level of badness as the Prequels. Though not quite because Scott, even when he doesnt seem to give a shit, is a better director then the modern day Lucas.I felt the film was well directed, but poorly and confusingly written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,048 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Scott can direct those things in his sleep, his ability to do that shouldn't be question. All his films (most?) are well directed. It's the content I'm worried about.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,362 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Well, to me it felt like he was sleeping so please define "well directed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I saw Prometheus before I ever saw any of the Alien movies (I've since seen the first two of them) and loved it. Maybe the first Ridley Scott movie since Gladiator that I enjoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Scott can direct those things in his sleep, his ability to do that shouldn't be question. All his films (most?) are well directed. It's the content I'm worried about.KarolDoes "well directed" include caring about the script being good, like his cinematography and special effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,474 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Prometheus is almost on the same level of badness as the Prequels. Though not quite because Scott, even when he doesnt seem to give a shit, is a better director then the modern day Lucas.I felt the film was well directed, but poorly and confusingly written.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Not well directed. But with a certain basic competence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 As in it was nicely shot and carefully staged. But he must have thought the script was good enough to shoot it because he'd worked on the project for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,474 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,474 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Age Of Ultron’s Blu-ray release will include an extended cut of the filmMaybe using some of the currently unused Elfman cuts? Maybe featuring an appearance by Loki? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 As long as it doesn't include more action... This is the last thing this movie needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 More action! We need Thor against Cap! Natasha against the Scarlett Witch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I want Sif vs Agent Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Starlord vs. Ant Man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,474 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 This is neat!http://comicsalliance.com/avengers-2-characters-comics/I hadn't realized they purposely made that poster using existing poses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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