Thor 7,518 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I think I tried COMMUNITY for 5-6 episodes, but I didn't really get it, so I jumped ship. I mostly tried it out because I'm a huge Chevy Chase fan. Maybe I'll try again later on. I had the same issues with ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, which I saw from start to finish just last year. I managed to get through it all, but there was never this desire to immediately return to the "universe", which I have for the best shows. That being said, I agree with the 'pilot' issue previously mentioned. I usually set a minimum of some 4-5 episodes before I pass. But I'm also a strong believer in first impressions. There has to be SOMETHING there that's worth pursuing. My main usage for sit-coms is 'dinner company', but if it's a smart show -- like LOUIE or SILICON VALLEY or whatever -- I might watch it like I do serious shows. Thankfully, we won't have this problem with TWIN PEAKS. Wow, that was a rambling post, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: It's a rare comedy that's amazing right from episode 1. Community is a relatively recent show that I think fits the bill. First 3 seasons are classic. I thought its heyday lasted 3 episodes. Really funny at first, and then it absolutely nosedived after that. It was really strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Community isn't as great as everyone thinks it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Yes it is! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, mstrox said: Yes it is! Jason is clearly streets behind. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Community was a fine show I mostly enjoyed, but it was not consistently great. It had a lot of weak patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I've yet to see a comedy show that is consistently great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Arrested Development truly was consistently great for its original 3 seasons (just pretend the season 4 from years later doesn't exist). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: Community was a fine show I mostly enjoyed, but it was not consistently great. It had a lot of weak patches. I found it pretty consistent, except for the gas leak season. 1 hour ago, Jay said: Arrested Development truly was consistently great for its original 3 seasons (just pretend the season 4 from years later doesn't exist). I'd modify this to exclude the third season - a lot of it hit, but I didn't find the Wee Britain/Mr. F stuff very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, mstrox said: I'd modify this to exclude the third season - a lot of it hit, but I didn't find the Wee Britain/Mr. F stuff very good. Are you serious? That's my favorite storyline in the entire show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 All of my favorite stuff from the show falls in the first season, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 The season 2 opener is pure gold though. As is the resolution of the Laura Palmer story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: Arrested Development truly was consistently great for its original 3 seasons (just pretend the season 4 from years later doesn't exist). I'd say that about Curb apart from its last season. I'm Alan Partridge doesn't suffer during its run though. Neither does The Office. They have the number two in common as a sweet spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, mstrox said: All of my favorite stuff from the show falls in the first season, I'd say. 9 minutes ago, Stefancos said: The season 2 opener is pure gold though. As is the resolution of the Laura Palmer story mstrox was talking about Arrested Development, not Twin Peaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 This is the Twin Peaks thread, so why the hell he's doing that I can't fathom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He was responding to the post directly before his, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 That's on the previous page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: The season 2 opener is pure gold though. As is the resolution of the Laura Palmer story Honestly, I rate Season 2 of Twin Peaks much more highly than most people. I love the stuff you mentioned, as well as the supernatural/Black Lodge plot that builds until the end of the season. I liked Windom Earle and his game. The bits I don't like are subplots featuring minor characters for the most part (all of the men falling for Lana Milford, Nadine going back to high school). The season opener, the few episodes leading up to the killer's reveal and capture, and the finale are all amazing. Barnald 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 There are far too many parts of season 2 that are absolute dead weight. But plenty of good stuff too. Ben Horne's mental breakdown is comedy gold. Barnald 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, mstrox said: The bits I don't like are subplots featuring minor characters for the most part (all of the men falling for Lana Milford, Nadine going back to high school). And James... Oh, my, James... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 *shudder* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 James is easily the worst character of the show. But still, oddly, I love this scene: It's jus so absolutely Twin Peaks, I can't put my finger on it. With all the cheese and corniness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 James' season 2 story line involving leaving town and getting hooked up with that femme fatale was the absolute low point of the show. Worse than Josie or Billy Zane rocking up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I could cope with the Batman criminal mastermind, I mean Windom Earle, in season 2, and thoroughly enjoy the lot of it. But James' subplot on top is just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 The Windom Earle stuff was corny as fuck, but hugely entertaining. The James stuff was the nadir. Where TV goes to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, mstrox said: Honestly, I rate Season 2 of Twin Peaks much more highly than most people. I'm with you. I think I even like the show more, the further out it gets. The first season is gold, don't get me wrong, but I really like when it goes all crazy and absurd in the second season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Yes, I think we can all agree that's as low as the series went. And it was totally meaningless to the bigger picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 10/18/2016 at 2:53 PM, mstrox said: Mark Frost's book came out today too https://www.amazon.com/Secret-History-Twin-Peaks/dp/B01KFX635C/ref=sr_tnr_p_1_7538393011_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476808634&sr=8-1&keywords=secret+history+of+twin+peaks I bought the eBook and I read over maybe 5% of it on breaks today. At this point it's only establishing minor Twin Peaks mythology points throughout history, but I'm excited to get into whatever the portion of it is that deals with the characters we know. BTW, I finished reading this last month. It's...not the best read. Most of the book takes place from the 1800s through the 1970s and a lot of it focuses on UFO type phenomena and government cover-ups. There are a few ethereal woods things that happen that are more mystical in nature, and those interested me. The biggest characters in the book are characters that are minor in the show (i.e. Doug Milford, aka the Mayor's brother) or siblings/relatives of characters in the book. You get a little background into some of the "major families" of Twin Peaks - the Packards, the Martells, the Milfords, the Jennings, the Hurleys, the Briggs, the Jacobys etc etc. It might be more interesting POST-season-3 just to see why the seemingly non-Twin-Peaksy things are relevant. The narrator of the book is most certainly a new series character - "Agent T.P." throughout the book, who signs off at the end as Spoiler "Agent Tamara Preston" The best part of the book were the last, like, two pages, which take place shortly after the end of S2 and which got me excited for S3. Book spoilers ahead: Spoiler The book is written as an FBI agent;s dissection of a discovered tome, assigned by Gordon Cole. The strange tome is written by a series of "archivists" throughout history - Doug Milford being the major one through the 20th century, transferred duty to Major Briggs late in the book. The last two pages involve Briggs returning from his abduction (towards the end of S2) and looking for Cooper, seeing Cooper and realizing that something is seriously amiss, "protocols are in place. I must act quickly. Mayday." And then the reviewing agent saying that further records about both Briggs and Cooper are above her security clearance. The end, basically. I also noticed a continuity error involving Norma's parentage (we met her mother in season 2, yet the book notes that Norma's mom died in the 1980s). Frost has dropped hints that there will be a second part following Season 3, so we'll see how much juicy stuff there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Sounds like a cash grab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 It's written by Mark Frost, who cowrote the whole S3 before the book was written, so I'm tempted to think there's a plan in place for much of the information. It certainly was not the book I wanted/hoped for. Oh, and Spoiler Sherriff Truman has a brother who used to be a Bookhouse Boy, Franklin Truman - may actually be the character that Robert Forster is playing, not a recasting of Harry Truman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 15 hours ago, mstrox said: I also noticed a continuity error involving Norma's parentage (we met her mother in season 2, yet the book notes that Norma's mom died in the 1980s). It was not a continuity error. DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 hours ago, BloodBoal said: It was not a continuity error. DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!! That's something that crossed my mind, but it seems like a really minor thing to make twisty: "remember that food critic that visited Twin Peaks during season 2 that happened to be Norma's mom? SWERVE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 21 hours ago, Thor said: I'm with you. I think I even like the show more, the further out it gets. The first season is gold, don't get me wrong, but I really like when it goes all crazy and absurd in the second season. It's definitely more crazy but at one point during the season the direction is really getting inferior. There's a dip in the middle and then it gets better again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Season 3 premieres Sunday May 21st with a 2 hour episode, and will be followed by 16 more 1 hour episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 9:49 AM, BloodBoal said: I've yet to see a comedy show that is consistently great. Home Movies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 David Lynch gives maddening surprise press conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jay said: David Lynch gives maddening surprise press conference He, he....classic Lynch responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 16 hours ago, Jay said: Season 3 premieres Sunday May 21st with a 2 hour episode, and will be followed by 16 more 1 hour episodes. A 2 hour ep is just what's needed to slowly sink back into that world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jay said: David Lynch gives maddening surprise press conference Wow. It's so maddening it makes me want to punch him in the face... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, Stefancos said: A 2 hour ep is just what's needed to slowly sink back into that world. Every season starts with a 2 hour episode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Yes, I know. Though Jason, if you wanna be especially pedantic, you could mention the two season openers actually last just over 90 minutes each.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 I still can't quite grasp that 2017 is bringing us new Star Wars music by JW and new Twin Peaks music by Bandalamenti, my two favorite musical universes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 No love for the Care Bears universe? That's a great universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 On 10/01/2017 at 4:37 PM, Romão said: I still can't quite grasp that 2017 is bringing us new Star Wars music by JW and new Twin Peaks music by Bandalamenti, my two favorite musical universes Now, just a damn minute! Its not possible to have multiple universes. Is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 Jay, I posted the very same thing just two posts above yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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