BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Assistant to Felix Erskine: WILLIAM ROSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm digging the little hottie in the movie too.BB-8? Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Involvement with the production of this teaser is confirmed by Mr. Erskine himself on his Facebook page:https://www.facebook.com/felix.erskine?fref=ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If anything sets the overall tone in this trailer, it's the music.Some thoughts:0:06 - Interesting EMPIRE STRIKES BACK-like "gloomy" celesta figure.You are probably thinking of "Clash of Lightsabers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Assistant to Felix Erskine: WILLIAM ROSS. William Ross' assistance orchestrated by: Conrad PopeWilliams is out of ideas confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm confused. Was Williams not involved, then... aside from the rehash material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm sure he did nothing more than adding some percussion here and there, sort of like Chris Tilton on STAR TREK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm confused. Was Williams not involved, then... aside from the rehash material?Williams' involvement was probably limited to his old and feeble hand, gently but firmly guided by Felix Erskine, signing off on allowing this newcomer to take over his material, with Kathleen Kennedy reassuring him."It's ok John, this nice man is going to give you some help!" nightscape94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 John: "(...) and then J.J. said "Don't worry, John, we'll have this promising new composer take care of the rest of the score and the trailer cues!" Boy, saved me some work!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "Now I can focus on writing my new concerto for piccolo, dedicated to JWFan's King Mark, a poster that I have a very deep respect and admiration for. In fact, it's the first time that I've actually asked someone to let me compose a piece for them!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "It'll feature my first-ever love theme! How's that?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The concerto will be titled, "Footpad" in honor of King Cat, sources close to Maestro say, "It'll be a spiritual successor to Heartwood." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "Now I can focus on writing my new concerto for piccolo, dedicated to JWFan's King Mark, a poster that I have a very deep respect and admiration for. In fact, it's the first time that I've actually asked someone to let me compose a piece for them!"I'd love to play that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The concerto will be titled, "Footpad" in honor of King Cat, sources close to Maestro say, "It'll be a spiritual successor to Heartwood." SWEET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Do android cats write film music with digital manuscript score pads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 So getting back to seriousness once more. Assuming the trailer music is by Johnny-Dubs...It's very..."broad stroke" music for him! The section that starts once we see Vader's Helmet is eerily devoid of ornamentation and a billion twisty notes leading you from chord to chord! To get back to facetiousness...is he going the way of Jerry Goldsmith? Less is more in old age? Signs of health problems? WHAT COULD IT MEAN?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Involvement with the production of this teaser is confirmed by Mr. Erskine himself on his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/felix.erskine?fref=ts FYI, you can link directly to specific Facebook posts https://www.facebook.com/felix.erskine/posts/10155417665820176 Just click the part that tells you how long ago it was posted to get the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Other thoughts:LONE HIGH PIANO IN STAR WARS?! (0:32) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 After the low drone-like double bass ostinato in TINTIN, this doesn't come unexpected.Williams is slowly exploring RCP territory. The end is near! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 And the Rambo/Pirates of the Caribbean knock off that was "No Man's Land!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 So getting back to seriousness once more. Assuming the trailer music is by Johnny-Dubs...It's very..."broad stroke" music for him! The section that starts once we see Vader's Helmet is eerily devoid of ornamentation and a billion twisty notes leading you from chord to chord! To get back to facetiousness...is he going the way of Jerry Goldsmith? Less is more in old age? Signs of health problems? WHAT COULD IT MEAN?! I for one appreciate this less adorned approach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Oh...I completely agree. But assuming it's Williams writing that, what is it about old age that makes composers so...SPARTAN!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Well, he's writing music for a relatively short teaser, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Oh...I completely agree. But assuming it's Williams writing that, what is it about old age that makes composers so...SPARTAN!? Duller minds, arthritis, general malaise. Impending death will make minimalists of us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Other thoughts:LONE HIGH PIANO IN STAR WARS?! (0:32) The beginning of Jedi Master Revealed from ESB, is that a piano or a glockenspiel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Oh...I completely agree. But assuming it's Williams writing that, what is it about old age that makes composers so...SPARTAN!? Duller minds, arthritis, general malaise. Impending death will make minimalists of us all.All early onset in the case of Hans Zimmer, I presume? Other thoughts:LONE HIGH PIANO IN STAR WARS?! (0:32) The beginning of Jedi Master Revealed from ESB, is that a piano or a glockenspiel?I'm not sure about the ESB track. It doesn't sound like a piano to me, doesn't have that piano woody click sound to it that you get on the high-end. But in the trailer, it's a piano, paired with some kind of low-end instrument to give that submarine/sonar-like effect. A curiously modern effect. Makes me wonder if it's added after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Oh...I completely agree. But assuming it's Williams writing that, what is it about old age that makes composers so...SPARTAN!? Duller minds, arthritis, general malaise. Impending death will make minimalists of us all.All early onset in the case of Hans Zimmer, I presume? Other thoughts:LONE HIGH PIANO IN STAR WARS?! (0:32) The beginning of Jedi Master Revealed from ESB, is that a piano or a glockenspiel?I'm not sure about the ESB track. It doesn't sound like a piano to me, doesn't have that piano woody click sound to it that you get on the high-end. But in the trailer, it's a piano, paired with some kind of low-end instrument to give that submarine/sonar-like effect. A curiously modern effect. Makes me wonder if it's added after. Zimmer, like me, is merely more keenly aware of our ultimate fate than most!The ESB cue starts with celesta chords. In the trailer it's a piano and bass drum - a very deep, and yes, possibly added one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Involvement with the production of this teaser is confirmed by Mr. Erskine himself on his Facebook page:https://www.facebook.com/felix.erskine?fref=tsCan someone ask him about his involvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't think Williams is consciously writing in a more modern style - he may subconsciously adapt himself to the current aesthetics, but I think he's more focused on exploring his own world of compositional ideas, and what you're hearing might just happen to be part of that world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Here is the new teaser with the vocals removed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9UEQ4Z1BxUHkxdHc/view?usp=sharing Thank you very much for this! Anyone else find it kinda funny that it ends with a similar edit to the new Lucasfilm logo music on the digital releases of the films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Perhaps they recorded for a future trailer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Involvement with the production of this teaser is confirmed by Mr. Erskine himself on his Facebook page:https://www.facebook.com/felix.erskine?fref=tsCan someone ask him about his involvement?I did. He hasn't replied yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Music is fantastic! Worked great in the teaser.Involvement with the production of this teaser is confirmed by Mr. Erskine himself on his Facebook page:https://www.facebook.com/felix.erskine?fref=tsCan someone ask him about his involvement?I did. He hasn't replied yet.I'm pretty sure it's more of a "processing" role than any actual writing. If you listen carefully, you'll hear a couple of big "trailer-booms", EPIC synth drums, and small details that "modernize" the music to fit the trailer. For instance, if you go by Fal's vid, that downward gliss followed by that heavy reverb piano note is kind of unlike Williams, so that might be something this guy added to the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The music for this teaser reminds of the rumors regarding the music for the first teaser before it came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Yeah, I remember the descriptions mentioning the Force Theme. Perhaps the music for both teasers was recorded simultaneously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Unless they molded the new teaser around the music, that's highly unlikely.Disney should sell these trailer cues on iTunes for $1.29 each. But they are not smart enough to ever do that.I was thinking the exact same thing.Now that I think of it, I really, really hope the album will present a large chunk of the score. I don't want another case of tons of missing material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Unless they molded the new teaser around the music, that's highly unlikely. How do we know the teasers weren't cut in advance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 That trailer music is awesome - thanks Faleel for the clean version Man, is it really too much to ask to be able to buy these cues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Music is fantastic! Worked great in the teaser.Involvement with the production of this teaser is confirmed by Mr. Erskine himself on his Facebook page:https://www.facebook.com/felix.erskine?fref=tsCan someone ask him about his involvement?I did. He hasn't replied yet.I'm pretty sure it's more of a "processing" role than any actual writing. If you listen carefully, you'll hear a couple of big "trailer-booms", EPIC synth drums, and small details that "modernize" the music to fit the trailer. For instance, if you go by Fal's vid, that downward gliss followed by that heavy reverb piano note is kind of unlike Williams, so that might be something this guy added to the music.It sounds to me like he remixed previous John Williams tracks and added some extra material (with nothing new by Williams). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I hope the 'new material' is Williams. It's fucking amazing. Love that Lydian supertonic over the tonic pedal. Reminds me of Elfman's HULK Theme (same key I think).If anything sets the overall tone in this trailer, it's the music.Some thoughts:0:06 - Interesting EMPIRE STRIKES BACK-like "gloomy" celesta figure.You are probably thinking of "Clash of Lightsabers".Yes, it's a similar chromatic cluster. Also reminds me of the moment when the emperor's hologram appears in ESB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd be surprised if it wasn't. It's the superimposed !!!!!EPIC!!! synth percussion that makes it sound as if it's otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I hope the 'new material' is Williams. It's fucking amazing. Love that Lydian supertonic over the tonic pedal. Reminds me of Elfman's HULK Theme (same key I think).The part that accompanied Vader's helmet sounded like Williams but the second part did not (after the statement of the force theme). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Love that Lydian supertonic over the tonic pedal.Yes! Best part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd be surprised if it wasn't. It's the superimposed !!!!!EPIC!!! synth percussion that makes it sound as if it's otherwise. I'd actually like it if Williams wrote something like that into the score. It worked for THE PATRIOT. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/m86mrCiZU5A?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd be surprised if it wasn't. It's the superimposed !!!!!EPIC!!! synth percussion that makes it sound as if it's otherwise.I'd actually like it if Williams wrote something like that into the score. It worked for THE PATRIOT.<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/m86mrCiZU5A?rel=0"frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>Great track! This Felix guy also claims to have done the music for the first teaser, which was confirmed by the Star Wars twitter to have been done by Williams. Insanely existed to have helped shape the music for Star Wars Ep VII for the last 11 weeks !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 He's not fake - just a little too excited regarding his ... contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 He talks about how they chose his "shape". And isn't 11 weeks a little long to be working on an 88 second trailer cue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 From what I understand out of his replies to my question regarding his role in the musical design of both teasers, he designed the synthesizer sound doubling the french horns in the first teaser and designed the synthesized percussion overlays in the second teaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 From what I understand out of his replies to my question regarding his role in the musical design of both teasers, he designed the synthesizer sound doubling the french horns in the first teaser and designed the synthesized percussion overlays in the second teaser.Okay, that's a relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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