Damien F 1,742 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 For ET, Is there anything on the 1996 release that isn't on the 2002 release, or anything that the 1996 release does better than the 2002 release?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 For starters, sound quality is definitive on the 1996 release.Exclusive to the 1996 CD are alternate versions of Searching for E.T., unedited E.T. is Alive! and alternate End Credits.Exclusive to the 2002 CD are the Main Title, Meeting E.T., E.T.'s New Home, Searching for E.T. film version and End Credits film version.But if you don't have the original album, you need that as well, along with the LaserDisc isolated score and the Michael Jackson record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 For starters, sound quality is definitive on the 1996 release. Not as good as on the original album as far as I recall (which would mean it's not definitive), but much better than on the 2002 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Basically, you need all the albums.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 For ET, Is there anything on the 1996 release that isn't on the 2002 release, or anything that the 1996 release does better than the 2002 release?Thanks.This should tell you everything you need to knowhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AjiRtgP4_o4TdG12WENnUDd3U183cUZHZmtOV1otQUE&output=html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Great, thanks for the replies guys. That spreadsheet looks very useful.I only ever had the 2002 release but it was damaged during a house move a few weeks ago.I've just purchased the 2002 and 1996 released on eBay.Actually, are any other of those release / cue comparison spreadsheets for other scores, especially the prequels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 A huge omission exclusive to the original album from the actual film score is the film version of The Departure AKA Saying Goodbye AKA Adventure on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 The OST is all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 All the missing music sucks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 The OST is all you need.1996 or 2002? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 The OST is all you need.1996 or 2002?Basically, you need all the albums, but the OST is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 The OST is all you need. 1996 or 2002?The 1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I agree. The popular album, the one that is certified Gold in USA, is the 1982 one. The album's mainly featuring concert arrangements based on the film's music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 It contains NO re-recordings. Everything on that album was recorded with the same orchestra that did the film score, at the same time as all the film cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I didn't know that they recorded the suites for the album on the same sessions.Corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I don't really understand what you are trying to sayThe album contains actual film scores and some concert arrangements and alternates - just like every single other JW OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Look, I don't understand your Excel sheet either.You put on the same lines different recordings that don't have the same lenght. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Then I'm sure you are misinterpreting the spread sheet. Jason is normally quite thorough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For "8m2 Michael's Search" AKA "Searching For E.T.", the full original cue is included on the 1996 CD only; In the film itself and 2002 CD, a later-recorded Insert replaces the original openingFor "9m2 Stay With Me" AKA "E.T. Is Dying", the full original version of the cue is included on both the 1996 CD and 2002 CD. Only in the film itself (and therefore laserdisc isolated score) can you hear his later-recorded Insert that replaces the original opening - it's never been released on CD."10m2 E.T. Phones Home" AKA "E.T. Is Alive" is microedited in the film and for some reason on the 2002 CD, but plays in full length on the OST and 1996 CD.The famous "Steven's Fix" Insert for the "ouch" moment in "11m4/12m1 The Departure" AKA "Saying Goodbye" is only heard in the film itself or the original OST. The 1996 and 2002 CD versions contain the original version of the cue without the Insert added. For the End Credits, the full original cue is only heard on the 1996 CD. In the film itself (and therefore laserdisc isolated score) and 2002 CD, a later-recorded Insert replaces the original openingAre those what you're referring to? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Microedits... cool. Anyway, refering to your Excel sheet, on the 1982 album, 5 tracks out of 8, are exclusive to this album.That's the important part to remember, and what makes the charm of this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I agree that the OST is outstanding and needs to be remastered! Its insane that there have been two re-releases of this score and neither contain Flying! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 My playlist is a combo of OST, 1996, 2002 and iso score rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 They need to release a 2 disc set, where Disc 1 contains the complete film score (with all inserts added in), and Disc 2 contains the complete original OST, followed by the original versions of the film cues that had Inserts added on Disc 1.This needs to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'd buy that. Until then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 They need to release a 2 disc set, where Disc 1 contains the complete film score (with all inserts added in), and Disc 2 contains the complete original OST, followed by the original versions of the film cues that had Inserts added on Disc 1.This needs to happen.Well, in this case we can do it ourselves in more or less perfect quality, which is not the case with other incomplete releases we got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the End Credits, the full original cue is only heard on the 1996 CD. In the film itself (and therefore laserdisc isolated score) and 2002 CD, a later-recorded Insert replaces the original openingI suspect the End Credits on the 1996 CD is actually a whole alternate take than the 2002 (which is the revised film version)--there is even a quite notable flub from the trumpets entering after the downbeat in one section (when I'll be at home I'll post the timestamp).As for the 1982 OST, Jason is correct of course: it's not a re-recorded album (like Jaws), but a selection of film cues and concert/album arrangements, recorded in the same set of sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Like the left out concert pieces of HPSSMaybe there's stuff we don't even know about in E.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 E.T. Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the End Credits, the full original cue is only heard on the 1996 CD. In the film itself (and therefore laserdisc isolated score) and 2002 CD, a later-recorded Insert replaces the original openingI suspect the End Credits on the 1996 CD is actually a whole alternate take than the 2002 (which is the revised film version)--there is even a quite notable flub from the trumpets entering after the downbeat in one section (when I'll be at home I'll post the timestamp).Different takes might have been used, but it's the same written sheet music in either version, after the two different openings.Maybe there's stuff we don't even know about in E.T.Nah, we have all the sheet music. Maybe both versions of the Quiet Man stuff were recorded, and maybe one of the earlier opening cues, but that would be it, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 The OST is all you need. 1996 or 2002?The OST is all you need. 1996 or 2002?As Stefan said 1982. The later releases are strictly for the OCD crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the End Credits, the full original cue is only heard on the 1996 CD. In the film itself (and therefore laserdisc isolated score) and 2002 CD, a later-recorded Insert replaces the original openingI suspect the End Credits on the 1996 CD is actually a whole alternate take than the 2002 (which is the revised film version)--there is even a quite notable flub from the trumpets entering after the downbeat in one section (when I'll be at home I'll post the timestamp).Different takes might have been used, but it's the same written sheet music in either version, after the two different openings.Yes, that's what I meant, a different take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Whoa, I've (re)opened a can of worms here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 No worries about that, I always like discussing this kind of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Do you have a similar spreadsheet for the prequels (or a similar type of reference)? I was listening to scores last week and I've forgotten what cues relate to the OST tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Not really; The prequels are such a clusterfuck of information and sources spread out over so many different places it's too big a task for me to handle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Can't you just use the search function? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Boo hoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the prequels I just listen to Eblobulator (Vosk) 's edits. I can't be arsed to make my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I wouldn't want to watch those confounded movies enough times to become that familiar with the missing bits and edits. So Vosk, we salute you. I do the same, even though I don't have room on my iPod for any prequel score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well, in this case we can do it ourselves in more or less perfect quality, which is not the case with other incomplete releases we got I didn't know we had high quality masters of the full score...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well, in this case we can do it ourselves in more or less perfect quality, which is not the case with other incomplete releases we gotI didn't know we had high quality masters of the full score...?We do? Sorry. I couldn't make that sound believable at all.Though I would be happy taking the missing cues digitally rendering them. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well, in this case we can do it ourselves in more or less perfect quality, which is not the case with other incomplete releases we gotI didn't know we had high quality masters of the full score...?We obviously don't, and I don't get why you jumped to that. KM said "more or less perfect quality", which is right - We have everything in lossless, between the three CD releases and the laserdisc isolated score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 But we've still been calling for expanded/remastered releases of both the score and the original album because the old album is rather noisy and the most complete score release sounds horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well if course that would be preferred. I think what KM is trying to say is that a 2CD ET is less important than, say, a 2CD Azkaban or Lost World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I think both the 1996 and the 2002 are a waste, listening-wise (but useful in an archival sense). I sold the 1996 ages ago, but I still have the 2002 as it's part of the big E.T. DVD Gift Box set from 2002.The original MCA album is the ONLY one for me, baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I think both the 1996 and the 2002 are a waste, listening-wise (but useful in an archival sense). I sold the 1996 ages ago, but I still have the 2002 as it's part of the big E.T. DVD Gift Box set from 2002.The original MCA album is the ONLY one for me, baby!You're the last person I'd expect to say any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Illogical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now